Tips

[Nessa 23]

Interesting. I've decided i'll tip my tattoo artist 50.

Just a note Nessa.. when I had mine done i put down a 25$ fee which was refundable for the artwork proof. I was told I would get the refund when I got the tattoo back and presented a little deposit card.

I forgot about it and so when I settled with the artist - it somehow got factored into the tip (it was more my error than anything).. I forgot to take it off the amount of the tattoo and actually gave him an amazing tip!! Just wanted to give you the heads up to not forget about the deposit if you do have to put one down and factor that into the amount you give the artist..

I didn't have to put down a deposit. He makes 100/hour (not bad, eh?) So it was 2.5 hours first time and this Sat I'll finish, it'll probably be another 2 hours. So I already paid 250 (no tips, never occured to me that people tip their tattoo artist, we don't tip almost anyone in Brazil, tips are almost always included in the bill) and he told me to bring another 200, but I'll bring 250 to tip him.

Pictures i wanna see pictures!! Sounds like it's a big piece!!! LOVE IT!

after it's done

[Traviesa 0]

But the big bottom line for me is that I refuse to let anyone act as if any amount of tip is "entitled to". They are working in a service delivery profession - its the quality of the service that I am tipping for. If the service is non existent or bad, I have no problem to not tip at all.

Exactly. There's simply no entitlement on tips. I've read over and over in this thread that people "tip only 10%" in a restaurant if the service was bad. Not me. I sure as hell won't leave a tip that wasn't earned. It will create the impression with the server that this sort of non-service is something acceptable or that he/she did an alright job. It isn't and (s)he didn't...

Having worked in a restaurant for tips before (it was Applebees) I was stiffed plenty of times when I thought I did a pretty decent job. The thing is, when you go to a place like that you get what you pay for-you get your drink, you get your meal, you get some refills, then you get the check and get out of there. It's not exactly the kind of place where a server feels the need to wow you to death for the tip that will come off the $30 check. A place like that fills a basic need-to sit down and have a meal. The server facilitates that for you. If you have, in fact, had your drinks and your meal, the server has done their job and deserves that tip. If over-the-top service is what you're looking for, you might want to consider changing your choice of dining establishments. Sorry, but Applebees and customers didn't pay me enough to sing you a song, engage you in witty conversation, and make sure your glass never gets lower than half empty.

This is an interesting point of view however I have to agree here with Big Dog on some points. When I go to a restaurant I'm not looking to have my server sing me a song or talk to me about the latest news reports. However taking my order in a timely manner, bringing food/drinks in a timely manner while they are still hot are things that are important and thats more so what I judge my tips on. I don't really care if a server doesn't want to be witty and charming, but let me tell you, if you are working in a "service industry" that charm goes a long way.

I recently went to Outback and the server we had was more than wonderful. On top of the very generous tip I left him, I let every manager at the restaruant know what a great job he did and I even sent an email to corporate acknowledging him.

I know that maybe you don't feel that applebee's pays you enough to do this but is it really applebee's that pays your wages? Tipping has come to be expected and this is wrong. IMO I will not tip the same to server that just barly gets the job the done or sometimes doesn't get the job done at all in comparison to the one I had at the Outback the other night.

While I agree that tipping is important, I dont like that fact that it is expected. What's next? Adding it to the bill?

That's laughable. Do you think that a restaurant that builds it's business on your "service" model will stand a chance of making it in this day and age? I don't.

Speaking of the devil....it's funny how the restaurant business has built this business model where the american public is expected to compensate the entire restaurant staff with tipping. Why can't they just pay them more freaking money!!!!

What you are talking about is what I was referring to. Giving you your drinks and food. It was assumed that it's done in a timely manner. Is that all it takes to be considered "good" service? Because from what I learned in the many years I worked in the service industry, that's sort of the expected and what qualifies as "good" would go above and beyond that.

Also, it's not exactly "my" service model. In Cost Accounting we learned about this. The basic idea of a restaurant is the food. Anything else is considered a value-added service.

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life). This includes anyone from dog walkers to servers to the person who delivers your pizza. But you're not compensating the "entire" restaurant staff. Food prep people are paid at least minimum wage and do not receive tips, same with managers. But at the Applebees when I worked there we had to "tip out" a certain percentage to the hostess and bartender (and some places the busboy, but we didn't have any).

[Ban Hammer 13,651]

What you are talking about is what I was referring to. Giving you your drinks and food. It was assumed that it's done in a timely manner. Is that all it takes to be considered "good" service? Because from what I learned in the many years I worked in the service industry, that's sort of the expected and what qualifies as "good" would go above and beyond that.

Also, it's not exactly "my" service model. In Cost Accounting we learned about this. The basic idea of a restaurant is the food. Anything else is considered a value-added service.

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life). This includes anyone from dog walkers to servers to the person who delivers your pizza. But you're not compensating the "entire" restaurant staff. Food prep people are paid at least minimum wage and do not receive tips, same with managers. But at the Applebees when I worked there we had to "tip out" a certain percentage to the hostess and bartender (and some places the busboy, but we didn't have any).

things apparently have changed since i washed dishes at sambo's in the late 70's. i not only washed dishes but cleared tables, i was not tipped by the waitresses, it was my job. one time i did have a waitress try to give me $5 when there was only her, myself, and the manager running the whole place, i didn't accept it. i told her to use that money to buy something for her kid (she was a single parent). i also have to wonder if that "tip out" policy was local or part of the chain's policy.

that applebees requires this of their wait staff does not obligate me to pay more in tips. my rules for tipping start at 15% and go up or down depending on just a few factors. how long my drink stays empty and how much the wait staff is around to check on me. and yes, i do tip 0% if i have to go get my drink refilled because the waiter/waitress is too busy yapping with someone else (which has happened before). this past sunday when nessa and i went to a brazilian restaurant the tip was almost 20% and i felt it was earned on their part.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life).

Hogwash. Are you suggesting that it is expected to tip the folks that change your oil, pick up your trash, sweep the road in front of your house, service your hvac, bag your groceries, the cashier at the store where you could have used the self check-out? Gimme a break already.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life).

Hogwash. Are you suggesting that it is expected to tip the folks that change your oil, pick up your trash, sweep the road in front of your house, service your hvac, bag your groceries, the cashier at the store where you could have used the self check-out? Gimme a break already.

Touche

[Ban Hammer 13,651]

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life).

Hogwash. Are you suggesting that it is expected to tip the folks that change your oil, pick up your trash, sweep the road in front of your house, service your hvac, bag your groceries, the cashier at the store where you could have used the self check-out? Gimme a break already.

Touche

i think all of us should be tipped for answering her.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life).

Hogwash. Are you suggesting that it is expected to tip the folks that change your oil, pick up your trash, sweep the road in front of your house, service your hvac, bag your groceries, the cashier at the store where you could have used the self check-out? Gimme a break already.

Touche

i think all of us should be tipped for answering her.

I was not satisfied with your answer. You get nothing. Begone!

[Nessa 23]

i'd love to be tipped every time i do my hubby's laundry, or wash the dishes he used or vaccuum the carpet he insists in wearing his dirty tennis shoes inside the house after going to do yard work, or bring him soap when he's in the shower and finds out he's out of it, after all, he could've done that all by himself.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

i'd love to be tipped every time i do my hubby's laundry, or wash the dishes he used or vaccuum the carpet he insists in wearing his dirty tennis shoes inside the house after going to do yard work, or bring him soap when he's in the shower and finds out he's out of it, after all, he could've done that all by himself.

You should go on strike.

[Ban Hammer 13,651]

The reason the American public is "expected" to compensate the restaurant staff is because in this country we have a principle of the basic and common etiquette of tipping for a personal service performed (anything you could have done yourself but instead have someone else do it to convenience your life).

Hogwash. Are you suggesting that it is expected to tip the folks that change your oil, pick up your trash, sweep the road in front of your house, service your hvac, bag your groceries, the cashier at the store where you could have used the self check-out? Gimme a break already.

Touche

i think all of us should be tipped for answering her.

I was not satisfied with your answer. You get nothing. Begone!

and here is your tip!

*puts penny in full glass of water, covers with coaster, slides glass onto table without spilling a drop*

i'd love to be tipped every time i do my hubby's laundry, or wash the dishes he used or vaccuum the carpet he insists in wearing his dirty tennis shoes inside the house after going to do yard work, or bring him soap when he's in the shower and finds out he's out of it, after all, he could've done that all by himself.

i got a "tip" for you

[Marilyn. 340]

i'd love to be tipped every time i do my hubby's laundry, or wash the dishes he used or vaccuum the carpet he insists in wearing his dirty tennis shoes inside the house after going to do yard work, or bring him soap when he's in the shower and finds out he's out of it, after all, he could've done that all by himself.

same here

I really don't know how hubby survived without me

[Nessa 23]

maybe I should request a raise. I want more kisses, more I love you's more you are so pretty

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

i'd love to be tipped every time i do my hubby's laundry, or wash the dishes he used or vaccuum the carpet he insists in wearing his dirty tennis shoes inside the house after going to do yard work, or bring him soap when he's in the shower and finds out he's out of it, after all, he could've done that all by himself.

same here

I really don't know how hubby survived without me

Before our wives showed up, we survived.

Now, we're thriving

[Nessa 23]

same here

I really don't know how hubby survived without me

I was telling him the same the other day when he was trying to use the digital cam and asked me to do it. then he couldn't upload the pic sometimes I wonder how he survived before me

[Ban Hammer 13,651]

i'd love to be tipped every time i do my hubby's laundry, or wash the dishes he used or vaccuum the carpet he insists in wearing his dirty tennis shoes inside the house after going to do yard work, or bring him soap when he's in the shower and finds out he's out of it, after all, he could've done that all by himself.

same here

I really don't know how hubby survived without me

no man is complete until he's married. then he's finished.

maybe I should request a raise. I want more kisses, more I love you's more you are so pretty

do i get tipped for that?

same here

I really don't know how hubby survived without me

I was telling him the same the other day when he was trying to use the digital cam and asked me to do it. then he couldn't upload the pic sometimes I wonder how he survived before me

that's cause the camera is much more complex than the one i had before!