How much longer can we 'overshoot'?

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[one...two...tree 2,762]

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Steven ... the hotel pictures you made...

Time we talk ?

Hotel? I was in rehab.

[natty bumppo 297]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

2 for 1? Twin Daddy?

[natty bumppo 297]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

2 for 1? Twin Daddy?

So ... you know I don't mess around ... I hit the targets

*using godfather voice*

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

2 for 1? Twin Daddy?

So ... you know I don't mess around ... I hit the targets

*using godfather voice*

I'll say...like a double-barrel shotgun.

[natty bumppo 297]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

2 for 1? Twin Daddy?

So ... you know I don't mess around ... I hit the targets

*using godfather voice*

I'll say...like a double-barrel shotgun.

who needs a double-barrel shotgun ... One shot does the job

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Nagi ... we are so bad

i could be worse........

i always thought an overshoot was what i did to nessa's hair

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

2 for 1? Twin Daddy?

So ... you know I don't mess around ... I hit the targets

*using godfather voice*

I'll say...like a double-barrel shotgun.

who needs a double-barrel shotgun ... One shot does the job

Hats off to your brother ... even with my semi-auto, I was having to stop to reload.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

According to the Matrix, humans are viruses that over-populate and suck-up every nature resource until there is nothing left... I tend to agree!!!

[peejay 327]

Our population is consuming about 30% more trees, fish and fossil fuels than the planet can regenerate. How big a hole can we dig before we can't get out of it? Kai Ryssdal talks with Jared Diamond, a geography professor at UCLA.

KAI RYSSDAL: There's a technical term for what we're doing as we eat, shop, drive and go about our daily lives. The word is "overshoot" -- when a population uses up resources faster than they can be replaced.

Today, we're consuming about 30 percent more trees, fish and fossil fuels than the planet can regenerate. We can run a deficit like this for a little while, but there are limits to how big a hole we can dig before it gets too deep to get out of.

To help understand those limits we spoke with Jared Diamond. He's a professor of geography at the University of California, Los Angeles. You might know him better though his books -- Collapse, among others. When we talked, I asked him whether we've overshot our resources already:

Jared Diamond: Of course we are in overshoot and everybody knows that we are in overshoot -- and we are overshooting the things that people talk most about. First thing we're running out of is oil, and everybody knows it. Second thing we're running out of is water. Something like 70 percent of the fresh water in the world is already utilized. Topsoil -- we're exploiting it and it's running off into the ocean. We've already exhausted something like maybe half of the topsoil that was originally in the Great Plains. And then fish and forests...

You can listen to the entire interview here:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display...consumed1_pm_3/

I thought that the answer to all of the world's woes was to open our borders and let everybody immigrate to the USA. I thought the USA has enough abundance to support the entire world. So what's up with this "overshoot" sh*t? Say it isn't so!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Our population is consuming about 30% more trees, fish and fossil fuels than the planet can regenerate. How big a hole can we dig before we can't get out of it? Kai Ryssdal talks with Jared Diamond, a geography professor at UCLA.

KAI RYSSDAL: There's a technical term for what we're doing as we eat, shop, drive and go about our daily lives. The word is "overshoot" -- when a population uses up resources faster than they can be replaced.

Today, we're consuming about 30 percent more trees, fish and fossil fuels than the planet can regenerate. We can run a deficit like this for a little while, but there are limits to how big a hole we can dig before it gets too deep to get out of.

To help understand those limits we spoke with Jared Diamond. He's a professor of geography at the University of California, Los Angeles. You might know him better though his books -- Collapse, among others. When we talked, I asked him whether we've overshot our resources already:

Jared Diamond: Of course we are in overshoot and everybody knows that we are in overshoot -- and we are overshooting the things that people talk most about. First thing we're running out of is oil, and everybody knows it. Second thing we're running out of is water. Something like 70 percent of the fresh water in the world is already utilized. Topsoil -- we're exploiting it and it's running off into the ocean. We've already exhausted something like maybe half of the topsoil that was originally in the Great Plains. And then fish and forests...

You can listen to the entire interview here:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display...consumed1_pm_3/

I thought that the answer to all of the world's woes was to open our borders and let everybody immigrate to the USA. I thought the USA has enough abundance to support the entire world. So what's up with this "overshoot" sh*t? Say it isn't so!

The key word is overconsumption, brother. We consume more natural resources today, per capita then we did 40 years ago.

[natty bumppo 297]

I have a deal for you ... *using godfather voice*

2 for 1? Twin Daddy?

So ... you know I don't mess around ... I hit the targets

*using godfather voice*

I'll say...like a double-barrel shotgun.

who needs a double-barrel shotgun ... One shot does the job

Hats off to your brother ... even with my semi-auto, I was having to stop to reload.

Cool ....

[pedroh 21]

Nagi ... we are so bad

i could be worse........

i always thought an overshoot was what i did to nessa's hair

:lol:

[peejay 327]

Our population is consuming about 30% more trees, fish and fossil fuels than the planet can regenerate. How big a hole can we dig before we can't get out of it? Kai Ryssdal talks with Jared Diamond, a geography professor at UCLA.

KAI RYSSDAL: There's a technical term for what we're doing as we eat, shop, drive and go about our daily lives. The word is "overshoot" -- when a population uses up resources faster than they can be replaced.

Today, we're consuming about 30 percent more trees, fish and fossil fuels than the planet can regenerate. We can run a deficit like this for a little while, but there are limits to how big a hole we can dig before it gets too deep to get out of.

To help understand those limits we spoke with Jared Diamond. He's a professor of geography at the University of California, Los Angeles. You might know him better though his books -- Collapse, among others. When we talked, I asked him whether we've overshot our resources already:

Jared Diamond: Of course we are in overshoot and everybody knows that we are in overshoot -- and we are overshooting the things that people talk most about. First thing we're running out of is oil, and everybody knows it. Second thing we're running out of is water. Something like 70 percent of the fresh water in the world is already utilized. Topsoil -- we're exploiting it and it's running off into the ocean. We've already exhausted something like maybe half of the topsoil that was originally in the Great Plains. And then fish and forests...

You can listen to the entire interview here:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display...consumed1_pm_3/

I thought that the answer to all of the world's woes was to open our borders and let everybody immigrate to the USA. I thought the USA has enough abundance to support the entire world. So what's up with this "overshoot" sh*t? Say it isn't so!

The key word is overconsumption, brother. We consume more natural resources today, per capita then we did 40 years ago.

So...how does mass uncontrolled immigration (legal & illegal) help the situation here in the good ol' USA? It's about like throwing more gasoline on an already raging fire. Why go there? Is it for the empathy and compassion orgasm? What happens after you get your nut? Do you pin all your hopes on science and technology's ability to pull our fat out of the fire? Isn't that putting the cart before the horse?

I really see no benefit to detrimental policies that in reality just benefits the few at the expense of most of the American people. I stopped worrying about saving the world a long time ago.