question about my situation, please help

[ratareina 0]

im exhausted reading whatever i can find to learn how to do this fiance visa thing. i understand the process for the most part, but am wondering if there are any problems with my situation, heres the situation:

my fiance is Turkish male, currently living in Turkey. we are not planning to have a wedding. the purpose of bringing him over here on a fiance visa is so that my family can meet him before we marry. this means theres no specific date or wedding arrangements for my fiance to tell at the visa interview.

He's 23, has no job, and is not a student. If my money's not enough for the affadavit of support, my dad will fill out the papers to give financial support. can my fiance's unemployment or our lack of wedding plans cause trouble for us? we meet the other requirements, but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa, we're paranoid about this whole process, and i want to be ready for potential problems caused by our situation.

any help is extreeeeemely appreciated

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

Hi and welcome

To answer your question, it doesn't matter about what your fiance makes, you are petitioning for him so your income and support of him is what is key.

All you can do is file, provide as much proof as you can of having met in the past 2 years and be honest about any previous denials. Remember, that once he enters the states you must get married within 90 days, there are no extensions.

It's okay that you don't have a wedding date set, all that matters is that you get married within the 90 days.

Best of luck to you and your fiance!

~L

Edited November 27, 2007 by ~Laura and Nick~

[Jesse and Hema 2]

If your fiancee gets a K-1 visa, it is only good for entering the USA once, he needs to be married to you within 90 days.

What you want is a B-2 visitor visa. Meeting the family of an American fiancee is a legitimate reason for visiting the US. Just make sure he can demonstrate his ties to Turkey so he can show intent to return to Turkey when his visit is over.

I'd suggest stopping and taking your time researching the visa process so you can make knowledgeable decisions.

Cheers!

[mox 298]

The requirements for a K-1 visa are:

- That you have met your fiance within the last 2 years.

- That you intend to marry within 90 days of entry.

His income/lack of a job has no bearing. You need to decide, however, if you meet the intention to marry criteria.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

The lack of plans per se is not a problem I think, but you should be aware that a fiance visa is to get married within US soil, and you have 90 days to do it once he arrives.

Your fiance's lack of income does not really matter, since you are the one who needs to prove financial solvency (or with your parents' as joint sponsors) above poverty guidelines.

Good luck, L.

[Jesse and Hema 2]

If your fiancee gets a K-1 visa, it is only good for entering the USA once, he needs to be married to you within 90 days.

What you want is a B-2 visitor visa. Meeting the family of an American fiancee is a legitimate reason for visiting the US. Just make sure he can demonstrate his ties to Turkey so he can show intent to return to Turkey when his visit is over.

I'd suggest stopping and taking your time researching the visa process so you can make knowledgeable decisions.

Cheers!

I guess I was assuming that you weren't planning on getting married on the K-1... If that's the case, you still need a B-2 visa... and we'll need information about why he was denied.

As for the K-1, I "ditto" Laura and Nick's statements.

Good luck!

[Dakine 26]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

[ratareina 0]

yes, thats right, he was denied very quickly because he couldnt show strong ties to his country. that was a year ago, at that time, we hadnt even met in person yet, so we werent ready to marry yet. now, i have had two 3-month long trips to Turkey to spend time with him, and we want to marry and are just trying to figure out a way to be together.

for the visitor's visa, the lady was rude and harsh and didn't give my fiance a chance. she basically saw the situation, made a judgment, and turned it down, and said unless theres a huge change in his life, he shouldnt come back to try again. i dont say that she was wrong, i see now that he needed stronger ties to Turkey, but anyway, it worried me that with the fiance visa, he would go to the interview, and the interviewer would see that he doesnt have a job, and that i dont make much money, and that we dont have specific wedding plans, and get suspicious and turn him down. i especially worry because hes the guy, so it may look extra suspicious when a middle eastern guy says he wants to get married to an american girl but cant support her.

if he was denied at the interview, can he schedule another interview? we dont have to start the whole process all over do we? and if the petition is denied, do i have to pay the $500 fee again when i send what is asked for?

again, thanks for the help

[pushbrk 12,824]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

That would be part of it but an unemployed young Turkish male is not going to get a tourist visa to the USA until Turkey is no longer in the middle east, or some other miracle. Pretty much the same is true for a single Chinese woman or Filipina, employed or not.

K1 is a fiance visa. Wedding intentions are required, not wedding plans. K1 couples are not advised to make firm wedding plans because there is no way to know when the visa will be issued. After the visa is issued, if they want a big wedding that takes a long time to plan, they have as long as 9 months to accomplish it. (6 months to use the visa and 3 months to marry)

If meeting the parents needs to precede the engagement, then the parents will need to visit Turkey.

[rebeccajo 14]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

That would be part of it but an unemployed young Turkish male is not going to get a tourist visa to the USA until Turkey is no longer in the middle east, or some other miracle. Pretty much the same is true for a single Chinese woman or Filipina, employed or not.

K1 is a fiance visa. Wedding intentions are required, not wedding plans. K1 couples are not advised to make firm wedding plans because there is no way to know when the visa will be issued. After the visa is issued, if they want a big wedding that takes a long time to plan, they have as long as 9 months to accomplish it. (6 months to use the visa and 3 months to marry)

If meeting the parents needs to precede the engagement, then the parents will need to visit Turkey.

Is that in the INA?

I think the OP has intentions to marry. She stated so above - they want to marry.

Edited November 27, 2007 by rebeccajo

[pushbrk 12,824]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

That would be part of it but an unemployed young Turkish male is not going to get a tourist visa to the USA until Turkey is no longer in the middle east, or some other miracle. Pretty much the same is true for a single Chinese woman or Filipina, employed or not.

K1 is a fiance visa. Wedding intentions are required, not wedding plans. K1 couples are not advised to make firm wedding plans because there is no way to know when the visa will be issued. After the visa is issued, if they want a big wedding that takes a long time to plan, they have as long as 9 months to accomplish it. (6 months to use the visa and 3 months to marry)

If meeting the parents needs to precede the engagement, then the parents will need to visit Turkey.

Is that in the INA?

I think the OP has intentions to marry. She stated so above - they want to marry.

The OP can speak for herself. I see she's referring to him as fiance but it's not clear to me a decision has been made to marry, that is not contingent on parents. Hence the "if" and "precede" in my final sentence.

If the circumstances otherwise qualify for a fiance visa, those letters of intent need to be about marriage, not about meeting the parents. It sounds to me like the recent tourist visa application was to meet parents prior to a decision to marry. If the intentions have changed, so be it.

[rebeccajo 14]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

That would be part of it but an unemployed young Turkish male is not going to get a tourist visa to the USA until Turkey is no longer in the middle east, or some other miracle. Pretty much the same is true for a single Chinese woman or Filipina, employed or not.

K1 is a fiance visa. Wedding intentions are required, not wedding plans. K1 couples are not advised to make firm wedding plans because there is no way to know when the visa will be issued. After the visa is issued, if they want a big wedding that takes a long time to plan, they have as long as 9 months to accomplish it. (6 months to use the visa and 3 months to marry)

If meeting the parents needs to precede the engagement, then the parents will need to visit Turkey.

Is that in the INA?

I think the OP has intentions to marry. She stated so above - they want to marry.

The OP can speak for herself. I see she's referring to him as fiance but it's not clear to me a decision has been made to marry, that is not contingent on parents. Hence the "if" and "precede" in my final sentence.

If the circumstances otherwise qualify for a fiance visa, those letters of intent need to be about marriage, not about meeting the parents. It sounds to me like the recent tourist visa application was to meet parents prior to a decision to marry. If the intentions have changed, so be it.

It doesn't matter what is clear to us. What matters is if they are both free to marry, have met in the last two years, and have intent to marry.

I can have intent to get out of bed in the morning and go to work. But if I get hit by a bus on the way, that could spoil my intentions.

The OP may desire for her family to meet and approve of her fiance before they marry. As you state, she can speak for herself. Nowhere did I see her state that her family's opinion would influence her intent.

[pushbrk 12,824]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

That would be part of it but an unemployed young Turkish male is not going to get a tourist visa to the USA until Turkey is no longer in the middle east, or some other miracle. Pretty much the same is true for a single Chinese woman or Filipina, employed or not.

K1 is a fiance visa. Wedding intentions are required, not wedding plans. K1 couples are not advised to make firm wedding plans because there is no way to know when the visa will be issued. After the visa is issued, if they want a big wedding that takes a long time to plan, they have as long as 9 months to accomplish it. (6 months to use the visa and 3 months to marry)

If meeting the parents needs to precede the engagement, then the parents will need to visit Turkey.

Is that in the INA?

I think the OP has intentions to marry. She stated so above - they want to marry.

The OP can speak for herself. I see she's referring to him as fiance but it's not clear to me a decision has been made to marry, that is not contingent on parents. Hence the "if" and "precede" in my final sentence.

If the circumstances otherwise qualify for a fiance visa, those letters of intent need to be about marriage, not about meeting the parents. It sounds to me like the recent tourist visa application was to meet parents prior to a decision to marry. If the intentions have changed, so be it.

It doesn't matter what is clear to us. What matters is if they are both free to marry, have met in the last two years, and have intent to marry.

I can have intent to get out of bed in the morning and go to work. But if I get hit by a bus on the way, that could spoil my intentions.

The OP may desire for her family to meet and approve of her fiance before they marry. As you state, she can speak for herself. Nowhere did I see her state that her family's opinion would influence her intent.

She didn't say either way. You and I read her meaning differently. Again, she can speak for herself to remove the "ifs".

[rebeccajo 14]

but after a harsh denial for a visitor's visa,

Lot of what's to come depends on WHY?

Probably because he couldn't show strong ties to his country to prove he was returning back home.

That would be part of it but an unemployed young Turkish male is not going to get a tourist visa to the USA until Turkey is no longer in the middle east, or some other miracle. Pretty much the same is true for a single Chinese woman or Filipina, employed or not.

K1 is a fiance visa. Wedding intentions are required, not wedding plans. K1 couples are not advised to make firm wedding plans because there is no way to know when the visa will be issued. After the visa is issued, if they want a big wedding that takes a long time to plan, they have as long as 9 months to accomplish it. (6 months to use the visa and 3 months to marry)

If meeting the parents needs to precede the engagement, then the parents will need to visit Turkey.

Is that in the INA?

I think the OP has intentions to marry. She stated so above - they want to marry.

The OP can speak for herself. I see she's referring to him as fiance but it's not clear to me a decision has been made to marry, that is not contingent on parents. Hence the "if" and "precede" in my final sentence.

If the circumstances otherwise qualify for a fiance visa, those letters of intent need to be about marriage, not about meeting the parents. It sounds to me like the recent tourist visa application was to meet parents prior to a decision to marry. If the intentions have changed, so be it.

It doesn't matter what is clear to us. What matters is if they are both free to marry, have met in the last two years, and have intent to marry.

I can have intent to get out of bed in the morning and go to work. But if I get hit by a bus on the way, that could spoil my intentions.

The OP may desire for her family to meet and approve of her fiance before they marry. As you state, she can speak for herself. Nowhere did I see her state that her family's opinion would influence her intent.

She didn't say either way. You and I read her meaning differently. Again, she can speak for herself to remove the "ifs".

That doesn't remove the extant point that it isn't in the INA that the parents must meet the fiance.