could not get ssn ,will it be a problem for green card

[Trav and Chanok 0]

Hello,

We thought we were following the visajourney flow-chart process.

After arriving in US on K1 we waited 2 weeks and then applied for the SSN, we were told by SSN office that the card would be sent in the mail.

The following week we got married.

The card never arrived in the mail, 5 weeks later we went down to the SSN office and were told that the main office had requested more information and because we were now married that our status had changed and we were no longer K-1 and they would not be able to give SSN.

We also told by SSA officer that we did not need SSN to get driver license or share bank account. Today we tried to get driving permit but were denied due to not being under K-1 status and not having the SSN. We are now a bit frustrated in the time put into this and not getting any results.

We have spent hours waiting at SSN office and now the DMV. Will not progressing forward / getting drivers license or bank account change hurt us with getting greencard or are we just being to impatient?

Thanks for your comment Trav and Chanok

[YuAndDan 153]

NO SSN is not a requirement of AOS filing.

[TinTin and Samby 11]

Hello,

We thought we were following the visajourney flow-chart process.

After arriving in US on K1 we waited 2 weeks and then applied for the SSN, we were told by SSN office that the card would be sent in the mail.

The following week we got married.

The card never arrived in the mail, 5 weeks later we went down to the SSN office and were told that the main office had requested more information and because we were now married that our status had changed and we were no longer K-1 and they would not be able to give SSN.

We also told by SSA officer that we did not need SSN to get driver license or share bank account. Today we tried to get driving permit but were denied due to not being under K-1 status and not having the SSN. We are now a bit frustrated in the time put into this and not getting any results.

We have spent hours waiting at SSN office and now the DMV. Will not progressing forward / getting drivers license or bank account change hurt us with getting greencard or are we just being to impatient?

Thanks for your comment Trav and Chanok

Would you mind sharing in what state this was? Thank you.

[I'm Gone 60]

We thought we were following the visajourney flow-chart process.

After arriving in US on K1 we waited 2 weeks and then applied for the SSN, we were told by SSN office that the card would be sent in the mail.

The following week we got married.

The card never arrived in the mail, 5 weeks later we went down to the SSN office and were told that the main office had requested more information and because we were now married that our status had changed and we were no longer K-1 and they would not be able to give SSN.

Had you acted sooner, you may have been able to get an SSN based on the K-1 status using the I-94, but now it's too late.

From and including Friday, August 10, 2007 to, but not including Thursday, October 25, 2007

It is 76 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card to an individual that is within 14 days of his or her alien status expiring. Until the 76th day after entry an individual with K-1 status only needs to provide an unexpired I-94 showing current K-1 status to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

Once, an individual that entered the United States with K-1 status has been in the United States 76 days he or she will need another document, i.e. I-551, I-688B or I-766 to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500#C1

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

RM 00203.210 C. Procedure - Immigration Document as Evidence of Legal Name:

When issuing immigration documents, the Department of State and Department of Homeland Security issue them in the person’s legal name. The legal name is also generally the name in which the foreign passport was issued.

When an alien applies for an SSN card, we presume the name on the immigration document is the legal name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change, e.g., marriage, which occurred after the immigration document was issued.

RM 00203.210 Changing Numident Name Data:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

When an alien requests an SSN or replacement card, SSA must verify his or her documents/current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If the initial online verification is not possible through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, SSA may need to send a Form G-845 to the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security for manual verification.

Since 01/06/2007 Social Security field offices can submit an additional electronic online verification, which in the majority of applications eliminates the need to send a Form G-845 along with copies of the applicant’s immigration documents.

However, some applications still require a copy of the immigration document(s) being verified to be sent at the request of the Department of Homeland Security along with the Form G-845 for manual verification.

Note: If the applicant has changed his/her name after an immigration document, i.e. I-94, was issued, e.g., married and is now using the married name, but has not obtained a corrected immigration document showing the new name; this is not a name discrepancy for enumeration purposes, i.e. SAVE clearance, if the applicant can provide an acceptable legal name change document to establish the new name.

The 14 day status expiration limit for assigning an SSN and/or issuing a card applies even if an individual submitted his or her application before being within the 14 day period and entered the 14 day period while waiting for his or her status to be verified.

Edited October 24, 2007 by I Quit

[Jasman0717 9]

You won't be held up with the GC due to lack of SSN.

[Trav and Chanok 0]

Hello,

We thought we were following the visajourney flow-chart process.

After arriving in US on K1 we waited 2 weeks and then applied for the SSN, we were told by SSN office that the card would be sent in the mail.

The following week we got married.

The card never arrived in the mail, 5 weeks later we went down to the SSN office and were told that the main office had requested more information and because we were now married that our status had changed and we were no longer K-1 and they would not be able to give SSN.

We also told by SSA officer that we did not need SSN to get driver license or share bank account. Today we tried to get driving permit but were denied due to not being under K-1 status and not having the SSN. We are now a bit frustrated in the time put into this and not getting any results.

We have spent hours waiting at SSN office and now the DMV. Will not progressing forward / getting drivers license or bank account change hurt us with getting greencard or are we just being to impatient?

Thanks for your comment Trav and Chanok

Would you mind sharing in what state this was? Thank you.

We are in Alaska -

[Trav and Chanok 0]

We thought we were following the visajourney flow-chart process.

After arriving in US on K1 we waited 2 weeks and then applied for the SSN, we were told by SSN office that the card would be sent in the mail.

The following week we got married.

The card never arrived in the mail, 5 weeks later we went down to the SSN office and were told that the main office had requested more information and because we were now married that our status had changed and we were no longer K-1 and they would not be able to give SSN.

Had you acted sooner, you may have been able to get an SSN based on the K-1 status using the I-94, but now it's too late.

From and including Friday, August 10, 2007 to, but not including Thursday, October 25, 2007

It is 76 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card to an individual that is within 14 days of his or her alien status expiring. Until the 76th day after entry an individual with K-1 status only needs to provide an unexpired I-94 showing current K-1 status to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

Once, an individual that entered the United States with K-1 status has been in the United States 76 days he or she will need another document, i.e. I-551, I-688B or I-766 to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500#C1

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

RM 00203.210 C. Procedure - Immigration Document as Evidence of Legal Name:

When issuing immigration documents, the Department of State and Department of Homeland Security issue them in the person’s legal name. The legal name is also generally the name in which the foreign passport was issued.

When an alien applies for an SSN card, we presume the name on the immigration document is the legal name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change, e.g., marriage, which occurred after the immigration document was issued.

RM 00203.210 Changing Numident Name Data:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

When an alien requests an SSN or replacement card, SSA must verify his or her documents/current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If the initial online verification is not possible through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, SSA may need to send a Form G-845 to the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security for manual verification.

Since 01/06/2007 Social Security field offices can submit an additional electronic online verification, which in the majority of applications eliminates the need to send a Form G-845 along with copies of the applicant’s immigration documents.

However, some applications still require a copy of the immigration document(s) being verified to be sent at the request of the Department of Homeland Security along with the Form G-845 for manual verification.

Note: If the applicant has changed his/her name after an immigration document, i.e. I-94, was issued, e.g., married and is now using the married name, but has not obtained a corrected immigration document showing the new name; this is not a name discrepancy for enumeration purposes, i.e. SAVE clearance, if the applicant can provide an acceptable legal name change document to establish the new name.

The 14 day status expiration limit for assigning an SSN and/or issuing a card applies even if an individual submitted his or her application before being within the 14 day period and entered the 14 day period while waiting for his or her status to be verified.

Thank you for this information

It seems here in Anchorage that they believe quite firmly that once we are married we are no longer K1 and therefore they are not to issue a SSN. We showed our I-94 and tried to make our point we had printed the form RM 00203.500 as shown on the flowchart here. It didnt have any affect on the person we talked to there and here Supervisor was the one who stopped the process from being completed. If i think about this to long I do get a bit frustrated.

After the time we have put forth there and at the DMV with no results we are going to wait for AOS steps and work on things we can control.