Canadian RCMP tasers a 40-year old Polish immigrant to death at Vancouver airport

[Fandango 1,439]

IMO it's not that the cops wanted to kill him, but that pig cop mentality where they can do what they want superseded the public safety.

They were told he didn't understand english...yet 4 of them fanned out, attacked, and killed a man.

That poor man! Those awful murdering b@stards!

[Drew and Tik 0]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

[~Nini~ 2]

This is yet another reason why tasers should be outlawed. There are less-risky ways to immobilize someone than excessive force.

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

He didn't 'die'...he was killed.

And yeah, he was a complete victim. No English language, detained for 10 + hours, then attacked by 4 cops, tasered, thrown to the ground, getting suffocated by a knee to the neck, then tasered again?

And he's not a 'complete victim'???

[Drew and Tik 0]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

He didn't 'die'...he was killed.

And yeah, he was a complete victim. No English language, detained for 10 + hours, then attacked by 4 cops, tasered, thrown to the ground, getting suffocated by a knee to the neck, then tasered again?

And he's not a 'complete victim'???

You don't think he should have been arrested for destroying property? I would hate to live in a society run by people like you.

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

He didn't 'die'...he was killed.

And yeah, he was a complete victim. No English language, detained for 10 + hours, then attacked by 4 cops, tasered, thrown to the ground, getting suffocated by a knee to the neck, then tasered again?

And he's not a 'complete victim'???

You don't think he should have been arrested for destroying property? I would hate to live in a society run by people like you.

Where exactly did I say he shouldn't have been charged with destroying property???? Hrmmm?

[Delicia 1]

That poor man just went through his CIC immigration process which by itself, as a skilled worker, takes about 5 years. He finally makes the trip and he is murdered in the airport....

[Drew and Tik 0]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

He didn't 'die'...he was killed.

And yeah, he was a complete victim. No English language, detained for 10 + hours, then attacked by 4 cops, tasered, thrown to the ground, getting suffocated by a knee to the neck, then tasered again?

And he's not a 'complete victim'???

You don't think he should have been arrested for destroying property? I would hate to live in a society run by people like you.

Where exactly did I say he shouldn't have been charged with destroying property???? Hrmmm?

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought that was implied when you said he was a complete victim.

I do agree that he shouldn't have been killed, but I also think he's partially responsible for putting himself in such a position. It was excessive force, but if I was in his shoes I would understand the risk I was placing myself in by acting in such a manner.

[Caladan 19]

Maybe they weren't very experienced? I am sure they weren't expecting the guy to die but one does wonder why apparently excessive force is used rather a lot when the authorities are dealing with disturbed people.

Paradoxically, I think it's the fact that the taser has been touted as non-lethal that makes it psychologically easier to decide to use in a situation where no officer would think of pulling a gun.

I'm sure the officers didn't set out to kill him, but something's gone amiss with training and use of tasers if that's the result.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

I think so too. The LA Police had to stop using a special choke hold on assailants after several incidental deaths resulted because the choke hold was cutting off the blood supply.

A poor handling of a situation. Tragic.

[pedroh 21]

Yes, the police wanted to kill him, gimme a break!! Lot of people that sit behind desks, etc etc and have no clue on what sort of stress police officers go through, have little right to make comments! The guy could have been hyped up on drugs, he could have had a wpn! Police do not know that, they went on what they knew at that moment; he was throwing a chair and a computer! Doesn't sound like a sane individual. Who knows what else may have been passed onto the Police at scene. maybe in the report to them, it may have stated he had some sort of weapon, etc! When it comes to these scenarios, one is under a fair amount of adrenaline. Could they have handled things better/ I'm sure the police involved wish they had taken a different route, did things different. i know many Police officers, and none that i know brag about having to use too much force. They are more than happy to leave their revolvers/tasers holstered.

OMG because a chair and a computer are so dangerous when thrown to the floor... cmon, the guy was having a bad day, that's it, he didn't look like he wanted to kill someone, nor that he was on drugs.. and the problem here is, not the taser, probably to avoid more confrontation they tasered him, but after being tasered, 4 cops on top of him,, with the knee on the neck?! they should freaking know that people who've been fried can't breathe well, they either were stupid, or just wanted to be violent with him.. that was very excessive.. besides. it wasn't a 6'2" muscular guy who could beat the ####### out of 4 guys.. it looks like a guy who can't run a short sprint withouth having a heart attack..

besides, not knowing his behavior doesn't justify such violence, if he had hit an officer, ok.. that's what happens when you try to punch a cop, you get beaten, but just frustration and not speaking english, is not enough

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

He didn't 'die'...he was killed.

And yeah, he was a complete victim. No English language, detained for 10 + hours, then attacked by 4 cops, tasered, thrown to the ground, getting suffocated by a knee to the neck, then tasered again?

And he's not a 'complete victim'???

You don't think he should have been arrested for destroying property? I would hate to live in a society run by people like you.

Where exactly did I say he shouldn't have been charged with destroying property???? Hrmmm?

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought that was implied when you said he was a complete victim.

I do agree that he shouldn't have been killed, but I also think he's partially responsible for putting himself in such a position. It was excessive force, but if I was in his shoes I would understand the risk I was placing myself in by acting in such a manner.

For being murdered? He is a complete victim.

Understood the risk? #######? He was detained for 10 hours, didn't know the language, and then was killed. The cops were told he didn't understand the language....yet they approached him anyway. Knee to the neck and God knows how many volts thru his body in no way was an appropriate response to him throwing a computer on the floor.

[pedroh 21]

I don't think the taser killed him, I think it was the rookie keeping his knee on the guy's neck.

They guy isn't a complete victim, he did need to be arrested, but he shouldn't have died. I don't think they should have tasered him, but I don't think it was the taser that killed him, it was the guy's knee on his neck. And yes, they should have gotten a translator and then arrested him.

He didn't 'die'...he was killed.

And yeah, he was a complete victim. No English language, detained for 10 + hours, then attacked by 4 cops, tasered, thrown to the ground, getting suffocated by a knee to the neck, then tasered again?

And he's not a 'complete victim'???

You don't think he should have been arrested for destroying property? I would hate to live in a society run by people like you.

Where exactly did I say he shouldn't have been charged with destroying property???? Hrmmm?

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought that was implied when you said he was a complete victim.

I do agree that he shouldn't have been killed, but I also think he's partially responsible for putting himself in such a position. It was excessive force, but if I was in his shoes I would understand the risk I was placing myself in by acting in such a manner.

For being murdered? He is a complete victim.

Understood the risk? #######? He was detained for 10 hours, didn't know the language, and then was killed. The cops were told he didn't understand the language....yet they approached him anyway. Knee to the neck and God knows how many volts thru his body in no way was an appropriate response to him throwing a computer on the floor.

WORD

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Also its not like the guy threw the computer at the cops. From the video it didn't look as though he was being violent or abusive towards the officers. It's not like he was coming at them with a chair...

[Emancipation 2]

Update to this story....

Officials at Vancouver International Airport have announced how they will spend $1.4 million a year to improve service for international visitors.

The changes include:

Hiring new public safety officers skilled in negotiations and non-physical intervention

24-hour staffing of the customer care kiosks in the international arrivals area and inside the customs hall

Terminal-wide access to translation services

Emergency medical responders stationed in the airport 24 hours a day

Improved multilingual signage with pictograms and translations in as many as 20 languages

Hourly walk-through of the customs hall by airport staff and 24-hour public safety patrols

Improved communication from inside the secure area of the customs hall to the public arrivals lounge for both staff and the public

A new arrivals video that will be shown on all incoming international flights

Improved customer care training for all airport staff

A Vancouver airport official presents changes underway for the international arrivals area, Friday in Richmond.

(CBC) The improvements were announced Friday at the Fairmont airport hotel in Richmond. Robert Dziekanski, a Polish immigrant, died in the arrivals lounge of the airport after being stunned by RCMP officers with a Taser on Oct. 14.

Officials also released a complete timeline of Dziekanski's hours at the airport.

New details contained in the report included information that two airport officials saw Dziekanski sweating profusely shortly after his arrival at 3:20 p.m. on Oct. 13.

Airport officials also revealed that security staff saw Dziekanski reach into his pocket and pull out an object they could not identify, moments before he was stunned with the Taser.

After Dziekanski was stunned, the object fell from his hand and turned out to be a stapler.

Airport staff also said that immediately after Dziekanski was stunned, an ambulance was called and an airport official helped police find a pulse and confirmed Dziekanski was breathing. But when the ambulance arrived, paramedics determined Dziekanski was no longer breathing and had no pulse.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/...serchanges.html