Republican Party's Position on Immigration Reform

[LuzyC 0]

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Edited November 7, 2007 by LuzyC

[GaryC 7]

Push polls suck Steven. It's dishonest on the part of the polling company.

I'm not debating poll numbers, Gary, but the position of the Republican Party on immigration. You've said that Bush doesn't represent the Party's position, but I've given more than ample supply of facts that show his position is right in line with the traditional position of the GOP. While the GOP certainly has room for different viewpoints on immigration, I think you've convinced yourself that your hardline stance on immigration is lock and step with the GOP's stance and it isn't nor has it been.

You have a short memory Steven. This isn't a dem vs rep thing. Don't you remember the quote you had in your siggy about who I would vote for? I will support whoever will get this under control regardless of party affiliation. Giving up and making them all legal isn't getting it under control, it's turning over the nut-house over to the lunatics. I will repeat it for the 100nth time. We need a clean sweep in Washington. I am not a hard line rep, I am a hard line conservative, and the conservative line is no amnesty and enforcement of our laws.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Push polls suck Steven. It's dishonest on the part of the polling company.

I'm not debating poll numbers, Gary, but the position of the Republican Party on immigration. You've said that Bush doesn't represent the Party's position, but I've given more than ample supply of facts that show his position is right in line with the traditional position of the GOP. While the GOP certainly has room for different viewpoints on immigration, I think you've convinced yourself that your hardline stance on immigration is lock and step with the GOP's stance and it isn't nor has it been.

You have a short memory Steven. This isn't a dem vs rep thing. Don't you remember the quote you had in your siggy about who I would vote for? I will support whoever will get this under control regardless of party affiliation. Giving up and making them all legal isn't getting it under control, it's turning over the nut-house over to the lunatics. I will repeat it for the 100nth time. We need a clean sweep in Washington. I am not a hard line rep, I am a hard line conservative, and the conservative line is no amnesty and enforcement of our laws.

gary for president!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Push polls suck Steven. It's dishonest on the part of the polling company.

I'm not debating poll numbers, Gary, but the position of the Republican Party on immigration. You've said that Bush doesn't represent the Party's position, but I've given more than ample supply of facts that show his position is right in line with the traditional position of the GOP. While the GOP certainly has room for different viewpoints on immigration, I think you've convinced yourself that your hardline stance on immigration is lock and step with the GOP's stance and it isn't nor has it been.

You have a short memory Steven. This isn't a dem vs rep thing. Don't you remember the quote you had in your siggy about who I would vote for? I will support whoever will get this under control regardless of party affiliation. Giving up and making them all legal isn't getting it under control, it's turning over the nut-house over to the lunatics. I will repeat it for the 100nth time. We need a clean sweep in Washington. I am not a hard line rep, I am a hard line conservative, and the conservative line is no amnesty and enforcement of our laws.

Oye, Gary. The simple fact is the traditional conservative view on immigration is not what you're espousing. Again I ask, who's view on immigration represents the Republican Party's? Your's or Bush's/Romney/Giulian/McCain's?

Edited November 7, 2007 by Mister Fancypants

[GaryC 7]

Push polls suck Steven. It's dishonest on the part of the polling company.

I'm not debating poll numbers, Gary, but the position of the Republican Party on immigration. You've said that Bush doesn't represent the Party's position, but I've given more than ample supply of facts that show his position is right in line with the traditional position of the GOP. While the GOP certainly has room for different viewpoints on immigration, I think you've convinced yourself that your hardline stance on immigration is lock and step with the GOP's stance and it isn't nor has it been.

You have a short memory Steven. This isn't a dem vs rep thing. Don't you remember the quote you had in your siggy about who I would vote for? I will support whoever will get this under control regardless of party affiliation. Giving up and making them all legal isn't getting it under control, it's turning over the nut-house over to the lunatics. I will repeat it for the 100nth time. We need a clean sweep in Washington. I am not a hard line rep, I am a hard line conservative, and the conservative line is no amnesty and enforcement of our laws.

Oye, Gary. The simple fact is the traditional conservative view on immigration is not what you're espousing. Again I ask, who's view on immigration represents the Republican Party's? Your's or Bush's/Romney/Giulian/McCain's?

I don't care who's view represents the republican line. I only care who represents my line. I will vote for who best represents me. Why, do you only vote for who best espouses your liberal/progressive line? Who best represents it? Clinton, Oboma, Edwards, Gravel ect?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Push polls suck Steven. It's dishonest on the part of the polling company.

I'm not debating poll numbers, Gary, but the position of the Republican Party on immigration. You've said that Bush doesn't represent the Party's position, but I've given more than ample supply of facts that show his position is right in line with the traditional position of the GOP. While the GOP certainly has room for different viewpoints on immigration, I think you've convinced yourself that your hardline stance on immigration is lock and step with the GOP's stance and it isn't nor has it been.

You have a short memory Steven. This isn't a dem vs rep thing. Don't you remember the quote you had in your siggy about who I would vote for? I will support whoever will get this under control regardless of party affiliation. Giving up and making them all legal isn't getting it under control, it's turning over the nut-house over to the lunatics. I will repeat it for the 100nth time. We need a clean sweep in Washington. I am not a hard line rep, I am a hard line conservative, and the conservative line is no amnesty and enforcement of our laws.

Oye, Gary. The simple fact is the traditional conservative view on immigration is not what you're espousing. Again I ask, who's view on immigration represents the Republican Party's? Your's or Bush's/Romney/Giulian/McCain's?

I don't care who's view represents the republican line. I only care who represents my line. I will vote for who best represents me. Why, do you only vote for who best espouses your liberal/progressive line? Who best represents it? Clinton, Oboma, Edwards, Gravel ect?

Thats Bush's position, not the reps.

....that's what you said in post #9 of this thread.

Gary, the argument isn't over whether or not you should be lock and step with your Party, but you and many others continue to frame the debate as if your rigid approach to immigration is mainstream with others who consider themselves 'conservative'. That fact is, your viewpoint is NOT representative of what has been the traditional conservative viewpoint on immigration.

As the WSJ stated.... "American conservatives....longstanding position favoring open immigration."

and they go on to say... "Contrary to what you hear on talk radio and cable news, polls continue to show that the conservative silent majority is pro-immigration, and that it supports a guest-worker program as the only practical and humane way to moderate the foreign labor flow."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/fe...ml?id=110008632