The Vent

[Sprailenes 47]

If that were me I'd put: "OOPS!"

But "Thanks...."

I mean what the hell?? I don't even know....

[Sprailenes 47]

I am reading our company website and there's a section on the history of the land the golf course is on and here's an excerpt:

The Dutch settlers of the early 17th century befriended the Indians and exchanged cloth, knives, furs and liquors with them.

I want to tell them about why they should take "liquours" out. would that be out of line?

[trailmix 77]

I am reading our company website and there's a section on the history of the land the golf course is on and here's an excerpt:

The Dutch settlers of the early 17th century befriended the Indians and exchanged cloth, knives, furs and liquors with them.

I want to tell them about why they should take "liquours" out. would that be out of line?

But it is the truth isn't it....they did exchange liquors with them?

[Sprailenes 47]

They ran out of things to trade so they went to the next cheapest thing which was liquor. It wasn't a happy time, it was one of the many causes of our demise, and gave us the great stereotype of being a bunch of drunken fools. The way they word it, it makes it sound like they did them a favour.

"Oh we exchanged furs, knives and booze, it was a gay old time!"

Anyways I have talked to them about it and they had no idea. They are taking it out.

I win.

[trailmix 77]

They ran out of things to trade so they went to the next cheapest thing which was liquor. It wasn't a happy time, it was one of the many causes of our demise, and gave us the great stereotype of being a bunch of drunken fools. The way they word it, it makes it sound like they did them a favour.

"Oh we exchanged furs, knives and booze, it was a gay old time!"

Anyways I have talked to them about it and they had no idea. They are taking it out.

I win.

How could they not know?

Anyone who has an inkling of the history would have looked at it (one would think) and said - well, they didn't do them any favours.

By excluding it - it would seem more like a gloss over. Perhaps if it had originally been excluded you would have read it and thought - well, isn't that convenient that they left out the alcohol - glossing over it to make it sound like a farmer's market.

Anyway, i'm glad it worked out the way you wanted it to.

[Sprailenes 47]

They didn't know that natives have a problem with alcohol. They just figured it was a trade off and an innocent one. I mean, its true yes, they did exchange furs for alcohol. But that wasn't the best trade.

[thetreble 19]

They didn't know that natives have a problem with alcohol. They just figured it was a trade off and an innocent one. I mean, its true yes, they did exchange furs for alcohol. But that wasn't the best trade.

Oh come on...that should be general knowledge!

E- I had to reply in that thread. I couldn't help myself.

[Sprailenes 47]

They didn't know that natives have a problem with alcohol. They just figured it was a trade off and an innocent one. I mean, its true yes, they did exchange furs for alcohol. But that wasn't the best trade.

I mean the wording of it it to me sounds more glossed over than leaving it out. The furs were great, the hunting tools were great, the pottery was great. Then there was liquors.

I read it one way and you read it another. But I like your perspective as well. Perhaps leaving it out would be glossing it over. But I guess in my opinion for this website you could leave it out because its not about being a history lesson so much as it is promoting the course itself.

A lot of people down here don't think that way of natives, they don't know about the stereotypes of them being alcoholics. I never get called names down here or anything, and I guess ignorance is bliss in many ways because its one of the things I love most about living here. No one knows.

[Emancipation 2]

E- I had to reply in that thread. I couldn't help myself.

tee hee.. you rock.. *sigh.. i Just don't understand where gratitude has gone these days.. not to mention personal responsibility!

[thetreble 19]

I don't know either. I see it in my job every day..no personal responsibility. And on top of all that, the disgusting remarks about people wearing rolex's and it being paid by the church?

The church pays for a lot of things...a rolex is not one of them to my knowledge unless you are a preacher that is stealing big time.

[Emancipation 2]

I don't know either. I see it in my job every day..no personal responsibility. And on top of all that, the disgusting remarks about people wearing rolex's and it being paid by the church?

The church pays for a lot of things...a rolex is not one of them to my knowledge unless you are a preacher that is stealing big time.

I just chalked those comments up to an uber frustrated individual.. but renouncing citizenship? Whooeeee.. those fighting words round here.. some people on this board would give ANYTHING for US citizenship!

[Flames9_RN 358]

I grew up in North central Sask, so a lo tof natives there and had many good friends that are native. Alcohol runs rampant in the city and in the reserves, very sad. of course the govt solution is just to throw more $$ at it and not address the problem head on!! its such a terrible disease

[Autumnchik 6]

E and Mandy - I just read that thread now and it annoyed me. I love what you both posted. I don't have the energy now to formulate a response that is not offensive (because I do feel bad someone was in an accident and is shaken up) ... but I just keep thinking, dude, YOU made the choice to pick up the stuff on your floor ... and he is blaming the road condition for having to pick it up in the first place. ARGH! It sucks that it happened, but it is not the State of Idaho's fault.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Oh my God. There's this student who waits for her classes outside my office; and she goes on and on and on and on and on about McCain. She argues with her classmates, gets all heated up and the works. She annoys me. Partly because I of course I don't agree with what she says and I think she is an idiot; but mostly because she has such a LOUD EFFING VOICE

Can someone please come over and shoot her? I don't believe in owning guns, but I have no qualms about hiring a hit-person

GRRRREAT. Now she's talking about Rossi (GOP governor candidate) as if he was the closest thing to John Lennon.

[xtinab 0]

I absolutely LOVE Toronto, and my karaoke scene, and my family and friends, but ive been here now for 7 days, and I am ACHING to go back to BB in Columbus! Im supposed to stay out here for at least 2 weeks to make sure I dont overstay in the US, But I dont know if I can do that.. Some of my friends are constantly on me to go here go there do this do that....bah! Im tearing my hair out! I never thought that this kind of pressure would be so stressful. Right now all I want to do is go back down to Oh.

(Funny how Karaoke was listed before family and friends...there might be a problem there in itself!)