Applicants using the I-134 will need to show that their sponsor's income is 100% of federal poverty guideline

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Applicants using the I-134 will need to show that their sponsor's income is 100% of federal poverty guideline

http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/immigrant...fo_3182.html#k1

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Depends on consulate, Guangzhou China will deny visas if income is below 125%.

Has to do if the consular officer feels the prospective immigrant may become a charge of the state.

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Depends on consulate, Guangzhou China will deny visas if income is below 125%.

Has to do if the consular officer feels the prospective immigrant may become a charge of the state.

hope to hear opinions

[rebeccajo 14]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Edited November 28, 2007 by rebeccajo

[pushbrk 12,893]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

[rebeccajo 14]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

[pushbrk 12,893]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

My experience is as stated. If yours is different, please give an example.

[rebeccajo 14]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

My experience is as stated. If yours is different, please give an example.

London?

[pushbrk 12,893]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

My experience is as stated. If yours is different, please give an example.

London?

The rare exception is the reason I chose the wording "more commonly" over the more absolute "is".

[payxibka 10,045]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

My experience is as stated. If yours is different, please give an example.

London?

The rare exception is the reason I chose the wording "more commonly" over the more absolute "is".

Le's take a poll... I will add Kiev to the 100% list...

125% - Guangzhou

100% - London, Kiev

Anyone else can chime in please do...

[rebeccajo 14]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

My experience is as stated. If yours is different, please give an example.

London?

The rare exception is the reason I chose the wording "more commonly" over the more absolute "is".

You'd have to include all of western Europe, Canada, and Australia (among others) in your 'rare exceptions' then.

[pushbrk 12,893]

This isn't new information, but it's good you are looking around and researching.

If one reads the instructions for the I134, the only qualifier is 'sufficient' income. There is no mention of the US poverty guidelines at all, let alone a percentage.

Most consulates will follow the guidance you have cited. Others will not. Each will vary in what they like as proof of whatever their 'sufficient' level is.

Yes, and for visas that will result in immigration through status adjustment, the level considered "sufficient" is more commonly at least 125% of the applicable poverty level for the petitioner's State of residence. This is because the applicant will eventually need an I-864 from a qualified sponsor.

You want opinions but you don't ask a question. ??

I don't think you can say that quantitively, pushbrk. The guidance from DOS to the consulates is 100%.

My experience is as stated. If yours is different, please give an example.

London?

The rare exception is the reason I chose the wording "more commonly" over the more absolute "is".

You'd have to include all of western Europe, Canada, and Australia (among others) in your 'rare exceptions' then.

A little more concrete evidence please. I accept that London may well be the most lenient in this regard but there are still the totality of circumstances to consider. Are you telling me (and please excuse the generalizations used for brevity) a cronically unemployed Englishman is likely to be successfully sponsored by his 27 year old USC fiance who is a high school drop-out working for minimum wage at a fast food joint? Substitute any country in your list. Would they be equally as successful as say two recent college graduates with a marginal joint sponsor?

Can you actually cite examples of successful visa applications where the sponsor met only the 100% level?

[rebeccajo 14]

Me.

[pushbrk 12,893]

Me.

Did your circumstance more closely match example one or two I used above? I used the words "more commonly" and "totality of circumstances" for very important reasons so please keep that in mind as you respond.

Further, the list of second and third world countries plus some arguably first world countries that would fit my "more commonly" statement is far longer than the list of mostle "Western" countries you cited. I wonder on which side of the list Mexico would fall.

[rebeccajo 14]

Pushbrk, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with this little exercise, but I'll play.

Firstly, since you do cite totality of circumstance, I don't think it matters if my personal situation fit either of your two examples. Every couple is going to have a different 'totality'. To attempt to pigeon-hole cases into categories such as college grads, high school dropouts, etc. is really quite pointless as 'totality' takes far more into consideration than just financial means.

Western Europe, Canada, Australia and consulates in other developed nations have a lower emphasis on the affidavit of support for a good reason - that being a lower leval of visa fraud. And insofar as your list of second and third world countries, I would suggest that while that may be a longer list of nations, it's not a longer list of where immigrants actually come from. Keep in mind much of the immigration from less developed nations is actually employment based, wherein the US sucks the cream of the crop from those nations. There may be more K1's issued from the Fils than other other country, but overall that country is not the largest 'importer' of citizens to the US.

But I digress. I know of no 'list' of consulates that stretch the limits of the I134 to fit the criteria of the I864. I would contend any deviation from the 100% directive issued by DOS has more to do with an individual case rather than the country of the beneficiary. New Delhi, for example, is well known for pulling the affidavit of support apart when there is a question in the AO's mind about the case, but no other place to hang their hat for a denial.

I truly don't believe there is a heavier emphasis of 125% for 'petitions that end in adjustment of status' and I would challenge you to prove that to me, since it flies in the face of a directive from the Department of State. There ARE consulate practices based upon management directives in any particular consulate, and those directives are based upon a knowledge of social norms and habits. Some may require 125% - but it's my belief from my anecdotal reading this has more to do with visa fraud than it has to do with the potential for adjustment of status.

In other words, every consulate is different. Petitioners and beneficiaries need to research the RECENT experiences of others traveling through the same consulate, and they need to bear in mind the 'totality' of their particular circumstances.