My moms take on the illegal immigration crap

[Elizabethnhenry 0]

I'll repost (riposte?) my solution: Basically it's all semantics. We have a problem with "illegal immigrants"? Why not just call them "pilgrims"? Then we can even make a holiday for them, and all! Problem solved. You're welcome.

-mike

[arwensun1965 1]

At the same time anex Canada and that would really shorten our boarders!

OH Jasman you really know how to put the Fox in the chicken pen lmao

[Velvettt 0]

At the same time anex Canada and that would really shorten our boarders!

They already tried that. It was called the War of 1812.

[Sinergy 3]

Im STILL trying to see how anyone is bashing anyone here. or more specifically being HATERS. Just because one person gets set off because he takes things too offencivly then goes on and on about how we on VJ are haters, and bashing things on VJ, does not constitute as is.

The issue was simple and posted for smiles, not to be taken LITERALLY and get all pissy because someone thinks we want to buy their country!

It almost feels like we have to watch what we say just because someone will take ANYTHING we say on the forum offensivly and begin name calling and ASSUMPTIONS!

[mikeize 0]

yeah.. but im sorry for aggravating y'all guys.. Sorry for being offended and not go along with the bashing..

and mike.. it's already happening..

In fact, pedroh, I see the "minuteman" vigilante phenomenon as the tip of the fascistic iceberg.

-mike

[mercuryroad 0]

I was talking to my dad about this issue last night, and he brought up something that I hadn't thought of, but seems all too relevant, historically speaking. He was saying how he is worried for the safety of his Mexican friends (mostly US citizens). You don't have to look far even in a place like VJ to see that this issue has caused no small amount of hysteria around itself. How long before the rhetoric matures into a "all the country's problems are the fault of (mexicans)"? Before you laugh it off and say it couldn't happen here, remember that it already has, both here and other countries, all the time. I wonder what people think about this, if I can butt into the slangin for a minute.

-mike

That's the danger of the illegal immigration debate....it has turned into a U.S. vs Mexico battle and there are a lot of innocent people that will get caught in the middle. The American public in general is very ignorant on this issue. Hell....most Americans think anyone that is brown is Mexican.

[Mirorgate 0]

...Hell....most Americans think anyone that is brown is Mexican.

Hell, I had a mexican man ask me if I was going to send my wife back to Mexico.. because she's latina so therefore must be mexican. and illegal. (he musta got that part from the sign she was carrying above her head)

Stupidity isn't just for citizens of the USA... they're everywhere.

[mikeize 0]

That's the danger of the illegal immigration debate....it has turned into a U.S. vs Mexico battle and there are a lot of innocent people that will get caught in the middle. The American public in general is very ignorant on this issue. Hell....most Americans think anyone that is brown is Mexican.

Yup and yup. Also, I feel that this is an old trick used by politicians to divert attention from other issues. Find a minority group and blame them. This particular minority already has a "head start" in that they already have fewer "rights" (I don't care what your opinions are on that), than the majority citizens, and are marginilized from the getgo. It's a hot issue that everyone can rally around (even here, libs and cons holding hands together). It's a distraction from issues like the wars, healthcare, the deficit, corruption, etc. Hey look everybody, it's not the government that's to blame, it's yer goddamn gardener. Gimme a break.

-mike

[Sinergy 3]

It should NOT be US vs Mexico, and the fact that mexicans are the ones being targeted in the illegal immigration debate all over the place is because they are the ones who have come out and began demanding the rights they are not entitled to. Therefore making the american people pretty ticked off about it. mexicans are NOT the only illegals in this country, they just happened to be the vast majority who are protesting. If it were a whole other group in general, then no one would be talking about the mexicans.

That's the danger of the illegal immigration debate....it has turned into a U.S. vs Mexico battle and there are a lot of innocent people that will get caught in the middle. The American public in general is very ignorant on this issue. Hell....most Americans think anyone that is brown is Mexican.

Yup and yup. Also, I feel that this is an old trick used by politicians to divert attention from other issues. Find a minority group and blame them. This particular minority already has a "head start" in that they already have fewer "rights" (I don't care what your opinions are on that), than the majority citizens, and are marginilized from the getgo. It's a hot issue that everyone can rally around (even here, libs and cons holding hands together). It's a distraction from issues like the wars, healthcare, the deficit, corruption, etc. Hey look everybody, it's not the government that's to blame, it's yer goddamn gardener. Gimme a break.

-mike

AGREED!!!!!

[mikeize 0]

I'm guessing you meant to delete the part I wrote? lol

-mike

[Sinergy 3]

hahaha. no i replied to his msg, and yours was attached to his so it got on there too

[Bootylicious!! 2]

I was just telling my husband the same thing. If they want to protest then okay, but don't be waving the Mexican flag. It just gives ignorant Americans something to talk about and blame. He said, yes but there are other flags being waved too. I told him the majority of them are Mexican flags and that's all the Americans see. They want to have someone to blame and it's easy to blame the Mexicans even though they aren't the only illegals here. It's like Merc said, most Americans think Guatemalans and Hondurans are Mexicans too. If they have brown skin then they must be Mexican.

[Traviesa 0]

I was just telling my husband the same thing. If they want to protest then okay, but don't be waving the Mexican flag. It just gives ignorant Americans something to talk about and blame. He said, yes but there are other flags being waved too. I told him the majority of them are Mexican flags and that's all the Americans see. They want to have someone to blame and it's easy to blame the Mexicans even though they aren't the only illegals here. It's like Merc said, most Americans think Guatemalans and Hondurans are Mexicans too. If they have brown skin then they must be Mexican.

NOT the DREADED Mexicans from Guatemala and Honduras??? (remember that, lol?)

[Sinergy 3]

I dont think its that americans WANT someone to blame so they just pick someone. IMO

I think its the fact whoever throws themselves as a majority into the lime life will get the most ciritisism.

If it were the Italians, all the threads would be about italians, if it were the Africans, it would be about them, and so on.

Americans dont just wake up one morning and decide to pick on a certain race, IMO if you make such a pissy fit over something like legalizing yourself as an ILLEGAL, then yea people are going to react sourly.

[Bootylicious!! 2]

I was just telling my husband the same thing. If they want to protest then okay, but don't be waving the Mexican flag. It just gives ignorant Americans something to talk about and blame. He said, yes but there are other flags being waved too. I told him the majority of them are Mexican flags and that's all the Americans see. They want to have someone to blame and it's easy to blame the Mexicans even though they aren't the only illegals here. It's like Merc said, most Americans think Guatemalans and Hondurans are Mexicans too. If they have brown skin then they must be Mexican.

NOT the DREADED Mexicans from Guatemala and Honduras??? (remember that, lol?)

I do! I think everyone needs to see that movie. I love it!