Getting a social security number for non-working purpose.

[isabelle 0]

Hi, I’m a foreign student and I’m looking toward taking major in nursing, but since I do not have a social security number, I can't participate in clinical experience at hospital. Instructor said that if I get social security number I’ll be able to participate in clinical experience. Is there a type of social security number for educational purpose? If there is one, how can I get it?

Thanks.

[I'm Gone 60]

SSA will not assign a work authorized SSN to any F-1 student unless the student has:

-- Evidence of on-campus work from the designated school official

(DSO) AND evidence of employment from the on-campus employer; OR

-- Specific work authorization from the Department of Homeland

Security (DHS) in the form of an Employment Authorization Document

(EAD); OR

-- Authorization for curricular practical training (CPT) as evidenced

on the employment page (page 3) of the student's Form I-20 A-B,

Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant (F-1) Student Status.

This is in addition to the other evidentiary requirements that an F-1 student provide proof of age, identity and legal immigration status.

RM 00203.470 Evidence for SSN Card — Foreign Student (F-1 and M-1):

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203470

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. SSA cannot accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. When a person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, SSA can accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, e.g., a DHS document or passport.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes age on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

Primary identity evidence for an alien:

-- Form I-94, Arrival/departure Record in combination with an unexpired foreign passport

-- Form I-766, Employment Authorization card

-- Form I-688B, Employment Authorization card

Note: Document must be unexpired

You can find detailed information regarding evidence of identity for an SSN Card on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

Form I-94 showing current F-1 status establishes evidence of immigration status and the SEVIS Form I-20 A-B, “Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant Student Status” is evidence of maintaining student status.

If a student transfers to a different school after admission to the United States, he/she must have an I-20 from the new transfer school. The new I-20 will not have a DHS stamp on it but will show the “transfer completed” date in item 9 “Remarks” of the I-20.

For general on-campus employment a student who does not have an EAD, i.e. I-766 or I-688B, must submit:

(1) Evidence from the school the F-1 student attends that identifies the on-campus employer and the nature of the on-campus employment, i.e., a letter from the DSO.

The letter is to be on school letterhead, which includes the DSO’s original signature. It should also show the printed/typed name and telephone number of the DSO along with the date the letter or statement is signed. The letter can be a form letter as long as the student’s name and student-specific information about the employer and nature of the employment are original entries by the DSO. SSA cannot accept a letter that does not have an original signature or that lists more than one student.

The letter or statement must:

-- Identify the student by name,

-- Identify the on-campus employer (e.g., book store, cafeteria, biology department, library, etc.) and

-- Describe the nature of the on-campus employment (e.g., waiting tables in the cafeteria, stocking

shelves in the library, monitoring lab experiments, etc.).

AND

(2) Verification of the on-campus employment:

-- Recent Pay Slip or Stub

-- Letter from Employer

The letter or statement verifying on-campus employment should include the following information:

-- Identity of student employee

-- Job description

-- Anticipated or actual employment start date

-- Number of hours the student is expected to work

-- Employer identification number (EIN)

-- Employer contact information, including the telephone number and the name of the F-1 student’s

immediate supervisor

-- Original signature

-- Signatory’s title

-- Date.

Employment verification must come from another source other than the DSO, e.g., the department or payroll official that issues the paycheck and is responsible for wage reporting.

IMPORTANT: In lieu of two (2) separate documents as described above, the school also has the option to submit one (1) piece of documentation from the on-campus employer, as long as the DSO signs off on the employer statement.

In this case, the DSO must clearly sign and print his or her name on the employer statement, provide a telephone number, and date the signature. The employer statement will contain the same information that the DSO would have provided in a separate DSO letter; namely, the employer name, name of student and the nature of the student’s on-campus job. The DSO signature will confirm that the student is in good academic standing and can work for the particular employer providing the statement.

For curricular practical training (CPT), we accept as proof of work authorization the DSO’s annotations on page 3 (employment page) of the Form I-20. The Form I-20 must be signed with an original DSO signature, dated, and show:

-- Training is full-time or part-time;

-- Employer name and location; and

-- Employment start and end dates.

A DSO letter, pay stub or other verification of employment is not needed to establish CPT work authorization. CPT employment can be either on or off campus.

To be assigned an SSN and issued an SSN card that is valid for off-campus work not related to the purpose of the F-1 visa, an F-1 student must have an EAD issue by DHS. The employment page (page 3) of the I-20 will be annotated by the DSO to show employment information.

Take the required documents to the nearest Social Security office and you can obtain the address and directions to the nearest Social Security office from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Note: People who live or receive mail in the Brooklyn, NY, Queens, NY, Phoenix, AZ or Las Vegas, NV area must apply in person at one of the Social Security Card Centers.

Card Center Information:

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cf...hp?p_faqid=1412

Normally, a card should be received card in the mail two weeks after the application and documents have been received and verified.

However, when an alien requests an SSN or replacement SSN card, we will verify his or her documents and current status with DHS.

Applicants with F-1 status for whom the initial Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) verification is not available, the Social Security office may need to fax a request for verification of status to the Los Angeles Immigration Status Verification unit in California (LOS ISV), using Form G-845.

The LOSISV unit should respond within 5 business days by faxing back completed G-845s to the requesting Social Security office. The Social Security office should call the LOSISV if no response is received after 5 days.

Exception: If an F-1 student has been issued an employment authorization document (EAD), i.e. I-688B or I-766, and the initial SAVE query response does verify work authorized status, the local Social Security office should follow regular verification procedures and submit an additional electronic verification or send a G-845 to the local Department of Homeland Security status verification unit.

Note: Since 01/06/2007 Social Security field offices can submit an additional electronic verification, which may eliminate the need to fax or mail a Form G-845.

RM 00203.488 Verifying the Immigration Status of Foreign Students (F-1 and M-1) and Exchange Visitors (J-1):

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203488

Our offices can also assist applicants by issuing a notice acknowledging the SSN application while documents are being verified.

RM 00202.307 Acknowledgement for Form SS-5:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202307

We may also need to verify that the applicant is attending a school approved by DHS to accept F-1 students and the contact the school and/or employer to verify full-time school attendance.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the application.

If a student is not assigned an SSN and the DSO believes he/she is authorized for employment, the DSO should first verify that SEVIS reflects the current status of the student, e.g. active, inactive, etc. If DSO is unable to determine the cause of the difficulty, they can contact the Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) at 202-353-3049.

If ineligible to be assigned an SSN, Social Security offices can provide written notice using Form SSA-L676 to explain that an SSN cannot be assigned or a card issued due to the applicant not having provided evidence of authorization to work in the United States or evidence of a valid nonwork reason for needing an SSN.

Needing an SSN for school enrollment, filing taxes, private health insurance, banking or to be issued a state professional or driver’s license are NOT valid non work reasons for needing an SSN.

You can find additional information regarding a nonwork need for an SSN on our Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203510

You may find additional SSN and employment information on the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

The IRS assigns Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers to aliens for tax purposes who are not eligible to be assigned an SSN. A Form W-7, “Application for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number,” needs to be submitted to be issued an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN).

You can download a form W-7 from the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html

You can contact the IRS ITIN office by calling 1-215-516-4846.

You can find additional information on the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1915.pdf

You may find the following additional information helpful.

Work performed by some non-resident aliens who visit the United States (U.S.) for a limited period of time is not covered by Social Security and, therefore, not subject to Social Security taxes. F-1 visa holders performing work connected to their studies or for the purpose of their visit to the U.S. are not subject to Social Security coverage.

Note: If an F-1 visa holder performs work which is not connected to the purpose for which they were admitted to the U.S., that work is covered by Social Security, unless specifically excluded by law. Such work is covered regardless of whether the work is authorized by the CIS or not.

The IRS is the authority on all tax matters, including the withholding of FICA taxes. All matters pertaining to proper filing are also under the jurisdiction of the IRS.

You can direct your Federal tax related questions to the IRS by:

-- Calling the IRS toll-free telephone number, 1-800-829-1040.

-- Calling or visiting any local IRS office.

You can locate your local IRS office at:

http://www.irs.gov/localcontacts/index.html

Taxpayers located outside the United States may also contact the IRS by mail at:

Internal Revenue Service

P.O. Box 920

Bensalem, PA 19020

USA

You can also call or Fax the Philadelphia Service Center office at:

Phone: 215-516-2000 (not toll-free)

Fax: 215-516-2555

Phone service is available Monday through Friday, from 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. (Eastern United States Time)

You may wish to review IRS publication 519, “U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens,” that can be found on the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p519/index.html

You can also call the IRS toll-free telephone number, 1-800-829-3676, to request Publication 519.

[isabelle 0]

thnks 4 the help moderator

once again thnk u very much

Edited October 24, 2007 by isabelle

[micah 0]

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[I'm Gone 60]

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