Never got a DS-3025, what now?

[jonny 0]

Hi all,

So my wife and I are preparing our AOS paperwork and we are stuck on the immunization part. It seems that over the summer when she had her medical appointment, those oh-so-competent doctors in Ukraine never gave her a copy of the DS 3025 immunization chart. It was apparently sealed in an envelope, which we brought to her interview, then she turned it in at her POE without ever getting a copy of the DS 3025. And in the midst of juggling a million things, neither of us were aware that we'd need it down the line.

So we don't have a DS 3025, we can't go to a civil surgeon and get the i-693a (because we have no proof that she's ever gotten any vaccinations). Her handwritten vaccination record is at her parents house in Ukraine and they can fax us a copy, but I doubt any doctor in the U.S. would accept it, especially because it's in Ukrainian.

Is it possible to get a copy of this from the doctor, USCIS (they should have it in the sealed envelope) or somewhere else? Are the doctors who do the medical exams for the K1 visas required to keep copies of these things? To compound things, she has a job offer and got her EAD at JFK, but it expires in December and there is no way we can file the AOS paperwork and get a new EAD on time. This system is an absolute joke - they don't give you forms you need, you're supposed to know to ask for them, they give out EADs at one airport, and then you're authorized to work for three months and then have to sit out of the workforce until you fill out more forms. Ahhhhh!

I guess we're mostly looking for advice on how to deal with this immunization stuff. We are tempted to just send in the AOS packet without the immunization stuff and wait for the RFE (by which time we'll hopefully get it worked out) just so we can get her EAD process going, assuming not having the i-693 won't affect the EAD process.

We are feeling very overwhelmed by the form numbers, acronyms, and various processes that are all way too slow and make no sense. Any help would be much appreciated.

Edited November 16, 2007 by jonny

[Dakine 26]

Hi all,

So my wife and I are preparing our AOS paperwork and we are stuck on the immunization part. It seems that over the summer when she had her medical appointment, those oh-so-competent doctors in Ukraine never gave her a copy of the DS 3025 immunization chart. It was apparently sealed in an envelope, which we brought to her interview, then she turned it in at her POE without ever getting a copy of the DS 3025. And in the midst of juggling a million things, neither of us were aware that we'd need it down the line.

So we don't have a DS 3025, we can't go to a civil surgeon and get the i-693a (because we have no proof that she's ever gotten any vaccinations). Her handwritten vaccination record is at her parents house in Ukraine and they can fax us a copy, but I doubt any doctor in the U.S. would accept it, especially because it's in Ukrainian.

Is it possible to get a copy of this from the doctor, USCIS (they should have it in the sealed envelope) or somewhere else? Are the doctors who do the medical exams for the K1 visas required to keep copies of these things? To compound things, she has a job offer and got her EAD at JFK, but it expires in December and there is no way we can file the AOS paperwork and get a new EAD on time. This system is an absolute joke - they don't give you forms you need, you're supposed to know to ask for them, they give out EADs at one airport, and then you're authorized to work for three months and then have to sit out of the workforce until you fill out more forms. Ahhhhh!

I guess we're mostly looking for advice on how to deal with this immunization stuff. We are tempted to just send in the AOS packet without the immunization stuff and wait for the RFE (by which time we'll hopefully get it worked out) just so we can get her EAD process going, assuming not having the i-693 won't affect the EAD process.

We are feeling very overwhelmed by the form numbers, acronyms, and various processes that are all way too slow and make no sense. Any help would be much appreciated.

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I-129F Sent : 2007-02-21

I-129F NOA1 : 2007-02-27

I-129F NOA2 : 2007-06-27 <---yeah, we got NOA2 after the consulate received our papers. Strangeness.

NVC Received : 2007-06-07

NVC Left : 2007-06-14

Consulate Received : 2007-06-20

Packet 3 Received : 2007-07-06

OUR UKRAINIAN WEDDING (unoffical, of course): 2007-07-07

Packet 3 Sent : 2007-07-10

Interview Date : 2007-08-13

Visa Received : 2007-08-17

US Entry : 2007-09-14

Signed the marriage papers! : 2007-10-13

Going crazy: 2007-11-16

So we don't have a DS 3025, we can't go to a civil surgeon and get the i-693a (because we have no proof that she's ever gotten any vaccinations). Her handwritten vaccination record is at her parents house in Ukraine and they can fax us a copy, but I doubt any doctor in the U.S. would accept it, especially because it's in Ukrainian.

No problem.

Happens a LOT peeps not having the DS 3025.

Civil surgeon will determine what shots she will need if any.

Get the handwritten report so he'll have something to go by!

[Mags 112]

Could you get her vaccination record in the Ukraine translated? If so the CS should accept that no problem. A DS3025 is not needed as long as you have vaccination records (my son had these and it was more than acceptable). If not, you can arrange for her to have some blood tests to check her antibodies for the required vaccinations.

If she has had certain vaccinations this should show up and she wouldn't need them.

[John & Annie 0]

There have been couple of people recently who did not submit a I-693a.

I suspect some of the CS over seas are filling out the I-693a.

You can choose to take a chance and not submit one. The worst that will happen is that you will get an RFE for it.

[kim&james 0]

She could have a titre test done on her blood to determine which immunisations need to be done. MMR, TD and varicella for age 18 -64.

If she does have Ukraine immunisation record and can have this translated that would work also.

or she can have the shots again.

If she needs shots any Doc can do this and then take that record to a CS for transcribing onto the vaccination supplement.

[jonny 0]

Thanks for everyone's responses. Sometimes this stuff can be so infuriating and it can make you seem so powerless/insignificant. It's great to have you all and a community like visa journey to help through the difficult times. I'll try to find a doctor who won't be a rip off artist (called one today who demanded $200 just for an initial visit to determine what is needed - no immunizations included). Thanks again.