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As the 2008 presidential campaign revs up, St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke is reprising his role from 2004.

Four years ago, Burke drew international attention when he said that if Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry approached him for Holy Communion, Burke would deny Kerry the sacrament.

This time, there's a Republican Catholic whose position on abortion rights contradicts church teaching. And Burke is pressing the issue again, saying that anyone — not just a bishop — administering Communion is morally obligated to deny it to wayward Catholic politicians.

Next month, Burke is expected to push the nation's bishops to adopt his position in a document on political responsibility they will issue to Catholics before the election.

Of the six Catholics running for president, only Republican Sen. Sam Brownback has a legislative record on abortion that meets the church's approval. Along with Republican Rudy Giuliani, Democrats Sen. Joseph Biden, Sen. Christopher Dodd, Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Gov. Bill Richardson all have public records that are inconsistent with church teaching on abortion rights.

"It is a cause of concern for me and for all bishops to find ourselves in this situation," Burke said in an interview last week.

Asked if he would deny Communion to Giuliani if the former New York mayor approached him for the sacrament at the Cathedral Basilica, Burke said: "If the question is about a Catholic who is publicly espousing positions contrary to the moral law and I know that person knows it, yes I would."

In an interview earlier this year, Burke said of Giuliani: "I can't imagine that as a Catholic he doesn't know that his stance on the protection of human life is wrong. If someone is publicly sinning, they should not approach to receive Holy Communion."

John Green, senior fellow in religion and American politics at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, said Burke's comment about Giuliani "could attract attention to where the candidate stands. ... And in that way it could have a very powerful indirect effect" on Giluiani's candidacy. RELATED LINK

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In an August poll by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, 22 percent of the public — and 31 percent of Republicans — said they knew Giuliani supports abortion rights.

Ted Jelen, a political science professor at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas, said the archbishop's comment about Giuliani is significant since Giuliani "has to run in the Republican primary, where religious issues are important."

A Giuliani campaign spokesman, Elliott Bundy, said in an e-mail: "This is a decision that should be left up to the bishops and the priests of the Church." Giuliani has refused to talk publicly about how he lives his Catholic faith, and Bundy would not answer questions about whether Giuliani regularly receives Communion, saying only, "Those issues are private." Giuliani is expected to be in Clayton on Thursday for a breakfast fundraising event at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.

None of the other Catholic presidential candidates' campaigns responded to interview requests.

Mara Vanderslice, the Kerry campaign's faith outreach liaison in 2004 and now a senior partner with Common Good Strategies in Washington, said Burke's comment about Kerry was "misrepresented in the press" as being the position of the majority of U.S. bishops when Burke's statements "were well outside the mainstream and continue to be outside the mainstream."

Vanderslice said the coverage had a negative impact on Kerry's campaign, "So it will be interesting to see if this time it will have the same impact on Giuliani."

After Burke's comments about Kerry in 2004, the archbishop was pilloried by critics who said he was acting as a shill for President George W. Bush's campaign.

Burke's comments about Giuliani show the archbishop to be an equal-opportunity enforcer of canon law, Green said.

"This shows the bishop is consistent and nonpartisan on this issue," he said. "Some felt this was a covert maneuver by the church (in 2004), but that doesn't appear to be the case."

What has provoked the chatter on blogs is an article Burke wrote in a prestigious but obscure Catholic legal journal. In the article, Burke says that as long as the politician in question had been cautioned by a church authority not to receive Communion, and has refused to heed those warnings, any Catholics qualified to serve the Eucharist — and who knew of the warning — would be committing a mortal sin if they failed to deny Communion to that politician. That includes lay people, as well as those who are ordained.

"That is the point," Burke said. "That's been, consistently, the church's position."

By January 2004, Kerry had been warned by his bishop not to receive Communion in Boston because of his public support for abortion rights. That month, a Post-Dispatch reporter asked Burke if he would deny Kerry the sacrament if the senator approached him for Communion at the Cathedral Basilica.

"I would have to admonish him not to present himself for Communion," Burke said. "I might give him a blessing or whatever, but if his archbishop has told him that he's not to present himself for Communion, then he should not."

The archbishop said he was struck by the public reaction to his comment, and by the fact that so many Catholics didn't understand the issue. That reaction led him to question his own understanding of the church law that governs the issue, Canon 915, so he began researching it in 2005 and studied it for two years.

Burke is widely recognized as one of the sharpest legal minds in the Catholic church. He is a sitting member of the Vatican's highest judicial authority, the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signature. His colleagues praised the scholarship in Burke's article.

"This is very well done research on an issue he likes to pursue," said the Rev. Roland Jacques, dean of the canon law school at St. Paul University in Ottawa. "He has it all. It is really, really well done."

David Gibson, author of a recent book about Pope Benedict XVI, said Burke's article was "an effort to justify his actions from the previous election cycle" and "to justify and expand his position."

The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, editor of the Catholic journal First Things, said Burke's reasons for writing were probably more pastoral. "He is concerned because he believes the teaching of the church is being misrepresented to the detriment of the integrity of Catholic teaching, and most importantly to the integrity of the Holy Eucharist," he said.

Last week, Burke said he had written the article simply to clarify traditional church teaching. He said that in denying Communion to wayward politicians, the church was not judging their souls, rather it was protecting them. It also is protecting the sacredness of the Eucharist and the Catholic faithful from scandal, he said.

On Tuesday, the bishops said they plan to re-evaluate their document, "Faithful Citizenship: A Catholic Call to Political Responsibility," when they meet next month.

"I think Archbishop Burke is going to want to make sure that document has something in it about denying Communion to pro-choice politicians," said the Rev. Thomas Reese of the Woodstock Theological Center in Washington. "And if what he wants is not in there, I'm sure he'll be offering amendments."

stfu archbishop....

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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Archbishop Burke is a (see picture above)!!!!!

Life's just a crazy ride on a run away train

You can't go back for what you've missed

So make it count, hold on tight find a way to make it right

You only get one trip

So make it good, make it last 'cause it all flies by so fast

You only get one trip

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Ha Ha.........I just pictured him saying that "NO BODY AND BLOOD FOR YOU!".

Life's just a crazy ride on a run away train

You can't go back for what you've missed

So make it count, hold on tight find a way to make it right

You only get one trip

So make it good, make it last 'cause it all flies by so fast

You only get one trip

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