Perfect!!

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If a certain religious group wants to practice their value system, they can do it within their own community, but definitely they cannot force their beliefs onto the larger society when they are a minority.

What about when they are a majority?

The same rule applies, if they are the majority, and they make their own laws and rules.. Then the people who wish to move there should conform to the language and laws.

That's if it's a theocracy. If the country specifically states that it is a does not make laws based on religion, then the majority g**d*** well has the obligation not to make its religion into law just because it's the majority and can get away with it.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

[Aymerlu 3]

awwwww geez......not again!!!!!

[Reba 2]

in Canada, at least where I am at, the general view is that we embrace cultural diversity instead of making every immigrant assimilate. are we wrong in doing that?

that is the basic difference between Canada and the US and other countries. Canada is about the only true "multi-cultural" country there is. Immigrants are encouraged (by immigration law) to learn at least one of the official languages, and I think can't pass the citizenship tests if they don't. If they are more proficient in French than in English, they'll be told to emmigrate to Quebec rather than a more predominantly Anglo province. No one is ever told tho to like it or lump it, (not by government anyway, individual opinions vary ) they're allowed to keep their home culture, and that in itself is Canada's culture. Tho many will say Canada has none. America is a melting pot (remember School House Rock? ) people are more encouraged to "become American" when they immigrate here, and it seems less and less acceptable to keep any bit of your former culture once you're here.

About a year or so ago Muslim clerics in Ontario tried to get the provincial government to have Sharia law for Muslims, it never passed, and likely never will. Canada's laws are based on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, not religion. Like PM Chretien said when gay marriage was allowed and someone told him he'd burn in hell. He said "that's up to me and my God, not anyone else. Our laws are not based on The Bible".

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in Canada, at least where I am at, the general view is that we embrace cultural diversity instead of making every immigrant assimilate. are we wrong in doing that?

that is the basic difference between Canada and the US and other countries. Canada is about the only true "multi-cultural" country there is. Immigrants are encouraged (by immigration law) to learn at least one of the official languages, and I think can't pass the citizenship tests if they don't. If they are more proficient in French than in English, they'll be told to emmigrate to Quebec rather than a more predominantly Anglo province. No one is ever told tho to like it or lump it, (not by government anyway, individual opinions vary ) they're allowed to keep their home culture, and that in itself is Canada's culture. Tho many will say Canada has none. America is a melting pot (remember School House Rock? ) people are more encouraged to "become American" when they immigrate here, and it seems less and less acceptable to keep any bit of your former culture once you're here.

About a year or so ago Muslim clerics in Ontario tried to get the provincial government to have Sharia law for Muslims, it never passed, and likely never will. Canada's laws are based on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, not religion. Like PM Chretien said when gay marriage was allowed and someone told him he'd burn in hell. He said "that's up to me and my God, not anyone else. Our laws are not based on The Bible".

[tom&tata 2]

Like PM Chretien said when gay marriage was allowed and someone told him he'd burn in hell. He said "that's up to me and my God, not anyone else. Our laws are not based on The Bible".

That is very good.

[rebeccajo 14]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

Religious practices, including dress, are a person's own business. Our constitution protects that.

Our constitution, whether written by Christians or otherwise, laid the foundation for the LAWS of our land, which every resident on our soil should be expected to follow - regardless of their cultural or religious affiliation.

Don't confuse law with religious freedom or cultural diversity.

And don't allow the law to overtake either.

Edited April 17, 2006 by rebeccajo

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

The immigrants of the past assimulated to the American culture and didn't 'celebrate diversity'. They didn't demand that their minority language be spoken by the majority. Please get your head out of the sand.. thanks.

[Fandango 1,440]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

The immigrants of the past assimulated to the American culture and didn't 'celebrate diversity'. They didn't demand that their minority language be spoken by the majority. Please get your head out of the sand.. thanks.

Yeah ytou're right, but also it is prolly one of the reasons my great-grandparents didn't pass down the Italian language to us. That's a shame, because I would have loved to know it.

There needs to be a happy medium where people don't become this homogenized being....we shouldn't be a 'metling pot' where everyone is the same...rather, we should be a tossed salad with each one of us complementing the other.

But as far as the article....a lot of people are missing this....it's NOT saying 'give up your beliefs and become one of us' it's saying that people can only live by Australian law in Australia. That's it.

[Jasman0717 9]

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

The immigrants of the past assimulated to the American culture and didn't 'celebrate diversity'. They didn't demand that their minority language be spoken by the majority. Please get your head out of the sand.. thanks.

Yeah ytou're right, but also it is prolly one of the reasons my great-grandparents didn't pass down the Italian language to us. That's a shame, because I would have loved to know it.

There needs to be a happy medium where people don't become this homogenized being....we shouldn't be a 'metling pot' where everyone is the same...rather, we should be a tossed salad with each one of us complementing the other.

But as far as the article....a lot of people are missing this....it's NOT saying 'give up your beliefs and become one of us' it's saying that people can only live by Australian law in Australia. That's it.

Blame your grandparents not society. Sheese.. responsibility starts at home...

[Fandango 1,440]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

The immigrants of the past assimulated to the American culture and didn't 'celebrate diversity'. They didn't demand that their minority language be spoken by the majority. Please get your head out of the sand.. thanks.

Yeah ytou're right, but also it is prolly one of the reasons my great-grandparents didn't pass down the Italian language to us. That's a shame, because I would have loved to know it.

There needs to be a happy medium where people don't become this homogenized being....we shouldn't be a 'metling pot' where everyone is the same...rather, we should be a tossed salad with each one of us complementing the other.

But as far as the article....a lot of people are missing this....it's NOT saying 'give up your beliefs and become one of us' it's saying that people can only live by Australian law in Australia. That's it.

Blame your grandparents not society. Sheese.. responsibility starts at home...

Reading comprehension 101....give it a go!

[Fuzzness 2]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

The immigrants of the past assimulated to the American culture and didn't 'celebrate diversity'. They didn't demand that their minority language be spoken by the majority. Please get your head out of the sand.. thanks.

Yeah ytou're right, but also it is prolly one of the reasons my great-grandparents didn't pass down the Italian language to us. That's a shame, because I would have loved to know it.

There needs to be a happy medium where people don't become this homogenized being....we shouldn't be a 'metling pot' where everyone is the same...rather, we should be a tossed salad with each one of us complementing the other.

But as far as the article....a lot of people are missing this....it's NOT saying 'give up your beliefs and become one of us' it's saying that people can only live by Australian law in Australia. That's it.

Blame your grandparents not society. Sheese.. responsibility starts at home...

Reading comprehension 101....give it a go!

PWNED!!

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Cultural diversity, in my opinion, is what made America great. America wouldn't be what she is today without the immigrants of the past.

The immigrants of the past assimulated to the American culture and didn't 'celebrate diversity'. They didn't demand that their minority language be spoken by the majority. Please get your head out of the sand.. thanks.

Yeah ytou're right, but also it is prolly one of the reasons my great-grandparents didn't pass down the Italian language to us. That's a shame, because I would have loved to know it.

There needs to be a happy medium where people don't become this homogenized being....we shouldn't be a 'metling pot' where everyone is the same...rather, we should be a tossed salad with each one of us complementing the other.

But as far as the article....a lot of people are missing this....it's NOT saying 'give up your beliefs and become one of us' it's saying that people can only live by Australian law in Australia. That's it.

Blame your grandparents not society. Sheese.. responsibility starts at home...

Reading comprehension 101....give it a go!

nit pick my reading comprehension go ahead. Blame your great-grand-parents then.. whatever.... it's still their fault. lazy chopf#cks

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You know, I've never seen people ragging on other peoples grandparents on VJ before. Maybe today is a good day to start. Hopefully this thread can become our latest entrant into the locked threads hall of fame by end of business today.