U.S. citizen arrested under state's new anti-illegal immigrant law, Hispanic advocate says

[Jasman0717 8]

The woman was arrested for transporting her boyfriend, who was an illegal alien

That is a criminal act to me

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Does it not occur to you that KILLING people just might be a little bit overboard????

What is an acceptable level of force to repel a threat to the territorial integrity and sovereignty of a nation?

[kerewin21 2]

I tried to edit my message, but ran out of time.

Just because I think illegal immigrants are human beings does not mean that I condone their actions. I don't think that killing them or tying them up and strewing them across the border as an example to other would-be immigrants is a viable solution to the problem. Yes, I think they should go home. And I think many of them WILL go home if we make the financial rewards of being here less appealing. Increase oversight of employers. Create a worker identification system that actually works, instead of using the social security system where you can buy the number of someone who is dead and use it to work with. Dry up the underground economies. Not everyone will go home if this is done, but some will, and less people will want to come. It's a place to start, and is a more viable option than attempting to find every single one and send them home.

[Ban Hammer 12,915]

I tried to edit my message, but ran out of time.

Just because I think illegal immigrants are human beings does not mean that I condone their actions. I don't think that killing them or tying them up and strewing them across the border as an example to other would-be immigrants is a viable solution to the problem. Yes, I think they should go home. And I think many of them WILL go home if we make the financial rewards of being here less appealing. Increase oversight of employers. Create a worker identification system that actually works, instead of using the social security system where you can buy the number of someone who is dead and use it to work with. Dry up the underground economies. Not everyone will go home if this is done, but some will, and less people will want to come. It's a place to start, and is a more viable option than attempting to find every single one and send them home.

so i can list you as being against mexico's methods then, right?

[kerewin21 2]

I tried to edit my message, but ran out of time.

Just because I think illegal immigrants are human beings does not mean that I condone their actions. I don't think that killing them or tying them up and strewing them across the border as an example to other would-be immigrants is a viable solution to the problem. Yes, I think they should go home. And I think many of them WILL go home if we make the financial rewards of being here less appealing. Increase oversight of employers. Create a worker identification system that actually works, instead of using the social security system where you can buy the number of someone who is dead and use it to work with. Dry up the underground economies. Not everyone will go home if this is done, but some will, and less people will want to come. It's a place to start, and is a more viable option than attempting to find every single one and send them home.

so i can list you as being against mexico's methods then, right?

I did misread GEG's post. However, people on this forum have applauded these efforts in the past.

[Ban Hammer 12,915]

I tried to edit my message, but ran out of time.

Just because I think illegal immigrants are human beings does not mean that I condone their actions. I don't think that killing them or tying them up and strewing them across the border as an example to other would-be immigrants is a viable solution to the problem. Yes, I think they should go home. And I think many of them WILL go home if we make the financial rewards of being here less appealing. Increase oversight of employers. Create a worker identification system that actually works, instead of using the social security system where you can buy the number of someone who is dead and use it to work with. Dry up the underground economies. Not everyone will go home if this is done, but some will, and less people will want to come. It's a place to start, and is a more viable option than attempting to find every single one and send them home.

so i can list you as being against mexico's methods then, right?

I did misread GEG's post. However, people on this forum have applauded these efforts in the past.

if you say so.

[natty bumppo 289]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

It will also mean my source of cheap labor will dry up. I had some work done on the house this weekend at 25% the cost of a licensed and insured American quote. So with all due respect, go fukc yourself, my self interest comes before the safety and security and sovereignty of this great nation.

[Ban Hammer 12,915]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

It will also mean my source of cheap labor will dry up. I had some work done on the house this weekend at 25% the cost of a licensed and insured American quote. So with all due respect, go fukc yourself, my self interest comes before the safety and security and sovereignty of this great nation.

you'll just have to hire tony soprano then

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

It will also mean my source of cheap labor will dry up. I had some work done on the house this weekend at 25% the cost of a licensed and insured American quote. So with all due respect, go fukc yourself, my self interest comes before the safety and security and sovereignty of this great nation.

you'll just have to hire tony soprano then

Goombahs don't come cheap no more. Those days are over.

[natty bumppo 289]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

It will also mean my source of cheap labor will dry up. I had some work done on the house this weekend at 25% the cost of a licensed and insured American quote. So with all due respect, go fukc yourself, my self interest comes before the safety and security and sovereignty of this great nation.

So you are part of the problem with getting my wife here ...

I hope your repairs require warranty ... reap what you sow .. .and pass the ammunition !!!!

Edited November 6, 2007 by Natty Bumppo

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

It will also mean my source of cheap labor will dry up. I had some work done on the house this weekend at 25% the cost of a licensed and insured American quote. So with all due respect, go fukc yourself, my self interest comes before the safety and security and sovereignty of this great nation.

What loser needs insurance? Woot!!! Cheap labor!!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Maybe the USA should use the Mexico approach to invaders ... here's my $50 for enforcement policy (ammunition) !!!

This is Mexico standards .. yes ???

It will send a message ... don't come here ...

It will also mean my source of cheap labor will dry up. I had some work done on the house this weekend at 25% the cost of a licensed and insured American quote. So with all due respect, go fukc yourself, my self interest comes before the safety and security and sovereignty of this great nation.

So you are part of the problem with getting my wife here ...

I hope your repairs require warranty ... reap what you sow.

[sparkofcreation 0]

I don't break the immigration laws ... so I have nothing to fear ... do you ?

Yes. I fear being the victim of a crime committed by someone who's committed a string of crimes before this, except that everyone who was a victim or witness before me happened to be an illegal immigrant, so someone who otherwise would have been locked up is out on the streets hurting more people.

I can't believe people think that making crime victims and witnesses too afraid to come forward is a good thing. If you get robbed or beaten or raped and they never catch the guy because there are no witnesses willing to cooperate with the investigation, you'll have only yourself to blame.

[natty bumppo 289]

I don't break the immigration laws ... so I have nothing to fear ... do you ?

Yes. I fear being the victim of a crime committed by someone who's committed a string of crimes before this, except that everyone who was a victim or witness before me happened to be an illegal immigrant, so someone who otherwise would have been locked up is out on the streets hurting more people.

I can't believe people think that making crime victims and witnesses too afraid to come forward is a good thing. If you get robbed or beaten or raped and they never catch the guy because there are no witnesses willing to cooperate with the investigation, you'll have only yourself to blame.

So you are a victim of a crime committed by an illegal? How does this make you a criminal?

And those who are victims as an illegal by an illegal ... Unfortunately you need to report and be deported. That is your protection.

You both were ILLEGAL ... and got caught tangled with a fellow illegal doing a crime.

So ... the person got caught by a one of their own. It's simple ... both of you ... go home.