Indoctrinate U is one of the most important documentaries of the year.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

"Non-left academics are harassed for their political views. Students who show a conservative bent are threatened... Campuses are supposed to be marketplaces of ideas where issues stand and fall on their merits. Brainwashing 201 [the short-form precursor to Indoctrinate U] demonstrates effectively that this is now far from the case."

http://indoctrinate-u.com/pages/welcome.html

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Watch out for 'they'! Come on, Rich. Nothing but anecdotal fear mongering. Yes, all the professors in all the universities are cahoots with one another. They all think the same thoughts, share the same ideology and they flunk students who dare to disagree.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

did you watch the trailer?

[GaryC 7]

did you watch the trailer?

I think I see Stevens problem.

j/k Steven

[one...two...tree 2,762]

did you watch the trailer?

Yep. Anecdotal nonsense. If there's an issue with a particular professor then take it up to the school. But to suggest a conspiracy across university campuses that don't allow freedom of thought is silly.

[Caladan 19]

This sort of thing drives me up the wall. Economics departments skew conservative, as do most of the sciences. Philosophy departments tend to skew argumentative (I've helped interview candidates who argued for the morality of torture; we didn't go 'oh noes we can give him a job!') The humanities tend to skew liberal in polls, but that does NOT translate into a program of brainwashing (after all, some of you managed to graduate college and be conservative), because 99% of the time, it doesn't come up.

I teach at a scary-scary university that some might even call the bastion (dark chords) of the liberal academy. I teach philosophy of religion there. I am not on any do-not-hire lists for doing so. I do not brainwash kids into denying the existence of God. I even receive great student recommendations on how fair I run the classroom. From kids who had to have been told by their pastors that I'd spend the semester telling them how stupid they were for believing in God, because they were terrified I'd flunk them for disagreeing. How were they to know better? They were 18. They weren't flunked. They came in and had a nice discussion. They learned a lot.

And I don't believe I'm an anomaly.

Maybe philosophy's just weird, but this idea of programs of brainwashing where no dissent is tolerated really doesn't hold water in a discipline that is 99% about arguing.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

did you watch the trailer?

I think I see Stevens problem.

j/k Steven

Next thing we'll hear is all campuses are conservative.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Next thing we'll hear is all campuses are conservative.

Just like the MSM

[Dan J 277]

This sort of thing drives me up the wall. Economics departments skew conservative, as do most of the sciences. Philosophy departments tend to skew argumentative (I've helped interview candidates who argued for the morality of torture; we didn't go 'oh noes we can give him a job!') The humanities tend to skew liberal in polls, but that does NOT translate into a program of brainwashing (after all, some of you managed to graduate college and be conservative), because 99% of the time, it doesn't come up.

I teach at a scary-scary university that some might even call the bastion (dark chords) of the liberal academy. I teach philosophy of religion there. I am not on any do-not-hire lists for doing so. I do not brainwash kids into denying the existence of God. I even receive great student recommendations on how fair I run the classroom. From kids who had to have been told by their pastors that I'd spend the semester telling them how stupid they were for believing in God, because they were terrified I'd flunk them for disagreeing. How were they to know better? They were 18. They weren't flunked. They came in and had a nice discussion. They learned a lot.

And I don't believe I'm an anomaly.

Maybe philosophy's just weird, but this idea of programs of brainwashing where no dissent is tolerated really doesn't hold water in a discipline that is 99% about arguing.

Debate, discussion, arguments, tend not to be very conducive to religions. Which often rely on the control of information. If it cant be controlled, other opinions and ideas are discredited in some way.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

As they say: Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get you.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

One of the most important documentaries of the year eh?

Slapping a shiny new package on the same, hackneyed old bull$hit.

[Caladan 19]

This sort of thing drives me up the wall. Economics departments skew conservative, as do most of the sciences. Philosophy departments tend to skew argumentative (I've helped interview candidates who argued for the morality of torture; we didn't go 'oh noes we can give him a job!') The humanities tend to skew liberal in polls, but that does NOT translate into a program of brainwashing (after all, some of you managed to graduate college and be conservative), because 99% of the time, it doesn't come up.

I teach at a scary-scary university that some might even call the bastion (dark chords) of the liberal academy. I teach philosophy of religion there. I am not on any do-not-hire lists for doing so. I do not brainwash kids into denying the existence of God. I even receive great student recommendations on how fair I run the classroom. From kids who had to have been told by their pastors that I'd spend the semester telling them how stupid they were for believing in God, because they were terrified I'd flunk them for disagreeing. How were they to know better? They were 18. They weren't flunked. They came in and had a nice discussion. They learned a lot.

And I don't believe I'm an anomaly.

Maybe philosophy's just weird, but this idea of programs of brainwashing where no dissent is tolerated really doesn't hold water in a discipline that is 99% about arguing.

Debate, discussion, arguments, tend not to be very conducive to religions. Which often rely on the control of information. If it cant be controlled, other opinions and ideas are discredited in some way.

I 100% disagree. Come take my class.

[Dan J 277]

This sort of thing drives me up the wall. Economics departments skew conservative, as do most of the sciences. Philosophy departments tend to skew argumentative (I've helped interview candidates who argued for the morality of torture; we didn't go 'oh noes we can give him a job!') The humanities tend to skew liberal in polls, but that does NOT translate into a program of brainwashing (after all, some of you managed to graduate college and be conservative), because 99% of the time, it doesn't come up.

I teach at a scary-scary university that some might even call the bastion (dark chords) of the liberal academy. I teach philosophy of religion there. I am not on any do-not-hire lists for doing so. I do not brainwash kids into denying the existence of God. I even receive great student recommendations on how fair I run the classroom. From kids who had to have been told by their pastors that I'd spend the semester telling them how stupid they were for believing in God, because they were terrified I'd flunk them for disagreeing. How were they to know better? They were 18. They weren't flunked. They came in and had a nice discussion. They learned a lot.

And I don't believe I'm an anomaly.

Maybe philosophy's just weird, but this idea of programs of brainwashing where no dissent is tolerated really doesn't hold water in a discipline that is 99% about arguing.

Debate, discussion, arguments, tend not to be very conducive to religions. Which often rely on the control of information. If it cant be controlled, other opinions and ideas are discredited in some way.

I 100% disagree. Come take my class.

I probably should have been a little bit more clear.

Many religions (not all) are very authoritarian about their beliefs. Debate and discussion is not encouraged. You can have a fair debate about God(s), but there are those who would discourage it. Because discussing other possibilities goes against the foundations of their belief.

This authoritarianism vs open debate discussion even happens in politics. How often do conservatives engage in a real debate about problems and solutions, instead of taking the talk show, this is how it is approach, and everyone else is stupid.

I think authoritarianism appeals to certain types of people. Its more comfortable when things are certain or absolute.

[Caladan 19]

Still disagree 100%. Some religious people are allergic to argument and discussion, but historically that's not the whole picture. And it's not true in contemporary debates, either.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

did you watch the trailer?

I think I see Stevens problem.

j/k Steven

Dont lie Gary We all know what j/k means after a great big kik in the sack! Steves a big boy. Steve nice tan by the way!

Edited October 11, 2007 by CarolsMarc