October / November I-130 2007 Filers

[000 0]

I hope that is the case for everyone that is past or is almost at the 6 month mark.

[MsZ 6]

If I don't see something in the next 2 weeks I am going to do as I suggested above. Since we can't call to get attention, resubmitting the paperwork with the NOA1 and a letter asking if somehow they misplaced the original documents or filed them incorrectly or god knows what and that the received date was to be honored, not the NOA1 date and therefore could they please ensure that the application is put in the proper order for review, seems all we can do. If we use their processing times, we'll have to wait for several months to be able to even talk to them (legally) on the phone.

If they lost (misplaced) files, would they admit it? And would they be forthcoming or would we have to ask and then, what constitutes a legal time to ask? (And if they find a December 2006 application sitting under a file nobody has looked at for a long time, will they change the date back to December 2006?? )

[shrewdgal 0]

If I don't see something in the next 2 weeks I am going to do as I suggested above. Since we can't call to get attention, resubmitting the paperwork with the NOA1 and a letter asking if somehow they misplaced the original documents or filed them incorrectly or god knows what and that the received date was to be honored, not the NOA1 date and therefore could they please ensure that the application is put in the proper order for review, seems all we can do. If we use their processing times, we'll have to wait for several months to be able to even talk to them (legally) on the phone.

If they lost (misplaced) files, would they admit it? And would they be forthcoming or would we have to ask and then, what constitutes a legal time to ask? (And if they find a December 2006 application sitting under a file nobody has looked at for a long time, will they change the date back to December 2006?? )

well guys, I tried to call and get someone to talk ot me about my case and the automated system said that I needed to "submit the documents they requested"

which WAS NONE.

when I finally talked to someone they sent me back to the USCIS person (the computer did) and they didnt even see that on my file but then put me on hold and said that they would mail me the letter by may 18 telling what I needed.

I WANT TO DIE. I have waited for 6 months just to see that I might have an RFE. BULL SH*T

I am so mad.

I have heard of this happening to people and they didnt really need any info..so we will see.

I think I may call back and try to get someone from VSC.

[000 0]

Thats the part I hate, they can say whatever they want and no one can question them. They could say they are on 2005 and no one has the right to challenge them, as long as they say their dates are XX/XX/2005 even congress men cant say anything.

[MsZ 6]

She told you that you actually had an RFE? The automated system gives that canned message whether you have an RFE or not if you aren't actually in as having an RFE (as I understand it -- need to search on that.) So unless she confirmed that it says you have one, she might have been giving you a kiss off response and not an actual response.

[hyd617 1]

If I don't see something in the next 2 weeks I am going to do as I suggested above. Since we can't call to get attention, resubmitting the paperwork with the NOA1 and a letter asking if somehow they misplaced the original documents or filed them incorrectly or god knows what and that the received date was to be honored, not the NOA1 date and therefore could they please ensure that the application is put in the proper order for review, seems all we can do. If we use their processing times, we'll have to wait for several months to be able to even talk to them (legally) on the phone.

If they lost (misplaced) files, would they admit it? And would they be forthcoming or would we have to ask and then, what constitutes a legal time to ask? (And if they find a December 2006 application sitting under a file nobody has looked at for a long time, will they change the date back to December 2006?? )

well guys, I tried to call and get someone to talk ot me about my case and the automated system said that I needed to "submit the documents they requested"

which WAS NONE.

when I finally talked to someone they sent me back to the USCIS person (the computer did) and they didnt even see that on my file but then put me on hold and said that they would mail me the letter by may 18 telling what I needed.

I WANT TO DIE. I have waited for 6 months just to see that I might have an RFE. BULL SH*T

I am so mad.

I have heard of this happening to people and they didnt really need any info..so we will see.

I think I may call back and try to get someone from VSC.

omg shrewdie im so soryy to hear that.. well atleast u know after u submit ur RFE urs wil gett approved... but im kind of confused.. u didnt gget thru to VSC?? ur sayin the USCIS rep told u to wait til may to receive ur RFE? now this is bullshit that wil be ur 7th month.. then what another month ro so for approval? its ok ur one day close to being with ur husband... hang in there...

[000 0]

The message will say you have an RFE if you do or dont, it says You need to submit the evidence that has been requested no matter what. Unless you spoke with a vermont officer i wouldnt worry about it. USCIS has no information about your case at all, the only thing they can see is what you see online.

[shrewdgal 0]

She told you that you actually had an RFE? The automated system gives that canned message whether you have an RFE or not if you aren't actually in as having an RFE (as I understand it -- need to search on that.) So unless she confirmed that it says you have one, she might have been giving you a kiss off response and not an actual response.

well she was all like..getting my address and everything..so obviously she wasnt looking in my file or she would have known that already. and she put me on hold and was like.."I am making note that it needs to be mailed to you and blah blah..with an adjucator by may 18" and when I asked what it was she said "they need to mail you the letter because it is personal information"

she didnt even know my name

she took my receipt number first and then my zip code..then my name and then my address

if she looked up my file then shouldnt she have known all that already?

so what do you guys think?

do I have an RFE or no?

[LotofPatience 65]

If I don't see something in the next 2 weeks I am going to do as I suggested above. Since we can't call to get attention, resubmitting the paperwork with the NOA1 and a letter asking if somehow they misplaced the original documents or filed them incorrectly or god knows what and that the received date was to be honored, not the NOA1 date and therefore could they please ensure that the application is put in the proper order for review, seems all we can do. If we use their processing times, we'll have to wait for several months to be able to even talk to them (legally) on the phone.

If they lost (misplaced) files, would they admit it? And would they be forthcoming or would we have to ask and then, what constitutes a legal time to ask? (And if they find a December 2006 application sitting under a file nobody has looked at for a long time, will they change the date back to December 2006?? )

That's not true ! Once you file any application with USCIS, it is entered into their computer system, so that they can sort it out. It is not paper based system. You get the receipt notice of any application from their computer system. Sometimes, date goes back due to the reason (one guy got RFE and he/she sent the docs back to the USCIS and when they posted the date on the web site periodically, it was that bad guy's priority date), not because of one file sitting inside a drawer.

Why some people is getting approvals faster than others could be for many reasons:

1) Which officer handles the case

2) If the application is clean (with all required docs and completely filled forms)

3) If it is expedited case

4) And so many other unknown factors...

But personally, I don't like USCIS the way they work. Recently, they have made tremendous improvements such as speeding up FBI name check, adding additional staff (of course, with our money) etc. I know couple of my friends who are stuck in FBI name check for more than 2 year !!! FBI has to clear 300,000+ cases from the name check.

[shrewdgal 0]

If I don't see something in the next 2 weeks I am going to do as I suggested above. Since we can't call to get attention, resubmitting the paperwork with the NOA1 and a letter asking if somehow they misplaced the original documents or filed them incorrectly or god knows what and that the received date was to be honored, not the NOA1 date and therefore could they please ensure that the application is put in the proper order for review, seems all we can do. If we use their processing times, we'll have to wait for several months to be able to even talk to them (legally) on the phone.

If they lost (misplaced) files, would they admit it? And would they be forthcoming or would we have to ask and then, what constitutes a legal time to ask? (And if they find a December 2006 application sitting under a file nobody has looked at for a long time, will they change the date back to December 2006?? )

That's not true ! Once you file any application with USCIS, it is entered into their computer system, so that they can sort it out. It is not paper based system. You get the receipt notice of any application from their computer system. Sometimes, date goes back due to the reason (one guy got RFE and he/she sent the docs back to the USCIS and when they posted the date on the web site periodically, it was that bad guy's priority date), not because of one file sitting inside a drawer.

Why some people is getting approvals faster than others could be for many reasons:

1) Which officer handles the case

2) If the application is clean (with all required docs and completely filled forms)

3) If it is expedited case

4) And so many other unknown factors...

But personally, I don't like USCIS the way they work. Recently, they have made tremendous improvements such as speeding up FBI name check, adding additional staff (of course, with our money) etc. I know couple of my friends who are stuck in FBI name check for more than 2 year !!! FBI has to clear 300,000+ cases from the name check.

there is no way that all of us in october have the same "unknown factors" that we are all waiting 6 or more months to leave Vermont. seriously. they have just tossed us aside for other cases it seems.

[MsZ 6]

Their system was set up to expect the NOA1 date to be very close to the receipt date. Therefore it is very possible that they are looking at NOA1 dates which were January for many October people, rather than October for the RECEIPT date, which is when they physically received the file and which is indeed the date they said they would honor. So somewhere in their they have to deviate from their usual procedure of using the NOA date in order to handle these cases that were sent to the lock box from Vermont and then back to Vermont.

However, my comment about the file and date was clearly in jest, thus the jester icon.

Shrewd -- I do not think you have an RFE. Nope.

[shrewdgal 0]

She told you that you actually had an RFE? The automated system gives that canned message whether you have an RFE or not if you aren't actually in as having an RFE (as I understand it -- need to search on that.) So unless she confirmed that it says you have one, she might have been giving you a kiss off response and not an actual response.

well she was all like..getting my address and everything..so obviously she wasnt looking in my file or she would have known that already. and she put me on hold and was like.."I am making note that it needs to be mailed to you and blah blah..with an adjucator by may 18" and when I asked what it was she said "they need to mail you the letter because it is personal information"

she didnt even know my name

she took my receipt number first and then my zip code..then my name and then my address

if she looked up my file then shouldnt she have known all that already?

so what do you guys think?

do I have an RFE or no?

the more I think about it I think she has no clue. she just gave me a date that is 30 days beyond today.

I keep trying to call and get thru to VSC but "there is noone to take your call"

I bet they leave at 5... even though it says six!

[LotofPatience 65]

If I don't see something in the next 2 weeks I am going to do as I suggested above. Since we can't call to get attention, resubmitting the paperwork with the NOA1 and a letter asking if somehow they misplaced the original documents or filed them incorrectly or god knows what and that the received date was to be honored, not the NOA1 date and therefore could they please ensure that the application is put in the proper order for review, seems all we can do. If we use their processing times, we'll have to wait for several months to be able to even talk to them (legally) on the phone.

If they lost (misplaced) files, would they admit it? And would they be forthcoming or would we have to ask and then, what constitutes a legal time to ask? (And if they find a December 2006 application sitting under a file nobody has looked at for a long time, will they change the date back to December 2006?? )

That's not true ! Once you file any application with USCIS, it is entered into their computer system, so that they can sort it out. It is not paper based system. You get the receipt notice of any application from their computer system. Sometimes, date goes back due to the reason (one guy got RFE and he/she sent the docs back to the USCIS and when they posted the date on the web site periodically, it was that bad guy's priority date), not because of one file sitting inside a drawer.

Why some people is getting approvals faster than others could be for many reasons:

1) Which officer handles the case

2) If the application is clean (with all required docs and completely filled forms)

3) If it is expedited case

4) And so many other unknown factors...

But personally, I don't like USCIS the way they work. Recently, they have made tremendous improvements such as speeding up FBI name check, adding additional staff (of course, with our money) etc. I know couple of my friends who are stuck in FBI name check for more than 2 year !!! FBI has to clear 300,000+ cases from the name check.

there is no way that all of us in october have the same "unknown factors" that we are all waiting 6 or more months to leave Vermont. seriously. they have just tossed us aside for other cases it seems.

shrewdgal, you're right. USCIS is just like a black box, we never know those "unknown factors".

[LotofPatience 65]

She told you that you actually had an RFE? The automated system gives that canned message whether you have an RFE or not if you aren't actually in as having an RFE (as I understand it -- need to search on that.) So unless she confirmed that it says you have one, she might have been giving you a kiss off response and not an actual response.

well she was all like..getting my address and everything..so obviously she wasnt looking in my file or she would have known that already. and she put me on hold and was like.."I am making note that it needs to be mailed to you and blah blah..with an adjucator by may 18" and when I asked what it was she said "they need to mail you the letter because it is personal information"

she didnt even know my name

she took my receipt number first and then my zip code..then my name and then my address

if she looked up my file then shouldnt she have known all that already?

so what do you guys think?

do I have an RFE or no?

the more I think about it I think she has no clue. she just gave me a date that is 30 days beyond today.

I keep trying to call and get thru to VSC but "there is noone to take your call"

I bet they leave at 5... even though it says six!

First of all calling USCIS front desk officers (though they say they are officers with their badge#) are waste of time. They are bunch of school boys/girls who can read the computer screen Instead of we calling them, it is always better idea to involve a congressman/senator though it may not speed up the case ! Just a thought...

[hyd617 1]

She told you that you actually had an RFE? The automated system gives that canned message whether you have an RFE or not if you aren't actually in as having an RFE (as I understand it -- need to search on that.) So unless she confirmed that it says you have one, she might have been giving you a kiss off response and not an actual response.

well she was all like..getting my address and everything..so obviously she wasnt looking in my file or she would have known that already. and she put me on hold and was like.."I am making note that it needs to be mailed to you and blah blah..with an adjucator by may 18" and when I asked what it was she said "they need to mail you the letter because it is personal information"

she didnt even know my name

she took my receipt number first and then my zip code..then my name and then my address

if she looked up my file then shouldnt she have known all that already?

so what do you guys think?

do I have an RFE or no?

the more I think about it I think she has no clue. she just gave me a date that is 30 days beyond today.

I keep trying to call and get thru to VSC but "there is noone to take your call"

I bet they leave at 5... even though it says six!

LOL.. im not sure mayeb ur time difference shrewdie it may be 5 where u r but over there in vermont its prob 6? i dont knwo jus guessing... i dont think u have an RFE either.. but maybe the system was jus actin up? u never know.. i would say try again and make sure to get thru VSC.. and speak to an officer where they can actually lookup ur file with all ur info... ok..?