Nearly 1 in 5 Democrats Say World Will Be Better Off if U.S. Loses War

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Did I suggest that was a good idea? Woah neddy! However, back to the poll...I don't think anyone can paint the Democratic party or any part thereof as undemocratic on the back of it.

Before you start, I don't support the Democrats, I have no axe to grind. I would be equallly appalled if someone used that poll to suggest that Republicans never want the war to end. We are just back where we started though, this poll produced no useful data for consideration.

Now, who wants to suggest a workable exit strategy?

The strategy is to finish what we started! Therefore no need to exit until the job is done.

And, what is the job exactly?

That seems to depend on what date or maybe even day of the week it is.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Did I suggest that was a good idea? Woah neddy! However, back to the poll...I don't think anyone can paint the Democratic party or any part thereof as undemocratic on the back of it.

Before you start, I don't support the Democrats, I have no axe to grind. I would be equallly appalled if someone used that poll to suggest that Republicans never want the war to end. We are just back where we started though, this poll produced no useful data for consideration.

Now, who wants to suggest a workable exit strategy?

The strategy is to finish what we started! Therefore no need to exit until the job is done.

And, what is the job exactly?

That seems to depend on what date or maybe even day of the week it is.

...and who's telling the story...

[Cassie 8]

Did I suggest that was a good idea? Woah neddy! However, back to the poll...I don't think anyone can paint the Democratic party or any part thereof as undemocratic on the back of it.

Before you start, I don't support the Democrats, I have no axe to grind. I would be equallly appalled if someone used that poll to suggest that Republicans never want the war to end. We are just back where we started though, this poll produced no useful data for consideration.

Now, who wants to suggest a workable exit strategy?

The strategy is to finish what we started! Therefore no need to exit until the job is done.

And, what is the job exactly?

That seems to depend on what date or maybe even day of the week it is.

...and who's telling the story...

:thumbs: :thumbs:

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Did I suggest that was a good idea? Woah neddy! However, back to the poll...I don't think anyone can paint the Democratic party or any part thereof as undemocratic on the back of it.

Before you start, I don't support the Democrats, I have no axe to grind. I would be equallly appalled if someone used that poll to suggest that Republicans never want the war to end. We are just back where we started though, this poll produced no useful data for consideration.

Now, who wants to suggest a workable exit strategy?

The strategy is to finish what we started! Therefore no need to exit until the job is done.

And, what is the job exactly?

Please refer to all the posts you have made in this thread. Maybe you will find the answer about the job were doing there!

Edited October 8, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[mRx 16]

Terrorists exist because they believe in concepts and ideals totally foreign to the average American.

Terrorists do not exist because they believe faithfully in their cause. No, you are giving them too much credit. Terrorists and insurgents are paid very well to carry out attacks. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a business. If you stop the funding, you shut down the business. Each AQ leader killed destabilizes this business. With each benefactor captured, terrorism takes a pay cut. We are sending the message that terrorism is not a stable career choice.

[Nagishkaw 510]

I totally agree, Sarge.

[Peikko 1,575]

I am interested to know what the going rate for a suicide bombing is? A place in heaven might seem a good deal to an idealist, but it's not such a good business proposition in my opinion.

Not sure how this threat got onto the science of terrorism, but there you go...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Terrorists do not exist because they believe faithfully in their cause. No, you are giving them too much credit. Terrorists and insurgents are paid very well to carry out attacks. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a business. If you stop the funding, you shut down the business. Each AQ leader killed destabilizes this business. With each benefactor captured, terrorism takes a pay cut. We are sending the message that terrorism is not a stable career choice.

Did you make this up all on your own? Suicide bombing has always been a pretty short lived career, no?

[Peikko 1,575]

Having lived in a society where terrorism was part of the daily fabric, I can say definitively that it's not a simple business transaction.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Terrorists do not exist because they believe faithfully in their cause. No, you are giving them too much credit. Terrorists and insurgents are paid very well to carry out attacks. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a business. If you stop the funding, you shut down the business. Each AQ leader killed destabilizes this business. With each benefactor captured, terrorism takes a pay cut. We are sending the message that terrorism is not a stable career choice.

Did you make this up all on your own? Suicide bombing has always been a pretty short lived career, no?

i've seen payments to their families in the range of 30-50k, which is a chunk of change in the 3rd world.

[GaryC 7]

Having lived in a society where terrorism was part of the daily fabric, I can say definitively that it's not a simple business transaction.

Saddam would pay $25K to the family of a suicide bomber I think.

Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers

Tuesday, March 26, 2002

By Ken Layne

Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers — a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers' families.

In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 — a bonus for the families of martyrs, to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Terrorists do not exist because they believe faithfully in their cause. No, you are giving them too much credit. Terrorists and insurgents are paid very well to carry out attacks. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a business. If you stop the funding, you shut down the business. Each AQ leader killed destabilizes this business. With each benefactor captured, terrorism takes a pay cut. We are sending the message that terrorism is not a stable career choice.

Did you make this up all on your own? Suicide bombing has always been a pretty short lived career, no?

i've seen payments to their families in the range of 30-50k, which is a chunk of change in the 3rd world.

So, you're saying that folks have kids so they can have them blow themselves up for the money?

And so the father goes: "Well son, we made our investment in you got you big and strong enough to do the one thing we had you for. It's time for you to fulfill your sole purpose. Go strap that thing on and blow yourself up so we can get some food on this damn table."

I don't think so.

[no name 1]

Having lived in a society where terrorism was part of the daily fabric, I can say definitively that it's not a simple business transaction.

Saddam would pay $25K to the family of a suicide bomber I think.

Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers

Tuesday, March 26, 2002

By Ken Layne

Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers — a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers' families.

In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 — a bonus for the families of martyrs, to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html

well the govt is pretty much nonexistant & SH is certainly gone, who is paying now???

PS: Terrorism is not a business or a career choice, if anything it's a (ONE TIME) payoff. VJ sheesh.

Edited October 8, 2007 by devilette

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Terrorists do not exist because they believe faithfully in their cause. No, you are giving them too much credit. Terrorists and insurgents are paid very well to carry out attacks. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a business. If you stop the funding, you shut down the business. Each AQ leader killed destabilizes this business. With each benefactor captured, terrorism takes a pay cut. We are sending the message that terrorism is not a stable career choice.

Did you make this up all on your own? Suicide bombing has always been a pretty short lived career, no?

i've seen payments to their families in the range of 30-50k, which is a chunk of change in the 3rd world.

So, you're saying that folks have kids so they can have them blow themselves up for the money?

And so the father goes: "Well son, we made our investment in you got you big and strong enough to do the one thing we had you for. It's time for you to fulfill your sole purpose. Go strap that thing on and blow yourself up so we can get some food on this damn table."

I don't think so.

i didn't paint that picture, you did.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Terrorists do not exist because they believe faithfully in their cause. No, you are giving them too much credit. Terrorists and insurgents are paid very well to carry out attacks. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a business. If you stop the funding, you shut down the business. Each AQ leader killed destabilizes this business. With each benefactor captured, terrorism takes a pay cut. We are sending the message that terrorism is not a stable career choice.

Did you make this up all on your own? Suicide bombing has always been a pretty short lived career, no?

i've seen payments to their families in the range of 30-50k, which is a chunk of change in the 3rd world.

So, you're saying that folks have kids so they can have them blow themselves up for the money?

And so the father goes: "Well son, we made our investment in you got you big and strong enough to do the one thing we had you for. It's time for you to fulfill your sole purpose. Go strap that thing on and blow yourself up so we can get some food on this damn table."

I don't think so.

i didn't paint that picture, you did.

Matt did. He called terrorism a career path. Which it clearly isn't - at least not for the foot soldiers.