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So the time has come, we just received the oh-so-wonderful NOA2 which means it's time to move forward.

Well, now it is time to face my concerns over the I-134, the affidavit of financial support.

I am a college student, 21. I am, essentially, broke. I used to have a job with a furniture store, but was laid off. I had only worked there for about 5 months as it was. I now have a job with the university, but again, it doesn't pay a whole lot.

I know that you can have co-sponsors if you don't meet the requirements. I've had both of my parents say they can and will sign one to help show their support for my her. Both of my parents make decent money, my father about $50k a year, my mother, roughly $60k. They are divorced, so it's not like we have one household with over $100k a year.

My brother is going to be living with my mother, and I with my father, at least for the time being. So $50k for two people is definitely well above the poverty line.

I am concerned, because, quite frankly, I look rather pathetic as a 'sponsor'. I have next to no money, no good paying job, and absolutely no assets to fall back on save for my truck really, and even that is worth diddly in the grand scheme of things.

Let's say, all three of us fill out one of these things. We have two well-off individuals with a son who's getting married who has little to no money of his own. Will the fact that I am incredibly poor yet have two people willing to put their well-being on the line, with the money to back it up, matter to the embassy?

I mean, I imagine that the government isn't really in the business of going, for example, "Sorry we don't think you're fit to marry because you aren't doing things in a traditional way / you're too young, try again later". My parents have pledged to give her and I a place to stay until we can get out on our own. Both of them on their own have sufficient income to support themselves, myself, and my future wife.

It is not as if I am completely, 100% dependent on my parents. I pay bills, I have responsibilities. I am just not making 5 figures a year because being a full-time student is not compatible with making that kind of money at this point in my life. I am not able to pay my own rent yet, but hope to be able to within a year or two's time. With the help of my fiance, who will bring several thousand dollars into the US, and will be able to work full time, we will be able to get going relatively soon.

So, without any judgment, without any pre-disposed opinions about how young I am or how I may or may not be in the best position to do this.

If my family and I collectively submit 3 I-134's with more than enough income and support between the three of us to support one foreign fiance, will that matter to the government(s)? Will it matter that on my personal I-134, I will have practically nothing to show for myself, with next to nothing in the bank, with a job that I have barely been at, when both of my/her co-sponsors definitely have the assets?

Part of me almost thinks I am worrying too much, but maybe I am not worrying enough either.

We have this all planned out in our minds, and barring some catastrophe, there is no worry that she will become a public charge. I just don't want any government to look at our documents and particularly, me, from afar, and think I am out of my mind and therefore not fit to do what I am doing.

To anyone who actually read through this, and replies without even thinking of trying to impart any parental-like 'wisdom' on me simply because you're actually older than me and have a job, etc, I appreciate it.

Our Immigration Journey!

I-129F

July 27, 2007 - NOA1 Received!!!!!!!!!

July 28, 2007 - Touch

November 28, 2007 - Touch!?

November 28, 2007 - NOA2 Received!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 5, 2007 - Told by NVC that our case has already been forwarded to London!

December 11, 2007 - Packet 3 mailed out by London!

January 08 - Packet 3 lost in the mail, waiting on a new one...

January 14, 2008 - Packet 3 finally received!

March 3, 2008 - Medical Appointment

April 10, 2008 - VISA INTERVIEW!!!!!! - APPROVED!!!!!

April 15, 2008 - Visa in hand!

May 12, 2008 - POE in the US!!!!

June 21, 2008 - Wedding!!!!!!!

I-485

July 30, 2008 - Filed for AOS

August 8, 2008 - NOA's received! (for 485, 765, 131)

August 27th, 2008 - Biometrics Appointment

September 22nd, 2008 - Case transferred to CSC

October 3rd, 2008 - Case at CSC, Touched, Touched again on 7th

October 20, 2008 - AP and EAD Approved!!!

October 27, 2008 - AP and EAD Received!!!

December 19th, and 21st 2008 - Touched

January 26th, 2009 - RFE...

February 27th, 2009 - NOTICE MAILED WELCOMING NEW PERMANENT RESIDENT!!

March 6, 2009 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED!!! LPR STATUS NOW OFFICIAL!!!

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I don't have any experience with this, so this is just my opinion.... But I think that if you have your parents co-sponsor, you'll be fine. When they sign the I-134, they are basically legally binding themselves to supporting the immigrant...

Most VJ'ers are mature enough to not cast judgement on someone just for having low income. That'd be absurd. Besides, I eat ramen every night, and can say that no brand can compare to Maruchan©......

Good luck!

Love timeline:

??? 2003 -------> Started chatting regularly, became good friends

Nov 2004 -------> Fell in love

Jan 2006 -------> Met (in person) for first time

Apr 2008 -------> Wedding

Jun 2008 -------> Closed on house together

K-1 timeline:

Jun 11, 2007 -------> I-129f sent

Mar 20, 2008 -------> Visa in hand

AoS/EAD/AP timeline:

Apr 26, 2008 -------> Wedding

Apr 28, 2008 -------> Filed (forms mailed)

Apr 30, 2008 -------> Forms received by USCIS

May 06, 2008 -------> Cashed check posted to account

May 10, 2008 -------> NOA1 received for EAD, AP, and AoS

May 10, 2008 -------> Biometrics appt date received

May 28, 2008 -------> Biometrics for EAD & AoS

Jun 11, 2008 -------> AoS case transferred to CSC

Jul 05, 2008 -------> AP Approval

Jul 09, 2008 -------> EAD approval

Jul 14, 2008 -------> EAD and AP received

Jul 17, 2008 -------> AoS approved (card production ordered)

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I agree with Jesse. As long as you have your parents for co-sponsors you shouldn't be too concern. I know in some country, like Vietnam they're very strict about accepting co-sponsors. Seeing that you're going through UK Consulate that shouldn't be a problem. You'll be fine.

05/07/2007 : I-129F Sent

05/29/2007 : NOA1

09/28/2007 : NOA2 (144 days from filing date)

11/02/2007 : NVC Received Case (35 days from NOA2)

11/06/2007 : NVC Sent Case to HCM Consulate

11/16/2007 : HCMC Received Case

11/17/2007 : HCMC Sent Packet 3

11/20/2007 : HCMC Received Packet 3

12/10/2007 : HCMC Called Fiancee (Packet 4 Sent + Interview Date)

12/18/2007 : Packet 4 Received

01/02/2008 : Medical Appointment

01/09/2008 : Interview passed!

01/29/2008 : Visa Received

02/02/2008 : POE @ SFO

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The best thing to do around here if someone "prejudges" you is just to ignore it. Someday I'm going to take some of my own advice. :)

The answer to your question is pretty simple. The government cares if you meet the requirements for a co-sponsor. If you exceed the requirements, I don't know that it buys you any extra brownie points. If your co-sponsor meets the qualifications for sponsorship, then you have no problem. I don't know what the rules are on multiple sponsors, you should probably look into it. But it sounds to me like any one of your sponsors will more than meet the requirements, so even if you have to go with just one then it's still not a problem.

Best of luck to you!

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The only reason I feel the need to even try and earn any 'brownie points' is simply because my own credentials are so pathetic.

If it seems like I can really get by with just the one, then I guess I will just go with one.

Our Immigration Journey!

I-129F

July 27, 2007 - NOA1 Received!!!!!!!!!

July 28, 2007 - Touch

November 28, 2007 - Touch!?

November 28, 2007 - NOA2 Received!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 5, 2007 - Told by NVC that our case has already been forwarded to London!

December 11, 2007 - Packet 3 mailed out by London!

January 08 - Packet 3 lost in the mail, waiting on a new one...

January 14, 2008 - Packet 3 finally received!

March 3, 2008 - Medical Appointment

April 10, 2008 - VISA INTERVIEW!!!!!! - APPROVED!!!!!

April 15, 2008 - Visa in hand!

May 12, 2008 - POE in the US!!!!

June 21, 2008 - Wedding!!!!!!!

I-485

July 30, 2008 - Filed for AOS

August 8, 2008 - NOA's received! (for 485, 765, 131)

August 27th, 2008 - Biometrics Appointment

September 22nd, 2008 - Case transferred to CSC

October 3rd, 2008 - Case at CSC, Touched, Touched again on 7th

October 20, 2008 - AP and EAD Approved!!!

October 27, 2008 - AP and EAD Received!!!

December 19th, and 21st 2008 - Touched

January 26th, 2009 - RFE...

February 27th, 2009 - NOTICE MAILED WELCOMING NEW PERMANENT RESIDENT!!

March 6, 2009 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED!!! LPR STATUS NOW OFFICIAL!!!

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The only reason I feel the need to even try and earn any 'brownie points' is simply because my own credentials are so pathetic.

If it seems like I can really get by with just the one, then I guess I will just go with one.

Don't sell yourself short. Your situation is more common than you think. People without incomes fall in love too. (and wow, that was the sappiest thing I've ever said. To a dude, even. *ahem* How about that local sporting event, quite a game huh? :) )

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The only reason I feel the need to even try and earn any 'brownie points' is simply because my own credentials are so pathetic.

If it seems like I can really get by with just the one, then I guess I will just go with one.

Don't sell yourself short. Your situation is more common than you think. People without incomes fall in love too. (and wow, that was the sappiest thing I've ever said. To a dude, even. *ahem* How about that local sporting event, quite a game huh? :) )

Hahahaha :P

I don't know, i just. I have had relatively no reason to obsess over...anything, cause were stuck in VSC hell just waiting for an NOA2.

...Now that we have NOA2, it's time to move forward with real worrying, and here we go.

I kinda wish I could go to the interview and personally explain the situation to the embassy officials, but I guess not huh?

Our Immigration Journey!

I-129F

July 27, 2007 - NOA1 Received!!!!!!!!!

July 28, 2007 - Touch

November 28, 2007 - Touch!?

November 28, 2007 - NOA2 Received!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 5, 2007 - Told by NVC that our case has already been forwarded to London!

December 11, 2007 - Packet 3 mailed out by London!

January 08 - Packet 3 lost in the mail, waiting on a new one...

January 14, 2008 - Packet 3 finally received!

March 3, 2008 - Medical Appointment

April 10, 2008 - VISA INTERVIEW!!!!!! - APPROVED!!!!!

April 15, 2008 - Visa in hand!

May 12, 2008 - POE in the US!!!!

June 21, 2008 - Wedding!!!!!!!

I-485

July 30, 2008 - Filed for AOS

August 8, 2008 - NOA's received! (for 485, 765, 131)

August 27th, 2008 - Biometrics Appointment

September 22nd, 2008 - Case transferred to CSC

October 3rd, 2008 - Case at CSC, Touched, Touched again on 7th

October 20, 2008 - AP and EAD Approved!!!

October 27, 2008 - AP and EAD Received!!!

December 19th, and 21st 2008 - Touched

January 26th, 2009 - RFE...

February 27th, 2009 - NOTICE MAILED WELCOMING NEW PERMANENT RESIDENT!!

March 6, 2009 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED!!! LPR STATUS NOW OFFICIAL!!!

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Don't worry. You'll be fine.

I was in the same situation -- college student making $8 an hour, living paycheck to paycheck. My dad co-sponsored and nobody batted an eye. The only problem was trying to work with my dad to get all of his required documents in on time. ;)

Good luck!

we met: 07-22-01

engaged: 08-03-06

I-129 sent: 01-07-07

NOA2 approved: 04-02-07

packet 3 sent: 05-31-07

interview date: 06-25-07 - approved!

marriage: 07-23-07

AOS sent: 08-10-07

AOS/EAD/AP NOA1: 09-14-07

AOS approved: 11-19-07

green card received: 11-26-07

lifting of conditions filed: 10-29-09

NOA received: 11-09-09

lifting of conditions approved: 12-11-09

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Don't worry. You'll be fine.

I was in the same situation -- college student making $8 an hour, living paycheck to paycheck. My dad co-sponsored and nobody batted an eye. The only problem was trying to work with my dad to get all of his required documents in on time. ;)

Good luck!

How long had you had that job? Like I said, I had one for 5 months, got laid off, and have been with the university a whopping month if that.

Should I fill out another one saying I had a better job and lost it involuntarily? Or just the one is enough?

Our Immigration Journey!

I-129F

July 27, 2007 - NOA1 Received!!!!!!!!!

July 28, 2007 - Touch

November 28, 2007 - Touch!?

November 28, 2007 - NOA2 Received!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 5, 2007 - Told by NVC that our case has already been forwarded to London!

December 11, 2007 - Packet 3 mailed out by London!

January 08 - Packet 3 lost in the mail, waiting on a new one...

January 14, 2008 - Packet 3 finally received!

March 3, 2008 - Medical Appointment

April 10, 2008 - VISA INTERVIEW!!!!!! - APPROVED!!!!!

April 15, 2008 - Visa in hand!

May 12, 2008 - POE in the US!!!!

June 21, 2008 - Wedding!!!!!!!

I-485

July 30, 2008 - Filed for AOS

August 8, 2008 - NOA's received! (for 485, 765, 131)

August 27th, 2008 - Biometrics Appointment

September 22nd, 2008 - Case transferred to CSC

October 3rd, 2008 - Case at CSC, Touched, Touched again on 7th

October 20, 2008 - AP and EAD Approved!!!

October 27, 2008 - AP and EAD Received!!!

December 19th, and 21st 2008 - Touched

January 26th, 2009 - RFE...

February 27th, 2009 - NOTICE MAILED WELCOMING NEW PERMANENT RESIDENT!!

March 6, 2009 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED!!! LPR STATUS NOW OFFICIAL!!!

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thejoz, please don't worry yourself about this. I am speaking from experience here... I'm the foreign fiancée and we have a co-sponsor for our case. My interview is in 2 weeks' time so I'll be able to let you know how it goes soon! My USC fiance doesn't meet the guidelines because he's on SSI as he has terrible back pain. I know he finds it terribly hard, wishing that he was in a better position to support me/us... but as mox said, people without income also fall in love! I totally get what it feels like to know you have to go the co-sponsor route, and all the negative feelings associated with that. But really, the US gov just wants to know that you're not going to become a public charge. As long as your co-sponsor meets the guidelines then they'll be ok. The only person giving you a hard time about your situation is... you. No need, my friend!

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(Full timeline in profile)

25th May 07 - Sent I-129F to TSC

17th December 07 - Interview- APPROVED! :)

17th May 08 - Got married!!!!! :)

18th June 08 - Mailed AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago lockbox

3rd October 08 - Green card in hand!!

26th August 10 - Sent I-751 to VSC

31st August 10 - NOA1 from VSC

10th January 11 - I-751 approved!

14th January 11 - 10-year green card in hand!!

22nd April 23 - N400 submitted online; NOA available in USCIS account immediately
6th November 23 - Interview; approval same day
28th November 23 - Oath ceremony scheduled

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If you don't have a job, and have a cosponsor, why worry about it? I-134 isn't a legally binding document anyway, and the London embassy (which it looks like you'll be going through? Not sure?) generally accepts co-sponsors. If you didn't have a cosponsor, then I would worry.

At AOS, when you do the I-864, that IS a legally binding document and if you made no money but had a joint sponsor, you'll be fine there too. (I was fine, there.)

I mean, really, there's nothing to worry about.

And the 50K has to cover three people, not two, if you're completely dependent on your parents and you live with the parent, as far as I know. You'll be fine though :)

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this is the way the world ends

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[ts eliot]

aos timeline:

married: jan 5, 2007

noa 1: march 2nd, 2007

interview @ tampa, fl office: april 26, 2007

green card received: may 5, 2007

removal of conditions timeline:

03/26/2009 - received in VSC

07/20/2009 - card production ordered!

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I as well encourage you to stop worrying. My now-wife was a college student and had less than a grand in her bank account, no job, and nearly a hundred grand in outstanding student loans when she applied. Likewise, I'd just graduated from college and had no job of money. My widowed mother-in-law, who makes 60k a year, signed the affidavit and we were fine, no questions asked. Further along the process, we still are fine with the updated affidavit my mother-in-law signed for the green card application.

Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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As long as you have a sponsor and they have their precious Affidavit of Support, you'll be fine.

K-1 & I-601 Waiver Timeline 4/7/06 to 9/12/07

4/7/06: I-129 K-1 Application mailed

4/20/06: NOA Receipt

6/23/06: Req for Evidence

8/31/06: NOA

9/28/06: NOA- NVC rcvd I-129

10/12 & 11/9: Rcvd CDJ Ltr- processing Visa

12/6/06: CDJ Interview - Denied - I-601 Waiver Required

12/18/06: I-601 filed

8/6/07: Waiver Approval

8/22/07: Waiver Approval letter received

9/4/07: Open Appointment Letter Rcvd (postmarked 8/31/07 from Texas)

9/9/07: Arrive in CDJ for Open Appt

9/10/07: Open Appointment

9/12/07: RECEIVED K-1 VISA!

AOS - 10/8/07 to 11/21/07

9/14/07: Entered the United States

9/21/07: Happliy Married!

10/6/07: AOS Packet Mailed to Chicago Lockbox!

10/8/07: Return Receipt stamped received by USCIS

10/19/07: NOA Receipt for AOS & EAD received

10/24/07: Case Online at USCIS.gov

10/25/07: Touched

11/3/07: Biometrics Appointment

11/5/07: Touched

11/14/07: Appointment Letter received

11/16/07: EAD Production ordered.

11/21/07: AOS Interview - Approved - Hubby is Legal Permanent Resident (Conditional)

11/23/07: Registered Customer's new permanent resident status (Online Case Status)

11/25/07: Touched - Production of EAD ordered (Online Case Status)

11/26/07: On November 26, 2007, we ordered production of your new card (Green Card).

11/28/07: Received EAD Card!

11/30/07: Received Welcome to the U.S. Letter

12/1/07: Received GREEN CARD!

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You still have to fill out the I-134 (as the fiance, you're the primary sponsor), but you can have a co-sponsor to help you meet the income threshold. Your situation isn't uncommon; lots of people meet while students and broke.

AOS

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Filed: 8/1/07

NOA1:9/7/07

Biometrics: 9/28/07

EAD/AP: 10/17/07

EAD card ordered again (who knows, maybe we got the two-fer deal): 10/23/-7

Transferred to CSC: 10/26/07

Approved: 11/21/07

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