Venezuela, WE WON!!!!!

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There won't be any constitutional reform for the moment :dance: :dance:

[pedroh 21]

that's good grats a la gente de venezuela!

share una merengada de lechosa

Edited December 3, 2007 by pedroh

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

umm yeah for the moment.

You don't wag your finger at a mad dog. You put him down.

[camifree 2]

Jajajajaja, gracias Pedroh!!!

I haven't had one of those in a long time, yummy....

I was up until 2 am waiting for the results... it would have been nice, una merengada de lechoza...mmmmh....

[pedroh 21]

Jajajajaja, gracias Pedroh!!!

I haven't had one of those in a long time, yummy....

I was up until 2 am waiting for the results... it would have been nice, una merengada de lechoza...mmmmh....

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

umm yeah for the moment.

You don't wag your finger at a mad dog. You put him down.

[camifree 2]

umm yeah for the moment.

You don't wag your finger at a mad dog. You put him down.

We would probably have done it if it was easy... I'm not saying that this is the end, because he'll still be the king for 5 more years... but it's a little fresh air into our souls since 1998.

[camifree 2]

Chavez puts brave face on defeat

By Will Grant

BBC News, Caracas

Losing at the polls has not been something that President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has experienced since he was voted into office in 1998.

Hugo Chavez holds a copy of the constitution and the proposed reforms

The battle will continue to bring reform, Mr Chavez says

Time and again, in both referendums and presidential elections, his supporters turned out in their droves to grant him a clear victory when opinion polls had predicted a close race or even a loss for the left-wing leader.

But this time, with his plans for a 21st Century socialist revolution laid out in front of the Venezuelan people, he suffered rejection - albeit by the slenderest of margins.

President Chavez's first move was to come on to state television and acknowledge the result. He also appealed for calm, wary perhaps of the violence that had marred the referendum campaigns.

Among the proposals that were rejected was a plan to shorten the working day and lower the voting age from 18 to 16.

There were also plans to alter the extent of the president's control over the military and remove the autonomy of the Venezuelan central bank.

But by far the most controversial measure was a proposal to grant the president the right to stand for re-election indefinitely.

Whether this was the point which caused traditional supporters to vote against the president is not clear.

'For now'

One of the student leaders involved in mobilising the "No" campaign, Francisco Hernandez, told the BBC that the result represented a wider rejection of plans to take Venezuela towards a socialist state.

Supporters of the no campaign celebrate

No campaigners celebrate but what will the opposition's strategy be?

"We believe strongly, those who voted against this constitution, that it would have excluded a large section of this country. The victory was only possible today because Chavistas (supporters of President Chavez) voted against these reforms," he said.

So where does this leave the president's plans?

Hugo Chavez still has almost complete control of the national assembly, has been granted the so-called "enabling law" for the next year, which allows him to pass legislation without recourse to parliament, and his current term runs until 2013.

And, of course, the price of oil, on which much of Venezuela's economy rests, is about $100 a barrel.

Mr Chavez remains steadfastly set on a course to further the reforms he has already put in place, which he and his supporters say have vastly improved the lives of the country's poor.

The referendum has undoubtedly been a blow to his plans.

But in his televised speech, President Chavez said that his plans were only derailed "for now" - in reference to the famous quote he made after leading a failed coup attempt in 1992.

"To me this is not a defeat," Mr Chavez said.

He would continue the battle to establish socialism in Venezuela, he said, and his proposals to reform the constitution remained "alive".

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He can go to hell...

[Nessa 23]

CONGRATULATIONS!

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Obrigada!!!!! Thank you, Nessa

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

He can go to hell...

Are you posting from Ven?

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

i'm still waiting to see a video of him goosestepping.

[camifree 2]

He can go to hell...

Are you posting from Ven?

No, I'm in Baltimore now.

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

He can go to hell...

Are you posting from Ven?

No, I'm in Baltimore now.

so you're safe for now.

[camifree 2]

i'm still waiting to see a video of him goosestepping.

Check http://globovision.batanga.com or www.globovision.com and look for the clips.