illegal immigrants (another poll)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Approximately 60% of people who replied to this poll are part of the problem.

[natty bumppo 297]

Approximately 60% of people who replied to this poll are part of the problem.

Are you ?

[Jason-Sasha 1]

I cant believe the number of people who just dont care. Crazy. I would absolutely turn every single illegal immigrant over to the authorities. Even the little ones.

[SqdnGuns 21]

I cant believe the number of people who just dont care. Crazy. I would absolutely turn every single illegal immigrant over to the authorities. Even the little ones.

No wonder we have a problem.....................

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Approximately 60% of people who replied to this poll are part of the problem.

Are you ?

Are you?

I don't think reporting random illegals to the authorities who may or may not take action (or take action in a timely manner while the information is 'hot') is a worthwhile use of time.

As mentioned earlier - I agree with Peejay that lobbying government to enforce the employment laws makes more sense.

Edited November 18, 2007 by Number 6

[natty bumppo 297]

Approximately 60% of people who replied to this poll are part of the problem.

Are you ?

Are you?

I don't think reporting random illegals to the authorities who may or may not take action (or take action in a timely manner while the information is 'hot') is a worthwhile use of time.

As mentioned earlier - I agree with Peejay that lobbying government to enforce the employment laws makes more sense.

So ... all show ... someone else needs to take real action.

I'm not part of the problem. I do my part to help enforce the laws in the workplace ... and as mentioned before ... Post Reference

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Approximately 60% of people who replied to this poll are part of the problem.

Are you ?

Are you?

I don't think reporting random illegals to the authorities who may or may not take action (or take action in a timely manner while the information is 'hot') is a worthwhile use of time.

As mentioned earlier - I agree with Peejay that lobbying government to enforce the employment laws makes more sense.

So ... all show ... someone else needs to take real action.

I'm not part of the problem. I do my part to help enforce the laws in the workplace ... and as mentioned before ... Post Reference

How about when a company is not following city code? Or violating OSHA standards? Health code violations? Having employees working off the clock? Job dscrimination? Preventing employees from joining a union by firing the ones who try to organize?

[LaL 418]

Individuals and local governments taking action leads to a type of anarchy. Dev indicated in another thread that because the illegals do not follow our laws, we have anarchy. I actually believe the opposite. Because we have anti-illegal vigilantes, sanctuary cities as well as local & state governments who throw the book at illegals and those who are involved with them, THAT to me is anarchy. In the absence (or perhaps deliberate blind eye turned) of the federal govt providing solution, individuals taking it upon themselves. THAT to me, is dangerous, for reasons I have stated previously in other threads.

Lobby for change, make the government do what it says it is supposed to be doing. Makes you wonder why it was all allowed in the first place. To me, it is obvious the government has not cared enough to solve the problem until the talks recently (and as I stated above, perhaps deliberate).

I certainly am not going to try to do their job. My answer is no.

Edited November 18, 2007 by LaL

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Individuals and local governments taking action leads to a type of anarchy. Dev indicated in another thread that because the illegals do not follow our laws, we have anarchy. I actually believe the opposite. Because we have anti-illegal vigilantes, sanctuary cities as well as local & state governments who throw the book at illegals and those who are involved with them, THAT to me is anarchy. In the absence (or perhaps deliberate blind eye turned) of the federal govt providing solution, individuals taking it upon themselves. THAT to me, is dangerous, for reasons I have stated previously in other threads.

Lobby for change, make the government do what it says it is supposed to be doing. Makes you wonder why it was all allowed in the first place. To me, it is obvious the government has not cared enough to solve the problem until the talks recently (and as I stated above, perhaps deliberate).

I agree, although it isn't because Washington didn't want to do anything about it...we had a comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill, but it was the hardliners who killed the bill. They don't want to make political concessions or compromise....but that is the only way that such a divisive issue such as immigration reform is going to happen. For all this rhetoric about being part of the problem instead of the solution...what they've effectively said is, "You either part of OUR solution, or your the problem." Nice washing of the hands from killing reasonable immigration reform on the federal level.

[LaL 418]

Individuals and local governments taking action leads to a type of anarchy. Dev indicated in another thread that because the illegals do not follow our laws, we have anarchy. I actually believe the opposite. Because we have anti-illegal vigilantes, sanctuary cities as well as local & state governments who throw the book at illegals and those who are involved with them, THAT to me is anarchy. In the absence (or perhaps deliberate blind eye turned) of the federal govt providing solution, individuals taking it upon themselves. THAT to me, is dangerous, for reasons I have stated previously in other threads.

Lobby for change, make the government do what it says it is supposed to be doing. Makes you wonder why it was all allowed in the first place. To me, it is obvious the government has not cared enough to solve the problem until the talks recently (and as I stated above, perhaps deliberate).

I agree, although it isn't because Washington didn't want to do anything about it...we had a comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill, but it was the hardliners who killed the bill. They don't want to make political concessions or compromise....but that is the only way that such a divisive issue such as immigration reform is going to happen. For all this rhetoric about being part of the problem instead of the solution...what they've effectively said is, "You either part of OUR solution, or your the problem." Nice washing of the hands from killing reasonable immigration reform on the federal level.

We went a hell of a long time with Washington doing literally, nothing. That is what I meant when I said they did nothing until recently. Its like Washington woke up one day and said - "oops!! geez - i guess we forgot to follow up since the last amnesty".

But people hate the illegals.

Edited November 18, 2007 by LaL

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Individuals and local governments taking action leads to a type of anarchy. Dev indicated in another thread that because the illegals do not follow our laws, we have anarchy. I actually believe the opposite. Because we have anti-illegal vigilantes, sanctuary cities as well as local & state governments who throw the book at illegals and those who are involved with them, THAT to me is anarchy. In the absence (or perhaps deliberate blind eye turned) of the federal govt providing solution, individuals taking it upon themselves. THAT to me, is dangerous, for reasons I have stated previously in other threads.

Lobby for change, make the government do what it says it is supposed to be doing. Makes you wonder why it was all allowed in the first place. To me, it is obvious the government has not cared enough to solve the problem until the talks recently (and as I stated above, perhaps deliberate).

I certainly am not going to try to do their job. My answer is no.

Agreed - what's wrong with expecting government to do its job? Isn't that what we pay them for?

[natty bumppo 297]

Approximately 60% of people who replied to this poll are part of the problem.

Are you ?

Are you?

I don't think reporting random illegals to the authorities who may or may not take action (or take action in a timely manner while the information is 'hot') is a worthwhile use of time.

As mentioned earlier - I agree with Peejay that lobbying government to enforce the employment laws makes more sense.

So ... all show ... someone else needs to take real action.

I'm not part of the problem. I do my part to help enforce the laws in the workplace ... and as mentioned before ... Post Reference

How about when a company is not following city code? Or violating OSHA standards? Health code violations? Having employees working off the clock? Job dscrimination? Preventing employees from joining a union by firing the ones who try to organize?

Steven ... you are reaching beyond the context of this thread ...

I conveyed what I would do and what I would do to support my company and keep it honest and legally profitable. Litigation and fines only hurt the stock (shareholder), our bottom line, and overall health of the organization. Our management works very hard to do the right things and is quick to resolve issues.

All of the items you mentioned above ... are reportable and have serious consequences for the employer.

[Welshcookie 17]

if you worked at a place and KNEW there were multiple illegal immigrants working there, would you turn them in?

explain.

Is that why you were forced to quit your job? Did you turn someone in?

I think you lost your way.....the MEAN...sorry MENA board is that way ------------>

[StoryAngel 4]

if you worked at a place and KNEW there were multiple illegal immigrants working there, would you turn them in?

explain.

Are we talking people who deliberately entered the country illegally? Or people who are here legally but working illegally? I think it depends on circumstances and intent. There's a big difference between someone sneaking into the US deliberately illegally with the intention of getting a fake SSN and working illegally, and someone else who comes to the US, say on a K1 visa, and is working before they get their EAD. The circumstances and intent are entirely different, but AFAIK neither are legal workers.

[pedroh 21]

lol i love the immigrants going all 'yes america america, Im a law abiding immigrant, yes yes, i'd report them'.. typical from immigrants.. when they're here, now they're holier than thou 'citizens'.. lol..