illegal immigrants (another poll)

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I'm sure with my admission I am opening myself up to attack, but I'm ok with that. Honestly, I've never been in the position so I cannot say for sure, but my gut says "No, you wouldn't turn them in, Jen."

That's because you're a good person with a heart. You're not some cold-blooded heartless ideologue who gets off on the misery of others.

[Nessa 23]

totally

[chri'stina 190]

I won't say no or yes because I think it's circumstantial. If I felt the employer was doing shady things like underpaying illegal immigrants on purpose I would want to report the employer.

Who would you turn them(the workers) in to? Is there a 1 800-illegal-worker number to call? It seems nothing gets done already about the large amounts of undocumented workers. It is upon the employer to take the heat since they are the ones doing the hiring IMO. I am mixed on this issue. I don't think people should just try to sneak across the borders and then be given all the rights of those who are legally here, yet I don't go around wondering who is illegal or not so that I can report them.

[Sister Fracas 5]

No, not my place. Don't care what you think and not explaining why.

[SqdnGuns 21]

For the boneheads that say "no, never! its not my business."...........please give me all your money now since you don't seem to care about it.

[Sister Fracas 5]

LOL

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

For the boneheads that say "no, never! its not my business."...........please give me all your money now since you don't seem to care about it.

Illegals are here and I'm not getting any poorer from it. Maybe you are, in which case may I suggest you find a better paying profession?

Heck, illegals save me money in some very tangible ways.

Edited November 16, 2007 by VJ Troll

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The poll is looking distinctly one-sided...

Edited to add - I don't think its my business really either. More than that I wouldn't ask (or assume) in the first place.

Edited November 16, 2007 by Number 6

[no name 1]

For the boneheads that say "no, never! its not my business."...........please give me all your money now since you don't seem to care about it.

Illegals are here and I'm not getting any poorer from it. Maybe you are, in which case may I suggest you find a better paying profession?

Heck, illegals save me money in some very tangible ways.

So exploiting them is a better alternative?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

For the boneheads that say "no, never! its not my business."...........please give me all your money now since you don't seem to care about it.

Illegals are here and I'm not getting any poorer from it. Maybe you are, in which case may I suggest you find a better paying profession?

Heck, illegals save me money in some very tangible ways.

So exploiting them is a better alternative?

It's not exploitation when they call me and ask for work. As for minimum wage laws, well, let's just say the illegals who's services I pay for make way more than minimum wage

[GabachaYucateca 0]

I love the constant It's against the law!!! defense.

I suppose that those who cry foul and tell people like me that I have no regard for laws because I wouldn't turn people in have NEVER EVER run afoul of a law in your life. Right? That would follow logically since that's one of the main arguments. Never drank before turning 21 (depending on age, perhaps 18)? Never performed or received oral sex in a state in which laws prohibiting it are still on the books?

And laws are human-made and meant to change with the times and needs of society. If it's found that a law is unjust or doesn't work for society, then it's changed. Just like many want to do to either enforce immigration laws or create a path to citizenship.

[Caladan 19]

Q: What constitutes "aiding and abetting?"

A: Aiding and abetting is a theory of criminal liability. You can be guilty of a crime either as a principal perpetrator or as an aider and abettor.

Aiding and abetting applies to someone who assists in or facilitates the doing of a crime. To be held accountable as an aider and abettor, you must know of the criminal objective and do something to make it succeed. For example, if you drive your friend to a meeting where you know your friend is going to buy drugs, you may be an aider and abettor in the drug transaction.

The key here is knowledge. While the level of participation of the aider and abettor may be relatively minor, the prosecution must show more than presence in a vehicle carrying drugs or association with conspirators known to be involved in a crime.

In other words, mere presence at the scene of a crime, even with guilty knowledge that a crime is being committed, isn't enough to make you liable for the crime itself, unless and until you do something to help the crime succeed.

Under federal law, the punishment for someone who aids and abets a crime is the same as the punishment for the person who principally committed the crime. In some states, the punishment may be less.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-C...-FAQs.html#FOUR

Employers then are guilty. As they should be. Hopefully the new legislation that's been talked about will come to fruition.

Employers aren't guilty of abetting; they're guilty of violating the relevant employment laws.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Actually the main reason I wouldn't turn anyone in is because I value my job, and if I want to progress in the company, snitching on people probably isn't the best way to make friends.

[almaty 19]

i would never turn them in..and i have used them to work for me..and paid them equal of other citizen workers, but they did allot more work for their wages than the chopf##ks froom temp. services

[no name 1]

For the boneheads that say "no, never! its not my business."...........please give me all your money now since you don't seem to care about it.

Illegals are here and I'm not getting any poorer from it. Maybe you are, in which case may I suggest you find a better paying profession?

Heck, illegals save me money in some very tangible ways.

So exploiting them is a better alternative?

It's not exploitation when they call me and ask for work. As for minimum wage laws, well, let's just say the illegals who's services I pay for make way more than minimum wage

So you knowingly hire illegals?