Anger at USCIS and security

[Jasman0717 9]

Under Reagan, it took 6 weeks to bring your spouse or children here. Under the administrations that followed, it takes a few weeks to bring employees here and months to keep your family together.

Unfortunately a lot has happened since the 80s

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Illegals are easy to find- just go to Home Depot and Lowes.

That's really unnecessary.

Unnecessary maybe but not untrue.

What's the point?

The point was simply that the statement, while maybe unnecessary, was not untrue. I thought that was pretty clear.

Anti-immigrant is anti-immigrant.

Thank you for drawing my attention to the obvious. Red is red. Blue is blue. Now I've got to ask: What's the point?

And yes, I'm just messin' with you.

It feeds the ugliness in mainstream America over immigration, which comes back to bite everybody who immigrates in the butt. Legal or illegal entry.

On this one, however, I do think you're underestimating the capabilities of America and Americans to differentiate.

Maybe. But not a lot.

I'm of the opinion that since most of America doesn't fully comprehend the immigration bureaucracy, they can't understand why so many people go illegal.

I'm also of the opinion that most of America doesn't care if you are a legal or an illegal entrant when it comes to American jobs being 'taken away' by non-citizens.

I really believe that when we who are married to immigrants speak negatively of other foreign born persons, we give off some pretty weird signals.

We must live in different Americas. Or hang with different crowds.

[Ban Hammer 13,465]

Maybe. But not a lot.

I'm of the opinion that since most of America doesn't fully comprehend the immigration bereaucracy, they can't understand why so many people go illegal.

I'm also of the opinion that most of America doesn't care if you are a legal or an illegal entrant when it comes to American jobs being 'taken away' by non-citizens.

I really believe that when we who are married to immigrants speak negatively of other foreign born persons, we give off some pretty weird signals.

no one i know confuses illegal with legal. and everyone i know is quite aware of my opinion regarding illegals........

[rebeccajo 14]

*shrugs*

Keep telling yourself it doesn't matter if you talk smack about immigrants.

After all, the laws that are written - fueled off the misconceptions of middle America about immigrants - won't affect your family, will it?

[Jason-Sasha 1]

There's a huge difference between legal and illegal. And any American who doesn't understand this is just plain ignorant. And if I live my life worried about what some hick is thinking....well, that's not really living is it? As a law biding citizen bringing a foreign born fiancee to live with me here, I'm completely against illegal immigration. Period. There's a huge difference. What other people think doesn't matter to me at all. How my government views my foreign born spouse...well, this does matter.

[rebeccajo 14]

There's a huge difference between legal and illegal. And any American who doesn't understand this is just plain ignorant. And if I live my life worried about what some hick is thinking....well, that's not really living is it? As a law biding citizen bringing a foreign born fiancee to live with me here, I'm completely against illegal immigration. Period. There's a huge difference. What other people think doesn't matter to me at all. How my government views my foreign born spouse...well, this does matter.

Excuse me?

[no name 1]

If you don't think there is a difference between ilegal & illegal immigration - or more importantly - that most Americans don't know the difference, you are sadly mistaken. :blink:

Edited October 31, 2007 by devilette

[no name 1]

I'm of the opinion that since most of America doesn't fully comprehend the immigration bereaucracy, they can't understand why so many people go illegal.

People come to the US illegally because they have no desire to go legal. Or even try. Grass = greener & all that.

I'm also of the opinion that most of America doesn't care if you are a legal or an illegal entrant when it comes to American jobs being 'taken away' by non-citizens.

Not in my world. Every single job J has applied for he has been asked for proof of his legal status. I, too, am being asked if I can prove I am legal to work when I apply for jobs. And these are professional jobs that require certifications/degrees - not McDonald's. He is considered a catch because of his international experience not a threat to Americans whose job he might 'steal'.

[rebeccajo 14]

I'm of the opinion that since most of America doesn't fully comprehend the immigration bereaucracy, they can't understand why so many people go illegal.

People come to the US illegally because they have no desire to go legal. Or even try. Grass = greener & all that.

I'm also of the opinion that most of America doesn't care if you are a legal or an illegal entrant when it comes to American jobs being 'taken away' by non-citizens.

Not in my world. Every single job J has applied for he has been asked for proof of his legal status. I, too, am being asked if I can prove I am legal to work when I apply for jobs. And these are professional jobs that require certifications/degrees - not McDonald's. He is considered a catch because of his international experience not a threat to Americans whose job he might 'steal'.

I disagree about the entry bit. I'm unconvinced that all these scorned illegal entrants would choose coming over here illegally over legally IF there were a legal vehicle for them to enter.

As far as what most of America thinks - I believe that when you discuss any behavior amongst a category of people negatively, you risk pigeon-holing all of them negatively. I fear that much of the negative chatter in the media about illegal immigrants can lead to public policy that will make life for our spouses legally difficult in this nation.

[Mags 112]

I've shopped in Lowes. I've shopped in Home Depot. I've not seen ONE single person who was not from this country. To assume that these stores are full of illegals is just poor form, imo. If I worked in Home Depot or Lowes I'd be pretty pissed at a comment like that which assumes that most people who work in one of those stores must be of illegal origin.

Please think before you make comments such as those. Thanks.

Edited October 31, 2007 by Mags

[MissStacey 1]

I've shopped in Lowes. I've shopped in Home Depot. I've not seen ONE single person who was not from this country. To assume that these stores are full of illegals is just poor form, imo. If I worked in Home Depot or Lowes I'd be pretty pissed at a comment like that which assumes that most people who work in one of those stores must be of illegal origin.

Please think before you make comments such as those. Thanks.

The stores themselves are not full of illegals- they hang out outside the store and in the parking lots hoping someone will come along and offer them some work.

My comment was a fact- This is where they are in Louisiana.

Edited October 31, 2007 by Stacey33

[Ban Hammer 13,465]

If you don't think there is a difference between ilegal & illegal immigration - or more importantly - that most Americans don't know the difference, you are sadly mistaken. :blink:

once again, i find myself agreeing with dev. i..........must...........stop.........doing........this!

*wanders off to see if there is a blue moon*

I've shopped in Lowes. I've shopped in Home Depot. I've not seen ONE single person who was not from this country. To assume that these stores are full of illegals is just poor form, imo. If I worked in Home Depot or Lowes I'd be pretty pissed at a comment like that which assumes that most people who work in one of those stores must be of illegal origin.

Please think before you make comments such as those. Thanks.

The stores themselves are not full of illegals- they hang out outside the store and in the parking lots hoping someone will come along and offer them some work.

My comment was a fact- This is where they are in Louisiana.

where they hang out varies, generally around a store like home depot or lowes is not unusual. and i'd call it pretty smart on their part - you can pick up all the stuff you need for that home project including the labor in one stop.

[joelunchbox 0]

I've shopped in Lowes. I've shopped in Home Depot. I've not seen ONE single person who was not from this country. To assume that these stores are full of illegals is just poor form, imo. If I worked in Home Depot or Lowes I'd be pretty pissed at a comment like that which assumes that most people who work in one of those stores must be of illegal origin.

Please think before you make comments such as those. Thanks.

The stores themselves are not full of illegals- they hang out outside the store and in the parking lots hoping someone will come along and offer them some work.

My comment was a fact- This is where they are in Louisiana.

Wow, where are the americans looking for work. Typically, if I see an american standing around he is looking for a handout. Maybe we are shipping the wrong group out??

[Kez/JWolf 6]

I've shopped in Lowes. I've shopped in Home Depot. I've not seen ONE single person who was not from this country. To assume that these stores are full of illegals is just poor form, imo. If I worked in Home Depot or Lowes I'd be pretty pissed at a comment like that which assumes that most people who work in one of those stores must be of illegal origin.

Please think before you make comments such as those. Thanks.

The stores themselves are not full of illegals- they hang out outside the store and in the parking lots hoping someone will come along and offer them some work.

My comment was a fact- This is where they are in Louisiana.

Wow, where are the americans looking for work. Typically, if I see an american standing around he is looking for a handout. Maybe we are shipping the wrong group out??

Yep I have to agree, only groups of people I see hanging around on street corners is American's looking for a free hand out.... and the majority of americans dont complain about legal and illegal immigrants they just complain about Immigrants.... when the big rallies were happening last year the press did not list them as ILLEGAL Immigrants they just listed them as immigrants.... To this day I still meet people who belive that if you are married to a USC then you become a citizen automatically.... when I explain to them that NO it does not work like that and explain the process to get from entry to citizenship they are amazed...

I have been told by at least 4 people that I have stolen a job from an American..... sadly there are a lot of people who think just like them... they dont care if you have a greencard or not, you are just another Immigrant to them....

Kez

[rebeccajo 14]

I've shopped in Lowes. I've shopped in Home Depot. I've not seen ONE single person who was not from this country. To assume that these stores are full of illegals is just poor form, imo. If I worked in Home Depot or Lowes I'd be pretty pissed at a comment like that which assumes that most people who work in one of those stores must be of illegal origin.

Please think before you make comments such as those. Thanks.

The stores themselves are not full of illegals- they hang out outside the store and in the parking lots hoping someone will come along and offer them some work.

My comment was a fact- This is where they are in Louisiana.

Wow, where are the americans looking for work. Typically, if I see an american standing around he is looking for a handout. Maybe we are shipping the wrong group out??

Yep I have to agree, only groups of people I see hanging around on street corners is American's looking for a free hand out.... and the majority of americans dont complain about legal and illegal immigrants they just complain about Immigrants.... when the big rallies were happening last year the press did not list them as ILLEGAL Immigrants they just listed them as immigrants.... To this day I still meet people who belive that if you are married to a USC then you become a citizen automatically.... when I explain to them that NO it does not work like that and explain the process to get from entry to citizenship they are amazed...

I have been told by at least 4 people that I have stolen a job from an American..... sadly there are a lot of people who think just like them... they dont care if you have a greencard or not, you are just another Immigrant to them....

Kez

Were they 'hicks'?