Anti-immigration hysteria holds 17M Latino voters hostage

[almaty 19]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

same in my home town..has a italian festa every year..the town and city hall flies the flag of italy....so what is the problem that it is a mexican flag...i got a Chechen one..and i fly it whne i want to,, and F##k everyone if that is a problem............it is theirs not mine

Is this about the guy who cut down the Mexican flag? I thought he did that because the store owner decided to fly the Mexican flag above the US flag. The guy was a vigilante. That should have been an issue for the police rather than "handling it" himself. He looked like an azz! Heck, I fly a Colorado flag in Florida and no one has ever questioned me about it. My Seahawks flag I have to keep hidden in the garage though.

i don't blame you about the seahag flag...go rams

Edited November 13, 2007 by almaty

[NavarreMan 10]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

same in my home town..has a italian festa every year..the town and city hall flies the flag of italy....so what is the problem that it is a mexican flag...i got a Chechen one..and i fly it whne i want to,, and F##k everyone if that is a problem............it is theirs not mine

Is this about the guy who cut down the Mexican flag? I thought he did that because the store owner decided to fly the Mexican flag above the US flag. The guy was a vigilante. That should have been an issue for the police rather than "handling it" himself. He looked like an azz! Heck, I fly a Colorado flag in Florida and no one has ever questioned me about it. My Seahawks flag I have to keep hidden in the garage though.

i don't blame you about the seahag flag...go rams

SF feels the same!!!

[almaty 19]

lol...what does the whiners fans know about anything

[NavarreMan 10]

lol...what does the whiners fans know about anything

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This article is suggesting Hispanic equals pro-illegal immigration. That would be insulting to many of the law-abiding Hispanic Americans.

it suggests that many hispanics are tired of listening to the same ####### everyday.. some of these law abiding citizens probably once were illegals.. I know a few who became citizens with the amnesty.. and, just because they are citizens now, they won't think any different

So you're saying that even once illegals, who later become citizens, will always side with the law-breakers against law-abiding Americans just because they look like them? I don't see how they will get very far with this mentality in the long run. America's NOT going for it.

they don't side, but they feel simpathy for them, they pity the illegals, they understand them, rather than 'i don't give a damn about them'.. hell, even latinos who are against amnesties feel bad for them, you can't stop feeling related to people from your own country just because you're a USC..

and.. 'America's not going for it'.. remember those USC latinos ARE America too..

Oh excuse me, I just seem to remember a great deal of foreign flag waving in their parade and if they are Americans maybe they should start acting like it and join the rest of us for a secure border and enforcement of our immigration laws.

well, they are Americans, they have the right to think whatever they want.. they don't have to agree with everything 'the rest of us' is saying.. and that doesn't make them less American.. and about the foreign flags, I've seen people flying a lot of flags, Irish, British, German flags, that makes them less American too?

'joining the rest of us' is just being sheep, rather than thinking what they think is right or fair.. again, they are many latinos against amnesties.. I don't want any more amnesties, but I won't turn my back on my people either

What American doesn't want a secure border? That's just depraved. One can have compassion but still want our country secure and laws enforced. If people want anarchy then maybe they should stay in their anarchic homelands.

well, this is their homeland now, so, I guess you can't send them back.. and.. I agree you can have compassion and have laws enforced, but I've seen many arguments here about how compassion is an excuse.. I know members here would rat out a relative or someone they know if they were illegal.. where's the compassion? I think for many immigrants, family, or countrymen come first than 'the enforcement of laws' and 'sovereignity'

I don't think that's hard to understand and there is an obvious rationale for it, whether or not people outside of the rationale actually agree with it.

I think that (for better or worse) immigration from Central America has over several decades resulted in a cultural-political change - specifically in those states which actually bordering Mexico (California, being one notable example). To some extent the recent protests there about immigration reform speak to that - and when I was living there I was aware of several of my former co-workers (hispanic USCs) who attended those rallies together with their families.

The laissez-faire immigration controls are the reason for this of course I don't think that's in any doubt - but I think that trying to pretend at this point that there are not real and significant ties between the two countries, is frankly denying the obvious. We can't really go back on history, and we can't pretend that several decades worth of bad policy haven't had a very real and continuing impact on the economic, and cultural diversity of this country.

IMO that is what make this issue rather contentious, because we do have USCs with family in both countries who would be impacted negatively by any proposed border crackdown.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

Scandalisimo!

[almaty 19]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

Scandalisimo!

damn commie unamerican mafiso want a be..how is that for sterotyping ?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

Scandalisimo!

damn commie unamerican mafiso want a be..how is that for sterotyping ?

I have the bottle rockets ready, brother comrade....just waiting for your signal.

[almaty 19]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

Scandalisimo!

damn commie unamerican mafiso want a be..how is that for sterotyping ?

I have the bottle rockets ready, brother comrade....just waiting for your signal.

i am reaching out to the illegal community...need to scapegoat them...as not only illegal but commies...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yeah there's this industrial area near where I live, drive through it and there are little Italian flags everywhere.

Scandalisimo!

damn commie unamerican mafiso want a be..how is that for sterotyping ?

I have the bottle rockets ready, brother comrade....just waiting for your signal.

i am reaching out to the illegal community...need to scapegoat them...as not only illegal but commies...

Ah, yes...recruitment! We're gunning run this country over and they won't know what hit 'em.

[Boblop 0]

It makes me sick and tired to hear the equation illegal immigrant = Latino, just as sick and tired I am of the assumption that every immigrant is illegal.

Sadly the news coverage makes it look as if these assumptions are widely supported by the Latino community, as the above quoted article shows.

BTW, creating a special driver's license for illegal immigrants is ridiculous. What makes anyone think that someone who doesn't want to get caught by the federal system, would like to be "registered" within a US state?

ditto

"A sus Ordenes Mi General!"...Mi Presidente, I have written here at VJ about the main reason that I refuse to

be yanked into the "so called" illegal immigration debate. My main reason though, is that the millions of pages that are

written on the subject excludes, and let me be clear, the obvious reason for such an uproar of the illegals...by the press.

That reason, is that the media has been silenced and censored by the Bush cartel and the Rovian machine in the absence

of any other single credible issue to run on in the coming Presidential elections next year. Of course you are right. The

Latino and illegal aliens have become the boogieman this time around.

The Sadam Husien muchroom clouds and his Weapons of Mass Destruction worked perfectly for the GOP arm and arm

with the scare tactic of the Terrorists. That was in the prior elections that gave the U.S. Supreme Court the chance to

give Bush his second term. The American people knew, that the election was stolen on the bases of scare tactics using

Saddam.

This time around we are not hearing about the terrorists coming to get us. We are hearing that in order to keep them

out, we must shut all our borders....Be afraid Americano! Be very afraid....The Mexicans are a drug cartel that supports

terrorists. We must keep them out and send all those here illegally back across the border and shut the door tight, but

still be afraid Americano!

So what`s knew Mi GENERAL?????

Boblop

[JeanneVictoria 55]

[almaty 19]

you know it brother....just like Lenin took russia,.,amerika will be ours..i blowing yo mt rushmore and repalcing it with lennon and the marx brothers

[one...two...tree 2,762]

you know it brother....just like Lenin took russia,.,amerika will be ours..i blowing yo mt rushmore and repalcing it with lennon and the marx brothers

LOL ...and we need to carve Cheech in there for our Mexcan brethen comrade recruits.

[no name 1]

because we do have USCs with family in both countries who would be impacted negatively by any proposed border crackdown.

The phrase 'tough t*tties' comes to mind...

USCs (should be) our priority not their illegal friends & family.

Edited November 13, 2007 by devilette