FOX News Poll: More Voters Believe Clinton Will Be President

[no name 1]

Gary C is the best!!

besides the others, but then he is close!

He cares alot about others, if caring for others means caring about yourself only!!

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Gary C is the best!!

besides the others, but then he is close!

He cares alot about others, if caring for others means caring about yourself only!!

apparently you have a decoder ring. may i borrow it?

[no name 1]

What a topsy turvy day when devilette is posting news from Fox and Gary is posting news from CNN. I need a drink.

I know!

Gary C is the best!!

besides the others, but then he is close!

He cares alot about others, if caring for others means caring about yourself only!!

apparently you have a decoder ring. may i borrow it?

Ask Mr Conservative!

[Kevin and 10]

More than 4 of 10 voters (44 percent) think another Clinton presidency is inevitable, which is almost four times as many as see Republican Rudy Giuliani winning the White House (12 percent), according to a newly released FOX News poll.

Not only do 61 percent of Democrats believe Clinton will be the next president, but also 25 percent of Republicans and 45 percent of independents.

"These results suggest there is a growing sense of inevitability to a 'Clinton II' presidency — which is also reflected in the rhetoric of Republican presidential contenders who focus almost exclusively on Clinton as their general election target," commented Ernest Paicopolos, principal of Opinion Dynamics.

In addition, more people think Clinton is "very" qualified to be president than any of the other top contenders. Setting aside how they would vote, nearly half of Americans (47 percent) say they think Clinton is "very" qualified, followed by John McCain at 34 percent, Giuliani at 32 percent, Barack Obama at 23 percent, and Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson both at 16 percent. <script type=text/javascript _extended="true"> /**/

Polls mean nothing. The USA is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. What we need to look at is what each state thinks of the canidate, not a nation wide poll. The Framers knew the dangers of a Democracy. They where just as afraid of a Democracy as they were of Monarchy.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I've heard that 'no democracy' argument before - I'm not sure I buy it to be honest.

Yes its a republic, but its also a democracy - but there really isn't such a thing as a 'pure' democracy.

If we're being honest - the US resembles a Oligarchical Plutocracy rather than either of the above.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.”

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"We can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

"I certainly think the free market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector [oil] in the entire economy, that they are being watched."

"What I want to do is take those profits and apply them to alternative energy."

Karl Marx or Frederick Engels said none of these things; Hillary Clinton said them all.

[no name 1]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"We can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

"I certainly think the free market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector [oil] in the entire economy, that they are being watched."

"What I want to do is take those profits and apply them to alternative energy."

Karl Marx or Frederick Engels said none of these things; Hillary Clinton said them all.

Your point? This topic is about a poll taken by (right wing) FOX NEWS showing that out of 900 americans, 44% think she is inevitable as Pres. That's it.

Edited October 16, 2007 by devilette

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.”

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"We can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

"I certainly think the free market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector [oil] in the entire economy, that they are being watched."

"What I want to do is take those profits and apply them to alternative energy."

Karl Marx or Frederick Engels said none of these things; Hillary Clinton said them all.

Not that I favour her, at all actually - but to be fair - she made those comments in specific contexts. Contexts which tend to be forgotten in the mad rush to condemn her based solely on soundbites.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"We can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

"I certainly think the free market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector [oil] in the entire economy, that they are being watched."

"What I want to do is take those profits and apply them to alternative energy."

Karl Marx or Frederick Engels said none of these things; Hillary Clinton said them all.

Your point? This topic is about a poll taken by (right wing) FOX NEWS showing that out of 900 americans, 44% think she is inevitable as Pres. That's it.

do your part and pass on the above list to that 44%

[Kevin and 10]

I've heard that 'no democracy' argument before - I'm not sure I buy it to be honest.

Yes its a republic, but its also a democracy - but there really isn't such a thing as a 'pure' democracy.

If we're being honest - the US resembles a Oligarchical Plutocracy rather than either of the above.

I agree with the Oligarchical Plutocracy.

4 years of Bush, 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Bush, & possibly 4 or 8 years of Clinton. 20-28 years the Country will be run by the same two families.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

I've heard that 'no democracy' argument before - I'm not sure I buy it to be honest.

Yes its a republic, but its also a democracy - but there really isn't such a thing as a 'pure' democracy.

If we're being honest - the US resembles a Oligarchical Plutocracy rather than either of the above.

I agree with the Oligarchical Plutocracy.

4 years of Bush, 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Bush, & possibly 4 or 8 years of Clinton. 20-28 years the Country will be run by the same two families.

and then it will be time for the kennedys

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Gary C is the best!!

besides the others, but then he is close!

He cares alot about others, if caring for others means caring about yourself only!!

No need for personal attacks...he's a good man with strong convictions, regardless of whether you agree with his politics or not.

[no name 1]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"We can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

"I certainly think the free market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector [oil] in the entire economy, that they are being watched."

"What I want to do is take those profits and apply them to alternative energy."

Karl Marx or Frederick Engels said none of these things; Hillary Clinton said them all.

Your point? This topic is about a poll taken by (right wing) FOX NEWS showing that out of 900 americans, 44% think she is inevitable as Pres. That's it.

do your part and pass on the above list to that 44%

VJ sheesh.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.”

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"We can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

"I certainly think the free market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector [oil] in the entire economy, that they are being watched."

"What I want to do is take those profits and apply them to alternative energy."

Karl Marx or Frederick Engels said none of these things; Hillary Clinton said them all.

Not that I favour her, at all actually - but to be fair - she made those comments in specific contexts. Contexts which tend to be forgotten in the mad rush to condemn her based solely on soundbites.

Exactly.

[Raspect 0]

Gary C is the best!!

besides the others, but then he is close!

He cares alot about others, if caring for others means caring about yourself only!!

No need for personal attacks...he's a good man with strong convictions, regardless of whether you agree with his politics or not.

Yes sir, I do agree with you that I made a personal attack, and that there is no need for it. That is really why I have made an effort not to come to VJ very often and post. Cause sometimes I engage in personal attacks and it is just no right. I am sorry for that, and I agree with your advice.

The only thing I am not so sure I agree with is he is a good man. Of what I have read from his convictions, that I doubt. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt here, and There is NO need for personal attacks, which I use too often.