Fiance Visa denial

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So Matako-esque.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

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http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=622321

[Jamie76 0]

You are going to put a ring on her finger with a big rock, yet you basically stated that your girl likes you and you are hoping that it will develop further. That's something you may want to think over a few times.

[maya62 7]

Noll,

Keep in mind that, at the Consular stage, it will be HER intent that is in question. Anything that shows SHE has put some effort into this relationship (and isn't just looking for an easy ticket to the US) will be helpful. I was advised early on that an imbalance in effort is a red flag for you and the Consulate. Even though you are writing 8 emails to her 1, you may want to consider sending an equal amount from each of you to avoid raising this red flag. I understand why, but the Consulate may not see it that way.

Best wishes,

Maya

[HUSKERKIEV 8]

Hang in there buddy. Regarding the email etc.... Maryna and I saw each other once thus meeting the requirement. We would have met again (and planed to) but schedules wouldn't permit.

So, I too was concerned because all we had was email traffic between the two of us, cards and letters. No telephone records and only pictures from our initial visit together. As she told me, the Kiev embassy did not spend much time looking at any of the evidence and they had to be prompted by Maryna to look at our emails. He was impressed that I wrote lengthy emails in Russian (I use a online translator). That seemed to have been important to him for whatever reason.

The key is that you show that you communicate on a regular basis. I think I outwrote Maryna probably on a 4-1 basis simply because I had easy access vs here using the more difficult internet cafe method. I also sent cards every week to both her and her daughter and vice versa. Exchanging pictures of family and holidays also is important. As would be expected of two people who plan on merging their families. It is important for them to save everything that you send them and vice versa. On the bigger packages, have her cut off the postage to prove she got packages from you.

Then when its time for your interview send her everything that she has sent to you and print off all your emails too. They can connect the dots from there.

Good luck.

[LoriLawless 0]

All you can do is represent your case as best as you can. If she's not e-mailing you, then make sure you document your other froms of communication. letters, visits, chats.

My husbands interview was focused on our e-mails. It was random, you never really can tell. i think they looked at our e-mails because our paperwork was meticulous and well organized. Funny thing was we had a ton of phone cards (no printed records of the actual numbers dialed) and we had a ton of e-mails. I thought it would be best to just send 1-2 emails for every month we'd been together.My husband insisted on printing EVERY e-mail we'd ever sent. I thought it was unecessary. But he thought it was better to be safe than sorry. He was right! In the end his interview consisted of 5 or 6 questions. All but one came from the interviewer randomly combing through our e-mails and asking questions. I never would have guessed it. But thats our story.

Just relax and make the best presentation of the true nature or your relationship.

Wow, every email you ever sent? My god, mine would be 1,000 pages long!

[*JG* 2]

Dear Readers,

I am trying to find people who have been denied fiancé visas due to insufficient communication exchange. My biggest concern is frequency of communication exchange from my girl and more specifically, e-mail (or lack thereof).

Have you, or do you know someone, who has been denied issuance of the fiancé visa due to insufficient number of e-mail responses from your girl?

Does anyone know how heavily the reviewer’s look at frequency of e-mail exchanges or communication in general?

If everything else in the application is “perfect” except there are very few e-mail responses (one every 5 or 6 weeks), will they deny the visa? Has this happened to anyone?

Thank you.

Noll

We didn't have one single e-mail. But, the rest of the evidence far outweighed that fact.

Phone calls, letters, cards, and visits.

[Nanusia & Lukaszek 0]

I don't think I included any emails in my K1 submission either. I know that we had a ton of cards (from over the yrs, b-days, valentines, etc), a couple pics from a recent trip, usual copies of passport etc... what I did have to prove we are in constant contact was our skype log which showed we talked several hrs every single day.

Noll - I think it's kinda weird that you are getting ready for the whole K1 process, and your girl doesn't seem that interested in you, and emails once a month. I have distant friends across the globe that don't have email access readily available, but they email more than that... and you are planning to marry this girl?! Maybe you should fill her in on the details of your plans to see if they match hers. Maybe she "really likes you" and wants to be friends and not necessarily thinks a K1 is in line, while you are consulting with attorneys on how to coach her to write emails... all weird to me that's all.

If you want to talk with her more, and she cant get to internet cafe, maybe you can arrange for her to have internet at home? If your only communication with her are these once a month emails, I dont know what kind of a strong relationship you can be building. The interview at the consulate is to test the strength & validity of the relationship, and if she seems "coached" you guys are going to have problems. My personal recommendation would be to lay off the lawyers and invest in your relationship to see if this girl wants you, wants to marry you, has any idea what a K1 is, and wants to move to the US.

Good luck

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

I don't think I included any emails in my K1 submission either. I know that we had a ton of cards (from over the yrs, b-days, valentines, etc), a couple pics from a recent trip, usual copies of passport etc... what I did have to prove we are in constant contact was our skype log which showed we talked several hrs every single day.

Noll - I think it's kinda weird that you are getting ready for the whole K1 process, and your girl doesn't seem that interested in you, and emails once a month. I have distant friends across the globe that don't have email access readily available, but they email more than that... and you are planning to marry this girl?! Maybe you should fill her in on the details of your plans to see if they match hers. Maybe she "really likes you" and wants to be friends and not necessarily thinks a K1 is in line, while you are consulting with attorneys on how to coach her to write emails... all weird to me that's all.

If you want to talk with her more, and she cant get to internet cafe, maybe you can arrange for her to have internet at home? If your only communication with her are these once a month emails, I dont know what kind of a strong relationship you can be building. The interview at the consulate is to test the strength & validity of the relationship, and if she seems "coached" you guys are going to have problems. My personal recommendation would be to lay off the lawyers and invest in your relationship to see if this girl wants you, wants to marry you, has any idea what a K1 is, and wants to move to the US.

Good luck

Very well put

[SonoranSongbird 3]

Yeah, as others have said, it's the whole package that counts, and it is at the consulate stage that you need to worry about this. I-129F petition is just to prove you are a US citizen, you are both free to marry, and you have met in person at least once.

It certainly makes sense that if your fiancee is not completely fluent in English she might prefer methods of communication other than email. Trying to write in a language you are not fluent in when it has as many weird quirks and exceptions to rules as English would be hard. HOWEVER, if she is not making as much of an effort as you to develop the relationship in other ways, I really would take to heart what some people have said about this. Love has to be a two-way street, and it is terribly easy to see what you want to see if you are in love. Trust me on this one---I've been there.

Proving day to day communication when you get to the consulate can be hard to proove. I've given this some thought because although we email and talk on the phone nearly every day, we of course have an unlimited calling plan on VOIP (so we can't prove daily calls) and it is not realistic for me to print out 200 emails and carry them with me on a plane to Vancouver. We exchanged post cards, birthday cards, and Christmas cards, but only BEFORE becoming a couple (because now we are together for all the special days and our only travel is to visit each other). So aside from a sampling of emails (amounting to one a month) and monthly visits, we won't really have any proof of day-to-day contact (although my fiance has said that if they question it, he WILL show up in Vancouver with an entire box of my emails---eeek!!). If we were not able to see each other as often as we do AND he were from a country where the consular officers were more suspicious, I suppose we would figure something else out, but I can see where this could be problematic for someone with a genuine relationship.

[HUSKERKIEV 8]

Just to clarify what I said regarding sending my fiancee our email traffic - I printed off a representative sampling for her to show at the interview, not the for the initial petition.

Hope that helps.

[Nanusia & Lukaszek 0]

Just to clarify what I said regarding sending my fiancee our email traffic - I printed off a representative sampling for her to show at the interview, not the for the initial petition.

Hope that helps.

I don't think we had any emails even to the interview. I know that I visited my then fiance (now husband) like 2 months before his interview, so he took all the pics, and boarding passes, admission tickets, train & rail passes etc from that trip... and our continued skype log. I mean if I'm speaking to him for several hours a day, what would i be writing in the emails? I think it depends on the combination of what you include in your I-129F package and what you supplement to the interview. But either way, its is on YOU to prove the validity of the relationship, to prove without a doubt that you are genuine and that the both of yours intent is to come to the US to marry within the 90days.

I mean if they only have 1 trip, and 8-10 or so emails (spaced so widely apart), no other form of communication like calls VOIP or skype, or yahoo or any other voice calls, and I was the CO interviewing, to me it would seem staged and I'd think it was a Green card seeker. Of course this is only my opinion and could be totally wrong, but from what you write this is what I pick up.

I also read your other post Noll about the "which state to file in to not get denied" and it does seem you are worried like crazy of a denial. If you think your case doesnt have all the supporting evidence required that would get you approved, work on getting it instead of filing early and risking denial and further appeals or lengthy process.

Book a flight to see your girl, discuss all this live and not on monthly emails, see where this relationship is going. This way you'll have evidence for the I-129F filing (if you decide to pursue) and you'll see if her intentions are real, and you can discuss you want more contact phone, IM, emails or whatever.

Like someone said earlier, the 90 days is to get married, not to test the waters. Don't set yourself up for a disappointment.