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It is my hope that maybe within the next few generations, there will have been so much mixing of races (whatever race is... ), the majority of people will be of a multi-racial heritage (if they aren't already...), and the entire issue will just become obsolete.

I'm trying to do my part! :P

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There are huge genetic differences between races, as well within races, and it's

not entirely a stretch to suggest that some races or groups within the same race

may be more intelligent (on average) than others due to these differences.

you said that there are huge genetic differences between races, as well as within races...this much is true, but when people say that there is no biological basis for race, they are saying that the variation within races is equal to the variation between races...just because you are of the same race as someone else, doesnt mean that you are more likely to carry the same genes as them

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It is my hope that maybe within the next few generations, there will have been so much mixing of races (whatever race is... ), the majority of people will be of a multi-racial heritage (if they aren't already...), and the entire issue will just become obsolete.

I'm trying to do my part! :P

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it will the next generations will all be in a latte-like brown colored skin.. and I know a lot of people that ain't very happy about that fact.. i guess PWNED

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Race comparison I think it's only an American thing, I've never seen other countries trying to differentiate everything by race, what they do, how they do it, if they graduated high school, if they have 3 kids or 4.. at the end, all of them are Americans.. I don't know why it is so important to see if white people graduate from college or if 40% of african americans will be in jail or shot before they're 18 years old.. to be more technical, I don't think other languages than english uses races referring to humans, in spanish is to refer to animal breeds.. like dogs.. not among people.. I don't think other english speaking countries do this as much as in the USA.. I don;t think there's african-english people or hispano-canadians.. LOL

I agree with you, Pedroh, and I think (though by no means am I justifying it) that this stems from a need to "belong." Oh, I'm Portuguese/Irish/Native American....twice removed, or W/E. Especially among Anglo-Americans (is that the correct term? Hee hee) when there's no defining cultural characteristics, there is a need to belong. I know in my daughter's elementary school they always have a "culture" day and night. Every year comes the question "What are we Mom?" We're American honey. That's it. I can trace my family back to different countries, but ultimately I'm American and that is it. I know that my SO says, well, his family didn't originate in Germany, but for all intents and purposes, they're German. They don't go around tracing ancestry to say they are French/Hungarian Germans, etc.

Did that make any sense?

It is my hope that maybe within the next few generations, there will have been so much mixing of races (whatever race is... ), the majority of people will be of a multi-racial heritage (if they aren't already...), and the entire issue will just become obsolete.

I'm trying to do my part! :P

Maya

Right on Maya! Aren't we all trying :)

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Race comparison I think it's only an American thing, I've never seen other countries trying to differentiate everything by race, what they do, how they do it, if they graduated high school, if they have 3 kids or 4.. at the end, all of them are Americans.. I don't know why it is so important to see if white people graduate from college or if 40% of african americans will be in jail or shot before they're 18 years old.. to be more technical, I don't think other languages than english uses races referring to humans, in spanish is to refer to animal breeds.. like dogs.. not among people.. I don't think other english speaking countries do this as much as in the USA.. I don;t think there's african-english people or hispano-canadians.. LOL

I agree with you, Pedroh, and I think (though by no means am I justifying it) that this stems from a need to "belong." Oh, I'm Portuguese/Irish/Native American....twice removed, or W/E. Especially among Anglo-Americans (is that the correct term? Hee hee) when there's no defining cultural characteristics, there is a need to belong. I know in my daughter's elementary school they always have a "culture" day and night. Every year comes the question "What are we Mom?" We're American honey. That's it. I can trace my family back to different countries, but ultimately I'm American and that is it. I know that my SO says, well, his family didn't originate in Germany, but for all intents and purposes, they're German. They don't go around tracing ancestry to say they are French/Hungarian Germans, etc.

Did that make any sense?

It is my hope that maybe within the next few generations, there will have been so much mixing of races (whatever race is... ), the majority of people will be of a multi-racial heritage (if they aren't already...), and the entire issue will just become obsolete.

I'm trying to do my part! :P

Maya

Right on Maya! Aren't we all trying :)

I understand the need to belong to a group, especially when you live in another country, but again, I don't see what's the big deal with Americans trying to trace every single 'root' they can have.. I've listened "I'm 1/8 polish, 1/4 black, 1/3 irish and 1.000000005% german'.. I mean, they are all Americans, I don't see what's the problem with just being american...

In my travels I've never seen, I dunno, germans saying 'Im 30% teuton, 40% saxon and 10% other' or LatinAmericans, which are mixed since centuries ago going 'im 50% spanish, 30 portuguese and 20% indigenous'. In my case, Mexicans are just Mexicans, not anglo-mexicans, hispano-mexicans, or anything like that..

You're right mostly anglos I guess are the ones who are trying to belong, and they get all wannabe with it, u see noobs going 'Im Irish!', oh, are you?? LOL, and u were born in the freakin boondocks here.. I mean.. there's nothing wrong to be proud of being just American.. yeah, its great to carry the traditions of your relatives when they moved to the US, but that's different than becoming all obsessive with 'race' and see who does better what..

I mean, what's the purpose of knowing that, asians have better grades than other minorities, or that white americans do this, or that hispanic-americans do that, I don't see the point, rather than just to belittle other nationalities, not 'help them' or 'fix traits'

my wife asks me, so what are you gonna tell ur son, that he is a mexican-american, or american only? well. he's gonna be an american, period.. if he wants to be proud of his mexican heritage, that's different..

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Race comparison I think it's only an American thing, I've never seen other countries trying to differentiate everything by race, what they do, how they do it, if they graduated high school, if they have 3 kids or 4.. at the end, all of them are Americans.. I don't know why it is so important to see if white people graduate from college or if 40% of african americans will be in jail or shot before they're 18 years old.. to be more technical, I don't think other languages than english uses races referring to humans, in spanish is to refer to animal breeds.. like dogs.. not among people.. I don't think other english speaking countries do this as much as in the USA.. I don;t think there's african-english people or hispano-canadians.. LOL

I agree with you, Pedroh, and I think (though by no means am I justifying it) that this stems from a need to "belong." Oh, I'm Portuguese/Irish/Native American....twice removed, or W/E. Especially among Anglo-Americans (is that the correct term? Hee hee) when there's no defining cultural characteristics, there is a need to belong. I know in my daughter's elementary school they always have a "culture" day and night. Every year comes the question "What are we Mom?" We're American honey. That's it. I can trace my family back to different countries, but ultimately I'm American and that is it. I know that my SO says, well, his family didn't originate in Germany, but for all intents and purposes, they're German. They don't go around tracing ancestry to say they are French/Hungarian Germans, etc.

Did that make any sense?

It is my hope that maybe within the next few generations, there will have been so much mixing of races (whatever race is... ), the majority of people will be of a multi-racial heritage (if they aren't already...), and the entire issue will just become obsolete.

I'm trying to do my part! :P

Maya

Right on Maya! Aren't we all trying :)

I understand the need to belong to a group, especially when you live in another country, but again, I don't see what's the big deal with Americans trying to trace every single 'root' they can have.. I've listened "I'm 1/8 polish, 1/4 black, 1/3 irish and 1.000000005% german'.. I mean, they are all Americans, I don't see what's the problem with just being american...

In my travels I've never seen, I dunno, germans saying 'Im 30% teuton, 40% saxon and 10% other' or LatinAmericans, which are mixed since centuries ago going 'im 50% spanish, 30 portuguese and 20% indigenous'. In my case, Mexicans are just Mexicans, not anglo-mexicans, hispano-mexicans, or anything like that..

You're right mostly anglos I guess are the ones who are trying to belong, and they get all wannabe with it, u see noobs going 'Im Irish!', oh, are you?? LOL, and u were born in the freakin boondocks here.. I mean.. there's nothing wrong to be proud of being just American.. yeah, its great to carry the traditions of your relatives when they moved to the US, but that's different than becoming all obsessive with 'race' and see who does better what..

I mean, what's the purpose of knowing that, asians have better grades than other minorities, or that white americans do this, or that hispanic-americans do that, I don't see the point, rather than just to belittle other nationalities, not 'help them' or 'fix traits'

my wife asks me, so what are you gonna tell ur son, that he is a mexican-american, or american only? well. he's gonna be an american, period.. if he wants to be proud of his mexican heritage, that's different..

and that's all any other American is trying to do too...to be proud...is that such a big deal? I grew up with ethnic customs brought over from "the old country". I LOVE those customs. Why should I give those up just because someone doesn't like it that I consider myself of a certain descent?

There is an American identity crisis sometimes, because you can't claim to have any ethnic heritage, and yet if you are too proud to be American, you are seen as beeing too nationalistic....can't win for trying. -_-

And what happens when there are no more "culture days", no more ethnic pride celebrations, and all of the great ethnic influences are gone...? Well that's sad to me.

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LOL! I love how he tries to equate statistics about Black Americans (babies born out of wedlock) with genetic predisposition for it. I assume most people with a high school education can see through that. Or maybe a non-U.S. high school education...

Groovy....Another typical statement from a self loathing American ultra-liberal that apologized to the world by making ridiculous comments about their own country. How quaint.

We can't generalize about race, but we paint a wide swath about nationality. :blink:

no, he's not hatin' on the nationality, but rather on the quality of the school system..

but yea, the 'baby daddy' phenomenom I don't think its a 'genetic predisposition' that's ridiculous.. that's just bad parenting..

A John Kerry moment?

Sure...I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt. I've made a few ambiguous posts in my life too. ;)

LOL! I love how he tries to equate statistics about Black Americans (babies born out of wedlock) with genetic predisposition for it. I assume most people with a high school education can see through that. Or maybe a non-U.S. high school education...

Groovy....Another typical statement from a self loathing American ultra-liberal that apologized to the world by making ridiculous comments about their own country. How quaint.

We can't generalize about race, but we paint a wide swath about nationality. :blink:

good lord! stereotype much? :huh:

At least my stereotype doesn't encompass a whole nation. Ultra-Liberals make up at most 10% of the US population. ;)

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And what happens when there are no more "culture days", no more ethnic pride celebrations, and all of the great ethnic influences are gone...? Well that's sad to me.

maybe then we'll finally get around to celebrating unity instead of diversity.........

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Race comparison I think it's only an American thing, I've never seen other countries trying to differentiate everything by race, what they do, how they do it, if they graduated high school, if they have 3 kids or 4.. at the end, all of them are Americans.. I don't know why it is so important to see if white people graduate from college or if 40% of african americans will be in jail or shot before they're 18 years old.. to be more technical, I don't think other languages than english uses races referring to humans, in spanish is to refer to animal breeds.. like dogs.. not among people.. I don't think other english speaking countries do this as much as in the USA.. I don;t think there's african-english people or hispano-canadians.. LOL

I agree with you, Pedroh, and I think (though by no means am I justifying it) that this stems from a need to "belong." Oh, I'm Portuguese/Irish/Native American....twice removed, or W/E. Especially among Anglo-Americans (is that the correct term? Hee hee) when there's no defining cultural characteristics, there is a need to belong. I know in my daughter's elementary school they always have a "culture" day and night. Every year comes the question "What are we Mom?" We're American honey. That's it. I can trace my family back to different countries, but ultimately I'm American and that is it. I know that my SO says, well, his family didn't originate in Germany, but for all intents and purposes, they're German. They don't go around tracing ancestry to say they are French/Hungarian Germans, etc.

Did that make any sense?

It is my hope that maybe within the next few generations, there will have been so much mixing of races (whatever race is... ), the majority of people will be of a multi-racial heritage (if they aren't already...), and the entire issue will just become obsolete.

I'm trying to do my part! :P

Maya

Right on Maya! Aren't we all trying :)

I understand the need to belong to a group, especially when you live in another country, but again, I don't see what's the big deal with Americans trying to trace every single 'root' they can have.. I've listened "I'm 1/8 polish, 1/4 black, 1/3 irish and 1.000000005% german'.. I mean, they are all Americans, I don't see what's the problem with just being american...

In my travels I've never seen, I dunno, germans saying 'Im 30% teuton, 40% saxon and 10% other' or LatinAmericans, which are mixed since centuries ago going 'im 50% spanish, 30 portuguese and 20% indigenous'. In my case, Mexicans are just Mexicans, not anglo-mexicans, hispano-mexicans, or anything like that..

You're right mostly anglos I guess are the ones who are trying to belong, and they get all wannabe with it, u see noobs going 'Im Irish!', oh, are you?? LOL, and u were born in the freakin boondocks here.. I mean.. there's nothing wrong to be proud of being just American.. yeah, its great to carry the traditions of your relatives when they moved to the US, but that's different than becoming all obsessive with 'race' and see who does better what..

I mean, what's the purpose of knowing that, asians have better grades than other minorities, or that white americans do this, or that hispanic-americans do that, I don't see the point, rather than just to belittle other nationalities, not 'help them' or 'fix traits'

my wife asks me, so what are you gonna tell ur son, that he is a mexican-american, or american only? well. he's gonna be an american, period.. if he wants to be proud of his mexican heritage, that's different..

and that's all any other American is trying to do too...to be proud...is that such a big deal? I grew up with ethnic customs brought over from "the old country". I LOVE those customs. Why should I give those up just because someone doesn't like it that I consider myself of a certain descent?

There is an American identity crisis sometimes, because you can't claim to have any ethnic heritage, and yet if you are too proud to be American, you are seen as beeing too nationalistic....can't win for trying. -_-

And what happens when there are no more "culture days", no more ethnic pride celebrations, and all of the great ethnic influences are gone...? Well that's sad to me.

there's nothing wrong with continuing with the old country traditions, not at all.. but seems that some americans prefer to be some other nationality than their own.. when you ask someone what are you probly he's gonna say 'half irish 2/3ds german 1/9 thai' instead of, just American!.. and I think it's cool to be 'just American' because AMERICAn encompasses cultures from all around the world, not just 1 country, but everywhere!

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And what happens when there are no more "culture days", no more ethnic pride celebrations, and all of the great ethnic influences are gone...? Well that's sad to me.

maybe then we'll finally get around to celebrating unity instead of diversity.........

scary thought... I find it sad not to love diversity. I love what makes us different, part of which is our cultural influences. To wish them all away, to me, gives me a vision of watered down-ness.

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I understand the need to belong to a group, especially when you live in another country, but again, I don't see what's the big deal with Americans trying to trace every single 'root' they can have.. I've listened "I'm 1/8 polish, 1/4 black, 1/3 irish and 1.000000005% german'.. I mean, they are all Americans, I don't see what's the problem with just being american...

There is no problem with just being American. But usually this comes up when someone asks you about your heritage, so that kind of response would make sense. I really don't know anybody who goes around telling people that they're 1/16 Lithuanian just for the hell of it, you know? Also, usually the question is asked of people who do not look "just white", so the answer "I am American" in such cases is usually interpreted as a snide retort.

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And what happens when there are no more "culture days", no more ethnic pride celebrations, and all of the great ethnic influences are gone...? Well that's sad to me.

maybe then we'll finally get around to celebrating unity instead of diversity.........

scary thought... I find it sad not to love diversity. I love what makes us different, part of which is our cultural influences. To wish them all away, to me, gives me a vision of watered down-ness.

Pardon me, I have read some of your responses that were not loving at all. Towards diverse opinion that didnt agree with yours. :yes:

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there's nothing wrong with continuing with the old country traditions, not at all.. but seems that some americans prefer to be some other nationality than their own.. when you ask someone what are you probly he's gonna say 'half irish 2/3ds german 1/9 thai' instead of, just American!.. and I think it's cool to be 'just American' because AMERICAn encompasses cultures from all around the world, not just 1 country, but everywhere!

Yeah, I see what you mean, and most likely someday when we are all waterdown to "sameness", people will just say American and everyone will be happy with that because it WILL be rediculous to say 1/20th this, that, and the other, etc . We just haven't moved enough generations beyond having had parents and grandparents who immigrated here. Older nations who are hundreds and hundreds of years older than the US can do that with much greater ease, IMO. In my lifetime, I don't know that I'll ever want to give up that little bit I have that ties me to another place.... *shrug*.... I guess I'll be even more confused when I move to the UK and I won't be considered British most likely....

And what happens when there are no more "culture days", no more ethnic pride celebrations, and all of the great ethnic influences are gone...? Well that's sad to me.

maybe then we'll finally get around to celebrating unity instead of diversity.........

scary thought... I find it sad not to love diversity. I love what makes us different, part of which is our cultural influences. To wish them all away, to me, gives me a vision of watered down-ness.

Pardon me, I have read some of your responses that were not loving at all. Towards diverse opinion that didnt agree with yours. :yes:

ok, whatever... you aren't going to goad me... :lol:

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i have no issue with diversity as it makes america unique....every culutre brings some spice to the melting pot

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