Staph fatalities may exceed AIDS deaths

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Plus, they DON'T TEST FOR STAPH AT PRE-VISA MEDICALS! If you're going to make the 'argument' that illegals are causing the rise in antibiotic resistant staph infections, you really need it to be the case that had they entered legally, they wouldn't have been admitted. The staph bacteria is just perfectly happy to live on your skin and only bothers to infect you through a cut or if your immune system is low. That's why it's most common post-surgery, in the elderly.

Unless the infection is active (in which case you're hosed and too sick to sneak across the border), no test is going to catch it.

It's not like we douse people in chemical showers when they cross the border legally.

Indeed. And while they might deny a person for a diagnosable, contagious disease - they aren't going to deny someone who has poor personal hygiene. Moreover, its not inconceivable that you could pick up a staph infection at the USCIS office for your AOS interview. All you need is a cut on a hand or finger and an employee or visitor who doesn't wash their hands after taking a dump.

[Caladan 19]

charles, the medical establishment knows where antibiotic-resistant staph came from; it comes from staph evolving in response to overuse of antibiotics, not poor illegal immigrants from countries with poor medical care. 'Who knows what they brought in' wouldn't explain why most staph infections start in nice private hospitals post-surgery. Illegals don't make bacteria evolve.

Or are the illegals in the UK now, too?

Lots of problems caused by illegal immigration, but the disease worries are on the TB/hepatitis end of things, not on the antibiotic-resistant staph end of things. (And the visa interview doesn't test for antibiotic resistant staph anyway.)

i didn't say that illegals made bacteria evolve nor anything about them being in the uk. we both know what the mrsa - uk health plan debate didn't include illegals. as for if the illegals do or don't have the antibiotic resistant staph at one point in time or another, i've not seen anything that proves or disproves that.

See my previous. Your argument is now that antibiotic resistant staph evolved in a country with poor health care and crossed the border with the illegals, ignoring two major things: 1) it isn't more common in areas with high percentages of illegal immigrants and 2) that pre-visa medicals don't test for staph, so you have just as much reason to think that staph came in with Nessa, or my husband, or any of the 64 million visitors to the U.S. per annum.

i didn't make any such argument. you are the one that brought up illegals first. all i did was dispute that particular statement that illegals didn't bring anything in with them.

LuckyStrike blamed it on illegals earlier in the thread. My first post was disputing that illegal immigration (as opposed to oh, antibiotic practices) causes MRSA infections. I didn't say that illegals didn't bring ANYTHING in with them (though we have no way of testing that) but MRSA isn't one of them. And even if it were, a medical exam wouldn't catch staph just sitting on your skin.

It's a bacteria that lives on skin, and most MRSA infections are in hospitals, started in hospitals and have been for some time. It's only making the news lately because two kids (not illegals) died of staph infections in schools about 1000 miles apart.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

charles, the medical establishment knows where antibiotic-resistant staph came from; it comes from staph evolving in response to overuse of antibiotics, not poor illegal immigrants from countries with poor medical care. 'Who knows what they brought in' wouldn't explain why most staph infections start in nice private hospitals post-surgery. Illegals don't make bacteria evolve.

Or are the illegals in the UK now, too?

Lots of problems caused by illegal immigration, but the disease worries are on the TB/hepatitis end of things, not on the antibiotic-resistant staph end of things. (And the visa interview doesn't test for antibiotic resistant staph anyway.)

i didn't say that illegals made bacteria evolve nor anything about them being in the uk. we both know what the mrsa - uk health plan debate didn't include illegals. as for if the illegals do or don't have the antibiotic resistant staph at one point in time or another, i've not seen anything that proves or disproves that.

See my previous. Your argument is now that antibiotic resistant staph evolved in a country with poor health care and crossed the border with the illegals, ignoring two major things: 1) it isn't more common in areas with high percentages of illegal immigrants and 2) that pre-visa medicals don't test for staph, so you have just as much reason to think that staph came in with Nessa, or my husband, or any of the 64 million visitors to the U.S. per annum.

i didn't make any such argument. you are the one that brought up illegals first. all i did was dispute that particular statement that illegals didn't bring anything in with them.

LuckyStrike blamed it on illegals earlier in the thread. My first post was disputing that illegal immigration (as opposed to oh, antibiotic practices) causes MRSA infections. I didn't say that illegals didn't bring ANYTHING in with them (though we have no way of testing that) but MRSA isn't one of them. And even if it were, a medical exam wouldn't catch staph just sitting on your skin.

It's a bacteria that lives on skin, and most MRSA infections are in hospitals, started in hospitals and have been for some time. It's only making the news lately because two kids (not illegals) died of staph infections in schools about 1000 miles apart.

i'm glad we got that cleared up. what's next?

[Caladan 19]

How we could minimize staph infections by doctors washing their hands more?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How we could minimize staph infections by doctors washing their hands more?

Or generally better sanitation/cleaning protocols in hospitals.