Not Hiring Immigrants

[trailmix 77]

I guess if you show up at the interview wearing a turban and some ugly beard, and have never shaved in your life, then they may have a point.

Or if you show up with all kinds of body piercings and tatoos, which may be appropriate in your country, that you probably wont get the job.

If you have trouble with English and you have been here for 10 years, then I guess you may have a problem.

If your culture is to never take a shower, or only bathe once a year, then you may have a problem.

If you dont assimilate the culture and the standards of grooming here, then you may have a problem.

If you smell like a goat, then you may have a problem.

Or if you have a huge chip on your shoulder you may have a problem.

[~krakatoa~ 27]

I guess I am just lucky to get the job (in the same field and industry as my previous work in my home country) on my first try. So far, my co-workers and the HR are very welcoming and professional. As far as the interview & legal presence are concerned, the HR and the interviewing panel did ask me if I have acquired security clearance in the States and if I am authorized to work here. I was expecting the "illegal questions" as I was prepared to rebut them but the company knew their business very well and respects diversity. Science & Eng'g. is more lenient of diversity.

A positive attitude does accentuate a well-structured resume. Good luck!

Edited October 23, 2007 by mysticbluerose

[rebeccajo 14]

I guess if you show up at the interview wearing a turban and some ugly beard, and have never shaved in your life, then they may have a point.

Or if you show up with all kinds of body piercings and tatoos, which may be appropriate in your country, that you probably wont get the job.

If you have trouble with English and you have been here for 10 years, then I guess you may have a problem.

If your culture is to never take a shower, or only bathe once a year, then you may have a problem.

If you dont assimilate the culture and the standards of grooming here, then you may have a problem.

If you smell like a goat, then you may have a problem.

Or if you have a huge chip on your shoulder you may have a problem.

Aw.......Mike was making a funny I think.......

[tmma 467]

Mark spent some of his time on visits here ( before we filed), looking up potential employers here and contacting/visiting them.

He kept in contact with a couple of them whilst he was still in Holland and every time he visited me.

He took pictures of projects he had completed in Holland to show the potential employers what exactly he was doing there; gathered references,and when he finally got his visa approved and his GC he started work straight away doing basically the same job in the same field as he did in Holland. He is doing very well, and I am so very proud of him.

He told me he has not come upon any "discrimination" per se- just lots of curiosity;mostly it's been all positive for him.

Edited October 23, 2007 by tmma

[athena_ny 1]

I actually visited a recruiter who had the gaul to tell me that employers might think I couldn't spell properly, seeing as I was British. I got a little angry and told her that my country invented the language so I had a head start there.

Well, you couldn't spell "gall", so maybe the recruiter was right after all?

And don't get me started on the whole evolution of language and the UK did not "invent" the language we speak today.

And the Americans didn't "invent" the English they speak today either.

GUH!

I was simply annoyed with the recruiter, and was lashing out. I wasn't rewriting history. My understanding, and I could be very wrong, is that the English language is of German origin, dating back to around the fifth or sixth century AD.

Yes, it's West Germanic, and originally there were two forms, Anglo-Saxon, and Anglo-German, which mixed (but was never a truly mixed language). There also became some Scandinavian influence, from close relations with the Scandinavians, and English really became a "borrowing" language (there are Latin influences as well).

But Old English is practically unrecognizable to us today (as in, I'd need a legend to decipher it).

I just get annoyed by that perception of certain people that the language "belongs" to a certain country and that they "invented" it. Language evolves - Spanish spoke in Spain is very different from that spoken in South America, the same goes for Portuguese in Brazil and Portgual. And English in different countries as well, and neither form is more valid than another - they have just evolved from the same common origin. And I'm sure you know all that, but it's a battle in all languages that have spead to different areas of the world. And it's one of my soapboxes.

[peejay 327]

I guess if you show up at the interview wearing a turban and some ugly beard, and have never shaved in your life, then they may have a point.

Or if you show up with all kinds of body piercings and tatoos, which may be appropriate in your country, that you probably wont get the job.

If you have trouble with English and you have been here for 10 years, then I guess you may have a problem.

If your culture is to never take a shower, or only bathe once a year, then you may have a problem.

If you dont assimilate the culture and the standards of grooming here, then you may have a problem.

If you smell like a goat, then you may have a problem.

Or if you have a huge chip on your shoulder you may have a problem.

The Fox always had a way with words.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

[peejay 327]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

My wife was already working at the Catholic school in our neighborhood for over a year and she came home with a paper to sign giving the school the right run a background check on her to investigate if she was a sexual predator. And they made her pay for it! I was livid. They wanted this background check, but they wanted her to pay for it or she loses her job? I told her to do what she wanted, but if it were me...I'd tell them to "go to hell". I had no problem with the background check, but I thought it was utterly sh*tty for them to demand she pay for it. She paid and stayed.

Too bad the Catholic church hasn't been as aggressive in screening their pervert priests that have cost the parishioners millions of $$$ in settlements.

[pedroh 21]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

My wife was already working at the Catholic school in our neighborhood for over a year and she came home with a paper to sign giving the school the right run a background check on her to investigate if she was a sexual predator. And they made her pay for it! I was livid. They wanted this background check, but they wanted her to pay for it or she loses her job? I told her to do what she wanted, but if it were me...I'd tell them to "go to hell". I had no problem with the background check, but I thought it was utterly sh*tty for them to demand she pay for it. She paid and stayed.

Too bad the Catholic church hasn't been as aggressive in screening their pervert priests that have cost the parishioners millions of $$$ in settlements.

she had to pay for the background check? that's fukced up man..

Steven.. all retail stores do background checks, independently of it the employee is USC or furriner.. as a matter of fact, retail stores make background checks, credit checks, and drug tests.. the shack does that even with the temporary xmas people.. again, for security, they won't hire someone with shoplifting, or with bad credit either..

[athena_ny 1]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

JCPenney started doing background checks around November of 2004, shortly after I was hired (worked there 2 years and missed having to undergo a background check). It's on all employees, and yes, that's what they're going to do.

Which is kind of funny, because I worked with a girl there who'd been caught stealing from the register at Bath and Body Works but B&BW never pressed charges...so she worked the register in the men's department.

Edited October 24, 2007 by meow mix

[athena_ny 1]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

My wife was already working at the Catholic school in our neighborhood for over a year and she came home with a paper to sign giving the school the right run a background check on her to investigate if she was a sexual predator. And they made her pay for it! I was livid. They wanted this background check, but they wanted her to pay for it or she loses her job? I told her to do what she wanted, but if it were me...I'd tell them to "go to hell". I had no problem with the background check, but I thought it was utterly sh*tty for them to demand she pay for it. She paid and stayed.

Too bad the Catholic church hasn't been as aggressive in screening their pervert priests that have cost the parishioners millions of $$$ in settlements.

she had to pay for the background check? that's fukced up man..

Steven.. all retail stores do background checks, independently of it the employee is USC or furriner.. as a matter of fact, retail stores make background checks, credit checks, and drug tests.. the shack does that even with the temporary xmas people.. again, for security, they won't hire someone with shoplifting, or with bad credit either..

I had bad credit and they hired me Then they gave me a credit card!

I know JCPenney does NOT do drug tests.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

My wife was already working at the Catholic school in our neighborhood for over a year and she came home with a paper to sign giving the school the right run a background check on her to investigate if she was a sexual predator. And they made her pay for it! I was livid. They wanted this background check, but they wanted her to pay for it or she loses her job? I told her to do what she wanted, but if it were me...I'd tell them to "go to hell". I had no problem with the background check, but I thought it was utterly sh*tty for them to demand she pay for it. She paid and stayed.

Too bad the Catholic church hasn't been as aggressive in screening their pervert priests that have cost the parishioners millions of $$$ in settlements.

she had to pay for the background check? that's fukced up man..

Steven.. all retail stores do background checks, independently of it the employee is USC or furriner.. as a matter of fact, retail stores make background checks, credit checks, and drug tests.. the shack does that even with the temporary xmas people.. again, for security, they won't hire someone with shoplifting, or with bad credit either..

I had bad credit and they hired me Then they gave me a credit card!

I know JCPenney does NOT do drug tests.

I was going to say that if a company won't hire someone with a poor credit score, that's discrimination. I understand the logic behind screening applicants with bad credit, but it's taking information that is private and using it for a different purpose than its original intent.

[pedroh 21]

A bit OT, but sort of related... Jinky had an interview at JC Penny's today and was told that she was hired, pending a background check. What exactly are they going to check her background for? To make sure she hasn't had any convictions in the 7 months that she's been in America?

My wife was already working at the Catholic school in our neighborhood for over a year and she came home with a paper to sign giving the school the right run a background check on her to investigate if she was a sexual predator. And they made her pay for it! I was livid. They wanted this background check, but they wanted her to pay for it or she loses her job? I told her to do what she wanted, but if it were me...I'd tell them to "go to hell". I had no problem with the background check, but I thought it was utterly sh*tty for them to demand she pay for it. She paid and stayed.

Too bad the Catholic church hasn't been as aggressive in screening their pervert priests that have cost the parishioners millions of $$$ in settlements.

she had to pay for the background check? that's fukced up man..

Steven.. all retail stores do background checks, independently of it the employee is USC or furriner.. as a matter of fact, retail stores make background checks, credit checks, and drug tests.. the shack does that even with the temporary xmas people.. again, for security, they won't hire someone with shoplifting, or with bad credit either..

I had bad credit and they hired me Then they gave me a credit card!

I know JCPenney does NOT do drug tests.

I was going to say that if a company won't hire someone with a poor credit score, that's discrimination. I understand the logic behind screening applicants with bad credit, but it's taking information that is private and using it for a different purpose than its original intent.

the shack does it.. and, you have to sign a consent form that they're checking your credit.. besides they don't mind a poor credit score or no score.. they care about BAD credit score, which is not the same.. the logic I think is that if you have a gazillion of unpaid cards, and collection agencies bills and stuff, means you're not enough responsible for a job.. which I think is kinda reasonable... also they mainly use it to catch an applicant lying..

[brtlmj 0]

Therefore, the applicant cannot be asked question about nationality at the time of the interview or on a job application."

They can ask what languages you speak, and this usually tells them where you are from...

[StillThePrettiest 3]

...I just get annoyed by that perception of certain people that the language "belongs" to a certain country and that they "invented" it. Language evolves - Spanish spoke in Spain is very different from that spoken in South America, the same goes for Portuguese in Brazil and Portgual. And English in different countries as well, and neither form is more valid than another - they have just evolved from the same common origin. And I'm sure you know all that, but it's a battle in all languages that have spead to different areas of the world. And it's one of my soapboxes.

you have a good point, but the thing that would have annoyed me in the interview that was mentioned is the use of 'properly'... as soon as something is said that implies one is 'right' and another 'wrong' it's a problem; why can't we use more neutral language about such things?

and as an English and language teacher for more than twelve years, it's one of my soapboxes too