Mexican Flag Flown Illegally Over Reno Business

[smoke20 0]

nothing justifies the attitude on that old guy, he just acted like an arsehole, and I know American Patriotism means more than acting like a rabid 15 year old girl.. he's insulting the veterans by also justifying his stupid circus act as something a veteran who cares about his country would do

in your opinion. (& i agree. he way over reacted) obviously he didn't think so.

[pedroh 21]

nothing justifies the attitude on that old guy, he just acted like an arsehole, and I know American Patriotism means more than acting like a rabid 15 year old girl.. he's insulting the veterans by also justifying his stupid circus act as something a veteran who cares about his country would do

in your opinion. (& i agree. he way over reacted) obviously he didn't think so.

I'd hold any countries Patriotism higher than acting like a little ######, I think he's insulting all the true patriots or people that are proud of the USA..

[Addie_Goodvibes 0]

nothing justifies the attitude on that old guy, he just acted like an arsehole, and I know American Patriotism means more than acting like a rabid 15 year old girl.. he's insulting the veterans by also justifying his stupid circus act as something a veteran who cares about his country would do

I agree, this Old Coot does not represent the populous of Veterens in this country, it is embarrasing the way he conducted himself and i agree he should be prosecuted.

A better way of handling would be to simply approach the shop owner ( Preferrably w/out his "army Knife") and kindly respectful inform the Owner that he is improperly displaying the US Flag and maybe offer some literature citing proper ways of displaying the flag. Even mentioning to the shop owner, that maybe he should display the flag properly so he doesn't run into public outcry from old looney Vets with an Army Knife.

What a farking idiot.

Edited October 4, 2007 by Addie_Goodvibes

[smoke20 0]

I have never known a country to be so obsessed about flag flying. It's a symbol of something, it's not a sacred cow.

i'm not obsessed about flag flying. but, i have to disagree w/ you on that one. to me & many others the US flag is a sacred symbol.

I must be un-American then. I appreciate what the flag means, but it's not sacred by any means. It's just a piece of fabric and they make new ones every day.

who said you were un-American? if you don't feel the flag is sacred..thats your opinion. & when those "pieces of fabric" are sewed together, like i said to me & many others it is sacred.

nothing justifies the attitude on that old guy, he just acted like an arsehole, and I know American Patriotism means more than acting like a rabid 15 year old girl.. he's insulting the veterans by also justifying his stupid circus act as something a veteran who cares about his country would do

in your opinion. (& i agree. he way over reacted) obviously he didn't think so.

I'd hold any countries Patriotism higher than acting like a little ######, I think he's insulting all the true patriots or people that are proud of the USA..

define " true patriots" to me please.

[DeadPoolX 9]

I have never known a country to be so obsessed about flag flying. It's a symbol of something, it's not a sacred cow.

i'm not obsessed about flag flying. but, i have to disagree w/ you on that one. to me & many others the US flag is a sacred symbol.

I must be un-American then. I appreciate what the flag means, but it's not sacred by any means. It's just a piece of fabric and they make new ones every day.

I think you're missing the point.

Of course the flag itself is a piece of fabric and new flags are being constantly made. No one denies that. Where the whole "sacred symbolism" comes into the picture is what the flag itself stands for in American culture and society.

It's like any other "sacred symbol." Take a religious one, for instance, like the cross. What is that, really? It could be wood, plastic, or metal (silver, gold, platinum) and they make new ones every day, but I have a good feeling that the cross means a little more to many Christians than some "non-sacred object made out of whatever material the designer chose." It has a definite place within the Christian religion and is sacred in that mindset.

The same is true of any other important symbol. What it's made out of is relatively insignificant. What matters is the purpose it was created for and the people who find it important.

[Addie_Goodvibes 0]

Well I can definatly say that taking ones Army Knife and cutting down the US Flag in a fit of rage while spewing Fighting words is Not True Patriotism in fact it is not patriotism in any sense of the word,

[Peikko 1,575]

As I said in my follow up, having symbols is useful, but to create 'sacred symbols' is to raise the symbol above that which it symbolises (in the minds of many at least) which is to my mind crazy. It is also unchristian, for those who care about that aspect of it.

[pedroh 21]

I have never known a country to be so obsessed about flag flying. It's a symbol of something, it's not a sacred cow.

i'm not obsessed about flag flying. but, i have to disagree w/ you on that one. to me & many others the US flag is a sacred symbol.

I must be un-American then. I appreciate what the flag means, but it's not sacred by any means. It's just a piece of fabric and they make new ones every day.

who said you were un-American? if you don't feel the flag is sacred..thats your opinion. & when those "pieces of fabric" are sewed together, like i said to me & many others it is sacred.

nothing justifies the attitude on that old guy, he just acted like an arsehole, and I know American Patriotism means more than acting like a rabid 15 year old girl.. he's insulting the veterans by also justifying his stupid circus act as something a veteran who cares about his country would do

in your opinion. (& i agree. he way over reacted) obviously he didn't think so.

I'd hold any countries Patriotism higher than acting like a little ######, I think he's insulting all the true patriots or people that are proud of the USA..

define " true patriots" to me please.

to start with, not acting like a little b!tch like that old coot.. someone proud of the USA and what it stands for wouldn't tolerate his actions, patriotism is not acting all Rambo because of the incorrect protocol of flag display..

and I agree Addie, ripping the flag is way worse than the position under the other flag

[DeadPoolX 9]

As I said in my follow up, having symbols is useful, but to create 'sacred symbols' is to raise the symbol above that which it symbolises (in the minds of many at least) which is to my mind crazy. It is also unchristian, for those who care about that aspect of it.

I guess I just don't understand that argument. Sorry.

Anytime "sacred symbols" are made (for anything), they are in effect, created and raised above what they originally symbolized. The example I used before (the cross) is a good one. Originally, that had nothing to do with Christianity. The cross was simply a take on crucifixion, which was an ancient method of execution used by the Roman Empire. Off-hand, I'd say that's pretty weird (and perhaps a bit morbid), to have an "execution method" dangling around your neck as a pendant, but that doesn't seem to faze very many people.

The point, however, is that in time, the cross became elevated from what it originally was to what it is now. Was that crazy? It was "created to become a 'sacred symbol' and raise above what it originally symbolized." Was it "unchristian?" Interesting questions, I'd say.

If all of the above was "okay" for the cross, then it's okay for the American Flag. Otherwise, we'd better re-evaluate our outlook on the cross as well.

[smoke20 0]

to start with, not acting like a little b!tch like that old coot.. someone proud of the USA and what it stands for wouldn't tolerate his actions, patriotism is not acting all Rambo because of the incorrect protocol of flag display..

like i said the guy way over reacted. but, you said "I think he's insulting all the true patriots or people that are proud of the USA"

now please define "true patriot". don't call him a b!tch, define it. you said it...what's it mean?

[almaty 19]

nothing justifies the attitude on that old guy, he just acted like an arsehole, and I know American Patriotism means more than acting like a rabid 15 year old girl.. he's insulting the veterans by also justifying his stupid circus act as something a veteran who cares about his country would do

I agree, this Old Coot does not represent the populous of Veterens in this country, it is embarrasing the way he conducted himself and i agree he should be prosecuted.

A better way of handling would be to simply approach the shop owner ( Preferrably w/out his "army Knife") and kindly respectful inform the Owner that he is improperly displaying the US Flag and maybe offer some literature citing proper ways of displaying the flag. Even mentioning to the shop owner, that maybe he should display the flag properly so he doesn't run into public outcry from old looney Vets with an Army Knife.

What a farking idiot.

an excellent post

[Peikko 1,575]

I would say in answer to your cross analogy, that any Christian who sees the symbol of Christianity as more important, more sacred than the message, has indeed lost the plot and is behaving in an unchristian manner. The symbol of the cross is useful to remind a Christian of certain aspects of Christianity that are important, but to protect the cross, rather than the message would be ridiculous.

[caybee 21]

In Southern Ca. near the beach cities a lot of homes have Flags US Flags College Flags ect..

The USA flags are flown 24/7 on the strand with no proper ligting, often hung below the level of their USC/UCLA flags.

I have seen them used as table clothes draped over balconies. ect.. I even see them dragging the ground. During the $th Of July Holiday we see people wearing the flag as a costume or cape.

I work next to a fortune 500 Corp. One day on the way to my office I noticed the US Flag displayed improperly at this business. They mistakenly were flying the US Flag Upside, I went inside and asked them if they werre under siege ( As they were flying the international distress signal by displaying the flag upside down. I also always see them taking it down at dusk and just wadding it up in a ball to stick in a card board box. That is disrespectful.

So if we are going to police immigrants for displaying their flags unkowingly in violation of US Flag Policy we should address Citizens for their mis use and improper display of the US Flag

I agree. I find it far more disrespectful to see the U.S. flag flown dirty and torn in all kinds of weather or tangled around a pole for days on end than to see another country's flag flown alone on private property, even at a privately owned business. Only exception, IMO, is if our flag became torn and dirty as a result of a crisis and is being used to symbolize hope and boost morale, which is a rare thing. I see far more abused U.S. flags than I do international flags. But who knocks on the door of a residence or goes into a business and requests that they have their dirty, torn U.S. flag cleaned or mended or disposed of respectfully -- or even takes it upon themselves to "rescue" the flag from disrespect by trespassing? And I won't even touch the businesses that fly the ginormous flags purely as a marketing tool the same way they use fake blimps and those gosh-awful inflatable hydra-looking things.

Granted, I can't remember when I've seen the U.S. flag flown under another flag on the same pole. There are certainly many people in my area of the country who choose to fly the Confederate flag alone, and last time I checked, we weren't living in the CSA either.

Edited October 4, 2007 by mona_jamie

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

In Southern Ca. near the beach cities a lot of homes have Flags US Flags College Flags ect..

The USA flags are flown 24/7 on the strand with no proper ligting, often hung below the level of their USC/UCLA flags.

I have seen them used as table clothes draped over balconies. ect.. I even see them dragging the ground. During the $th Of July Holiday we see people wearing the flag as a costume or cape.

I work next to a fortune 500 Corp. One day on the way to my office I noticed the US Flag displayed improperly at this business. They mistakenly were flying the US Flag Upside, I went inside and asked them if they werre under siege ( As they were flying the international distress signal by displaying the flag upside down. I also always see them taking it down at dusk and just wadding it up in a ball to stick in a card board box. That is disrespectful.

So if we are going to police immigrants for displaying their flags unkowingly in violation of US Flag Policy we should address Citizens for their mis use and improper display of the US Flag

I agree. I find it far more disrespectful to see the U.S. flag flown dirty and torn in all kinds of weather or tangled around a pole for days on end than to see another country's flag flown alone on private property, even at a privately owned business. Only exception, IMO, is if our flag became torn and dirty as a result of a crisis and is being used to symbolize hope and boost morale, which is a rare thing. I see far more abused U.S. flags than I do international flags. But who knocks on the door of a residence or goes into a business and requests that they have their dirty, torn U.S. flag cleaned or mended or disposed of respectfully -- or even takes it upon themselves to "rescue" the flag from disrespect by trespassing? And I won't even touch the businesses that fly the ginormous flags purely as a marketing tool the same way they use fake blimps and those gosh-awful inflatable hydra-looking things.

Granted, I can't remember when I've seen the U.S. flag flown under another flag on the same pole. There are certainly many people in my area of the country who choose to fly the Confederate flag alone, and last time I checked, we weren't living in the CSA either.

speaking of which....those who do have unserviceable flags, contact your local american legion. they conduct a ceremony to dispose of them.

Q: How are unserviceable flags destroyed?

A:The Flag Code suggests that, "when a flag has served its useful purpose, it should be destroyed, preferably by burning." For individual citizens, this should be done discreetly so the act of destruction is not perceived as a protest or desecration. Many American Legion Posts conduct Disposal of Unserviceable Flag Ceremonies on June 14, Flag Day. This ceremony creates a particularly dignified and solemn occasion for the retirement of unserviceable flags.

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[Peikko 1,575]

Oh sacred, sacred cows. Actually, I'd prefer people to give cows the same dignity that some people would like to see bestowed on a flag. Really, the mind boggles.