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All I know is that Cassie is a very nice person and I have seen her behave very nicely on VJ over the years. She has always mentioned how she does not like the use of the word retarded and has stated why, and she obviously needed to let off some steam about it. Some of us agree with her, and some don't. Cassie is a very mature woman IMO. :thumbs:

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I think it's interesting you compared it to the word "moron", which is actually also a clinical description (has to do with where a person falls on the IQ scale). Technically, it SHOULD be at the same "offensiveness" level as "retarded" since they both are based on medical condition, yet use of "moron" does not evoke the same kind of moral grandstanding as has been evidenced here. Do I think it's okay to call someone who IS developmentally challenged a "moron" or a "retard"? No, I think it is in extremely poor taste. Do I think it's a big deal if someone calls someone who is unimpaired the name? No, not at all. It's all about when and where it's being used for me.

Moron is actually a more general term than retarded. I think that moron isn't nearly as offensive because nowadays, it refers to a foolish person, not a mental disability. In the field of psychology, it was used to refer to a person with the observed cognitive abilities of 10-year-old, give or take a couple of years. I remember a teacher in elementary school telling us that calling a first grader a moron was actually a compliment. I never forgot that.

I don't think it's a valid argument, though, to say that retarded shouldn't be considered offensive because other words once used in the psychological profession--moron, imbecile, idiot, for example--now have more or less mainstream derogatory uses. Language is dynamic, and how a word is commonly understood in a certain milieu (there's a ten-cent word) is what defines it, not what the word meant in the past.

OK, I'm starting to get geeky (I majored in linguistics). :blush:

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i dont think DEMANDING ppl to stop using a word is any more mature than ppl using the word. :whistle:

and its just a word, theres nothing wrong with it, its a problem when ppl see or hear the word and think of it being used as bad thing, its another thing to realise its just a word and you cant tell ppl what words to use when they talk. i say f**ktard and tard or retarded alot, i surely dont associate it with the mentally challenged. retarded can also mean dorky or stupid acting, NOT NESSISARILY mentally challenged. if you have a prob with the word, thats fine, but you cant tell ppl not to use it.

and then there is the word "ionescued" which means someone got their panties in a bunch.

No bunching panites on MY end today, cant say that on other ppls ends tho :)

all that means is you've not been paying attention :whistle:

I have charles, all i did was put my 2 cents in, if thats my panties in a wad, then your panties fell up your ####### a long time ago :P:innocent:

you musta missed something in the ask god thread recently :innocent:

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i dont think DEMANDING ppl to stop using a word is any more mature than ppl using the word. :whistle:

and its just a word, theres nothing wrong with it, its a problem when ppl see or hear the word and think of it being used as bad thing, its another thing to realise its just a word and you cant tell ppl what words to use when they talk. i say f**ktard and tard or retarded alot, i surely dont associate it with the mentally challenged. retarded can also mean dorky or stupid acting, NOT NESSISARILY mentally challenged. if you have a prob with the word, thats fine, but you cant tell ppl not to use it.

and then there is the word "ionescued" which means someone got their panties in a bunch.

No bunching panites on MY end today, cant say that on other ppls ends tho :)

all that means is you've not been paying attention :whistle:

I have charles, all i did was put my 2 cents in, if thats my panties in a wad, then your panties fell up your ####### a long time ago :P:innocent:

you musta missed something in the ask god thread recently :innocent:

you asked for nads? :P

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i dont think DEMANDING ppl to stop using a word is any more mature than ppl using the word. :whistle:

and its just a word, theres nothing wrong with it, its a problem when ppl see or hear the word and think of it being used as bad thing, its another thing to realise its just a word and you cant tell ppl what words to use when they talk. i say f**ktard and tard or retarded alot, i surely dont associate it with the mentally challenged. retarded can also mean dorky or stupid acting, NOT NESSISARILY mentally challenged. if you have a prob with the word, thats fine, but you cant tell ppl not to use it.

and then there is the word "ionescued" which means someone got their panties in a bunch.

No bunching panites on MY end today, cant say that on other ppls ends tho :)

all that means is you've not been paying attention :whistle:

I have charles, all i did was put my 2 cents in, if thats my panties in a wad, then your panties fell up your ####### a long time ago :P:innocent:

you musta missed something in the ask god thread recently :innocent:

you asked for nads? :P

why, did you beat me to that request?

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"Retarded" or "retard" has a place, function and purpose, like most words. There's nothing inherently wrong with the word itself -- it's just a word. Contrary to popular opinion, words themselves cannot hurt you. The purpose and intention behind the word, however, can hurt you.

This is what is often meant when people say "no one can make you feel bad about yourself unless you let them." It's true. If you believe (or care) what someone else says, then you might end up feeling bad if someone else has attempted to insult you. If you let their words slide off you, then their effort will have no effect (other than, perhaps, merely being an annoyance).

I think the same is true with the word "retarded." If you allow others to get under your skin and cause you pain (and that's just what they're hoping they'll do), then the word will quickly become a negative. If you don't let it bother you, then not only will the users of the word probably cease their activity (they won't be getting the reaction they desire), but you won't be upset or angry. It's a win-win situation all around. :)

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"Retarded" or "retard" has a place, function and purpose, like most words. There's nothing inherently wrong with the word itself -- it's just a word. Contrary to popular opinion, words themselves cannot hurt you. The purpose and intention behind the word, however, can hurt you.

This is what is often meant when people say "no one can make you feel bad about yourself unless you let them." It's true. If you believe (or care) what someone else says, then you might end up feeling bad if someone else has attempted to insult you. If you let their words slide off you, then their effort will have no effect (other than, perhaps, merely being an annoyance).

I think the same is true with the word "retarded." If you allow others to get under your skin and cause you pain (and that's just what they're hoping they'll do), then the word will quickly become a negative. If you don't let it bother you, then not only will the users of the word probably cease their activity (they won't be getting the reaction they desire), but you won't be upset or angry. It's a win-win situation all around. :)

Yep. Well said.

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The truth hurts... but people are retarded! I like to say that folks are "clinically retarded"! The term "clinically retarded" is patented. Any such use without the written consent of my organization is subject to punitive damages and potential jail time. :)

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i dont think DEMANDING ppl to stop using a word is any more mature than ppl using the word. :whistle:

and its just a word, theres nothing wrong with it, its a problem when ppl see or hear the word and think of it being used as bad thing, its another thing to realise its just a word and you cant tell ppl what words to use when they talk. i say f**ktard and tard or retarded alot, i surely dont associate it with the mentally challenged. retarded can also mean dorky or stupid acting, NOT NESSISARILY mentally challenged. if you have a prob with the word, thats fine, but you cant tell ppl not to use it.

and then there is the word "ionescued" which means someone got their panties in a bunch.

No bunching panites on MY end today, cant say that on other ppls ends tho :)

all that means is you've not been paying attention :whistle:

I have charles, all i did was put my 2 cents in, if thats my panties in a wad, then your panties fell up your ####### a long time ago :P:innocent:

you musta missed something in the ask god thread recently :innocent:

you asked for nads? :P

why, did you beat me to that request?

i knew you needed some so i asked so i can give them to you for christmas :)

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i dont think DEMANDING ppl to stop using a word is any more mature than ppl using the word. :whistle:

and its just a word, theres nothing wrong with it, its a problem when ppl see or hear the word and think of it being used as bad thing, its another thing to realise its just a word and you cant tell ppl what words to use when they talk. i say f**ktard and tard or retarded alot, i surely dont associate it with the mentally challenged. retarded can also mean dorky or stupid acting, NOT NESSISARILY mentally challenged. if you have a prob with the word, thats fine, but you cant tell ppl not to use it.

and then there is the word "ionescued" which means someone got their panties in a bunch.

No bunching panites on MY end today, cant say that on other ppls ends tho :)

all that means is you've not been paying attention :whistle:

I have charles, all i did was put my 2 cents in, if thats my panties in a wad, then your panties fell up your ####### a long time ago :P:innocent:

you musta missed something in the ask god thread recently :innocent:

you asked for nads? :P

why, did you beat me to that request?

i knew you needed some so i asked so i can give them to you for christmas :)

there better not be teeth marks on them this time...........

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"Retarded" or "retard" has a place, function and purpose, like most words. There's nothing inherently wrong with the word itself -- it's just a word. Contrary to popular opinion, words themselves cannot hurt you. The purpose and intention behind the word, however, can hurt you.

This is what is often meant when people say "no one can make you feel bad about yourself unless you let them." It's true. If you believe (or care) what someone else says, then you might end up feeling bad if someone else has attempted to insult you. If you let their words slide off you, then their effort will have no effect (other than, perhaps, merely being an annoyance).

I think the same is true with the word "retarded." If you allow others to get under your skin and cause you pain (and that's just what they're hoping they'll do), then the word will quickly become a negative. If you don't let it bother you, then not only will the users of the word probably cease their activity (they won't be getting the reaction they desire), but you won't be upset or angry. It's a win-win situation all around. :)

yeah. people look to be offended nowadays.

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We are all a bunch of retards no one perfect lol. We all have some kind of faults.

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