Missouri State removes Christmas tree over religious complaint

[GaryC 7]

“This is not about a legal issues. It’s about being more inclusive,” Craig said.

Bullsh!t. This isn't inclusive, it's excluding people that celebrate Christmas.

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“This is not about a legal issues. It’s about being more inclusive,” Craig said.

Bullsh!t. This isn't inclusive, it's excluding people that celebrate Christmas.

Exclude them from what?

People that celebrate Christmas are free to do so on non-public property. No one is excluding them from anything.

[GaryC 7]

“This is not about a legal issues. It’s about being more inclusive,” Craig said.

Bullsh!t. This isn't inclusive, it's excluding people that celebrate Christmas.

Exclude them from what?

People that celebrate Christmas are free to do so on non-public property. No one is excluding them from anything.

Where is it written that we can't celebrate on public property? The separation of church and state only means the government cant mandate a religion.

Edited November 29, 2007 by GaryC

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Personally I think the whole thing is ridiculous – firstly making a hoo-ha over a tree, and secondly magnifying the ridiculousness by giving undue prominence to it in the news – and indeed using this sort of thing to make all sorts of silly arguments about PC society.

Its all very petty IMO.

[GaryC 7]

For 200+ years we were allowed to display religious symbols on government property without complaint. Did someone re-write the constitution to suddenly make it illegal? No, we have activist judges that are making law from the bench to make it that way.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This case seems to have nothing to do with the courts, but rather an in-house complaint by members of the faculty.

Its stupid, I agree - but I also think too much time is wasted on worrying about the presentation of things. In the end it makes no difference to anything.

[Ban Hammer 13,347]

For 200+ years we were allowed to display religious symbols on government property without complaint. Did someone re-write the constitution to suddenly make it illegal? No, we have activist judges that are making law from the bench to make it that way.

they better start recalling all that money too....

[Queen Jenn 0]

“This is not about a legal issues. It’s about being more inclusive,” Craig said.

Bullsh!t. This isn't inclusive, it's excluding people that celebrate Christmas.

Exclude them from what?

People that celebrate Christmas are free to do so on non-public property. No one is excluding them from anything.

Where is it written that we can't celebrate on public property? The separation of church and state only means the government cant mandate a religion.

My sentiments exactly. The separation of church and state DOES NOT mean that you can't celebrate on public property. If that were true, there would be no public concerts of any kind that had to do with anything religious. There would be NO DECORATIONS on the main streets of the city.

And instead of complaining about the Christmas Tree, why not just put up some Hanukkah decorations, too?

[GaryC 7]

For 200+ years we were allowed to display religious symbols on government property without complaint. Did someone re-write the constitution to suddenly make it illegal? No, we have activist judges that are making law from the bench to make it that way.

they better start recalling all that money too....

I guess we need to repeal the Declaration of Independence also.

The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies

Presented by the Indiana University School of Law—Bloomington

The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies

In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

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“This is not about a legal issues. It’s about being more inclusive,” Craig said.

Bullsh!t. This isn't inclusive, it's excluding people that celebrate Christmas.

Exclude them from what?

People that celebrate Christmas are free to do so on non-public property. No one is excluding them from anything.

Where is it written that we can't celebrate on public property? The separation of church and state only means the government cant mandate a religion.

off topic slighhtly but,...

I believe the seperation of church and state is called "Antidisestablishmentarianism".

Also the longest word in the English language, that is not a scientific name, or chemical ingredient, or medical condition!!

Jodee

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From the University's website:

Tree in Strong Hall to be put back on display

Date: November 29, 2007

Contact: University Communications

(417) 836-6397

The decision has been made to put the Christmas tree in Strong Hall at Missouri State University back on display, along with other holiday symbols in that building. As a result, the meeting originally scheduled for Friday afternoon (Nov. 30) to discuss the situation has been canceled.

“We decided this is the right thing to do, and I am glad there was widespread agreement about it,” said President Michael T. Nietzel. “Missouri State is an institution at which many different religions are represented, and we try to be sensitive to the many views people hold. After having had a chance to air this out a bit more and consider the various perspectives of our campus community, I am happy that the Christmas tree will be back up along with the many others that were already on campus. I hope we can have it on display before the end of the day.”

http://www.news.missouristate.edu/releases/46462.htm

[almaty 19]

f##k missouri

[Sister Fracas 5]

Happy Yule!

[almaty 19]

Happy Yule!

thanks sister fracas..a vocie of wisdom and good holiday cheer

[Mephys 2]

HOly cow are they gonna make everybody and all the stores put their christmas tree down so they can go visit or shopping ?

It's a F***ING TREE!!!!!

Why don't they go put all the forests down while they are at it.....