Sending THE Visa...

[LebaneseMama 1]

dayum you send your fiancee money? its supposed to be the other way around.

I have no problem sending him money. I'll see it all when he comes back. He'll be supporting me through the next couple years of school (the program is intense and I cannot work during it). It's not a large sum of money anyways, ever heard of sharing?

its the other way around! I would never pay for some man.

So that means if your husband comes to America and doesn't immediately have a job, you're going to leave him ?

My husbands pride is too thick to beg any woman for money! He insists on paying for all things.

You may like to think that you're insulting me, but in effect you are insulting ANY woman on VJ who has ever sent their husband/fiancé money, and I know many that do. But why is it your focus to call me out, is there something that is bothering you?

Yacine doesn't beg. The average job in Algeria obviously isn't the equivalent to the money that we make here in the states.. So.. Given the fact that the medical exam is expensive, sending documents by DHL is expensive (which he's had to send to me twice) 2 x $90, translating documents and paying for the actual visa itself, most of that is out of reach for a lot of Algerians. That's what I'm sending him the money for. In Algeria, one can make the equivalent of $220 per month (that's what his brother makes, around 15,000 DA) and live a comfortable life in Algeria. Could you imagine having to work 3 weeks and spend none of it, just to send 2 documents via DHL? The same amount of money that DHL charged him, he could've bought two months worth of food for his entire family.

But Given the scenario that I gave you, it still did not answer my question. If your husband comes to the U.S. and can't find a job, what are you going to do? You said you would never allow him to to take money from you. So are you going to let him starve, make him walk to job interviews and make him sleep on the porch? Are you going to refuse to allow him to take showers because he has not pitched in on the water bill? Given the current condition of employment in America, this scenario is very likely. MSN just published a report on American students moving back to their parents house because of the fact that the economy is tight right now. Students with bachelors degrees are even having to resort to entry-level service jobs. I know two college graduates who are working a job with their degree and not making much, so they have to take on a second job serving food at a restaurant just to make ends meet. I also know two people here, who have Masters degrees in Engineering, which they completed on their student visa. Well guess what? They are completely stressing out, because there is the time limit immigration gives to them to find a job, and engineering has recently become a pretty competitive field.

Honestly, relationships are reciprocal. He'll support me when I am in school, and when I finish school, I have no problem supporting him while he studies. Relationships are about sharing and support. Many of my professors have done the same! For the female professors, when they were busy getting their degree, their husband worked and helped take care of the children. When the men went to get their degree, their wives took jobs and took care of the kids. That's how you get households with 3 kids, and 2 PhD's. The true relationships that last a lifetime, are about equality, mutual sharing and sticking alongside that other person no matter what, because marriage vows are "till death do us part"... Not.. "till you can't find a job and can't pay for MY selfish needs anymore".

Honestly, could you just leave me alone? Obviously you're following me holding some kind of grudge just because you lack the ability to agree to disagree. If your husband has so much pride, and if he is muslim, or religious in any way, I am sure that you did not tell him you used cuss words (Albeit in a foreign language, but nonetheless, still a cuss word) in a public forum. Your nastiness is beyond belief and honestly, I've recieved many PM's from people saying that you were nasty towards them as well, it's not worth it to respond to you, and that you are racist towards caucasian-americans. Yes, these people are among us, and they wish to remain anonymous due to the fact that you'd probably blow up on them too (or have done so already). I really wish VJ had an ignore feature. Anyways, this is my last response to you. There's no possible way to reason with someone who resorts to foul language, schoolyard remarks, and general immoral behavior. You've wasted enough of my time.

Have a wonderful day.

100% agreed ! You go girl ... well said.

[babybunny 2]

I have told you something you should respect.

Then you shuold respect other people have their own beliefs and traditions and that is their right Practice what you preech

actully I do. I dont send my man money. nor did I tell that girl to compair my husband with her man.

the lady I was addressing is muslim. but, you are so in this convo you lost sight of that!

[Fuzzness 2]

shon... just a bit of friendly advice here... you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. just say goodnight and go watch some tv.

[denali_1963 0]

Please just open your top desk drawer and take your prozac its right next to your bon bons you can do it!

[gimygirl 0]

Shon, YOU'RE the one who brought your older brother into this. Just like you brought yourself, your husband, and my fiance into this discussion. You asked for it, you got it.

go melissa go!!!

(but remember that your logic will be lost on her ... she is fun to run circles around though!)

[babybunny 2]

shon... just a bit of friendly advice here... you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. just say goodnight and go watch some tv.

you can go to sleep if you want.

Shon, YOU'RE the one who brought your older brother into this. Just like you brought yourself, your husband, and my fiance into this discussion. You asked for it, you got it.

go melissa go!!!

(but remember that your logic will be lost on her ... she is fun to run circles around though!)

it was not me. it was one of your smart azz clans that brought in about blind and deaf people.

I asked was they insulting my brother!

[Linababe 0]

How the hell is this person ever gonna get anyone to answer any of her questions on VJ... Im totally not bothered with helping her after reading this thread. - all I can say is that this person is so self centered, racist, controlling, has no respect for others and their values... its all "Im Right, youre wrong" and if she has really had 4 or so marrages before this one... ohh... god help this poor guy.

[babybunny 2]

I asked you to back off my brother. missliss

you dont want me talking about your drug taste testing fiancee

you need to back up.

[Traviesa 0]

shon... just a bit of friendly advice here... you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. just say goodnight and go watch some tv.

you can go to sleep if you want.

Shon, YOU'RE the one who brought your older brother into this. Just like you brought yourself, your husband, and my fiance into this discussion. You asked for it, you got it.

go melissa go!!!

(but remember that your logic will be lost on her ... she is fun to run circles around though!)

it was not me. it was one of your smart azz clans that brought in about blind and deaf people.

I asked was they insulting my brother!

Yeah, since everyone knows him and all that was definitely directed at him. But wait-is your brother real or is he made up like you? What pops out of his box? A bunny or something else?

[babybunny 2]

How the hell is this person ever gonna get anyone to answer any of her questions on VJ... Im totally not bothered with helping her after reading this thread. - all I can say is that this person is so self centered, racist, controlling, has no respect for others and their values... its all "Im Right, youre wrong" and if she has really had 4 or so marrages before this one... ohh... god help this poor guy.

thats me!

missliss you did not want me talkign about your illegal -drug testing man.

so why you crossing the line when it comes to my brother? I asked you to leave him out of it

deal with me. be a woman little girl.

[Traviesa 0]

I asked you to back off my brother. missliss

you dont want me talking about your drug taste testing fiancee

you need to back up.

Grabbing at straws now Shon? I never said anything insulting about your brother...only that it was YOU who brought him into this discussion, which is true. If you don't believe what I'm saying you can go back and read this thread from start to finish-I NEVER insulted your brother. You, however, have now TWICE insulted my fiance. By the way, my sister who has 10 years ago passed away, was born brain damaged. She was deaf and mute as well as vegetative her entire life. So I would be the LAST one to insult someone disabled. Now YOU back off ME and my fiance.

[Fuzzness 2]

How the hell is this person ever gonna get anyone to answer any of her questions on VJ... Im totally not bothered with helping her after reading this thread. - all I can say is that this person is so self centered, racist, controlling, has no respect for others and their values... its all "Im Right, youre wrong" and if she has really had 4 or so marrages before this one... ohh... god help this poor guy.

thats me!

missliss you did not want me talkign about your illegal -drug testing man.

so why you crossing the line when it comes to my brother? I asked you to leave him out of it

deal with me. be a woman little girl.

didn't she ask you to leave Javier out of it many posts ago?

I must be missing something here.

[Linababe 0]

I have told you something you should respect.

Then you shuold respect other people have their own beliefs and traditions and that is their right Practice what you preech

actully I do. I dont send my man money. nor did I tell that girl to compair my husband with her man.

the lady I was addressing is muslim. but, you are so in this convo you lost sight of that!

I was talking about what yu said about having respect for the fact that you mentioned your brother was deaf and mute - basically you thought the other poster was slandering your brother. well I SAY "Practice what you preech" because you started slandering the OP - so have some respect for others beliefs they have a right to belive what they want. as one poster said - you do like dishing it out but cant handle it coming back at ya

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

How the hell is this person ever gonna get anyone to answer any of her questions on VJ... Im totally not bothered with helping her after reading this thread. - all I can say is that this person is so self centered, racist, controlling, has no respect for others and their values... its all "Im Right, youre wrong" and if she has really had 4 or so marrages before this one... ohh... god help this poor guy.

thats me!

missliss you did not want me talkign about your illegal -drug testing man.

so why you crossing the line when it comes to my brother? I asked you to leave him out of it

deal with me. be a woman little girl.

yeah, be a woman like shonjaved. spout nonsense, and go pack on about 100 more pounds.

and just in case you forgot, shonjaved, i'm the one who commented about blind deaf and dumb.

so you can direct your remarks at me about that should you need additional flogging

[Welshcookie 17]

shon... just a bit of friendly advice here... you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. just say goodnight and go watch some tv.

you can go to sleep if you want.

Shon, YOU'RE the one who brought your older brother into this. Just like you brought yourself, your husband, and my fiance into this discussion. You asked for it, you got it.

go melissa go!!!

(but remember that your logic will be lost on her ... she is fun to run circles around though!)

it was not me. it was one of your smart azz clans that brought in about blind and deaf people.

I asked was they insulting my brother!

Yeah, since everyone knows him and all that was definitely directed at him. But wait-is your brother real or is he made up like you? What pops out of his box? A bunny or something else?

oooooo..I am kind of thinking that Shon doesn't even have a fiance.....

y'know...I have said I hate VJ backlash.......but some just deserve it....not mentioning any names ......

Edited April 15, 2006 by welshcookie