Tax forms neccessary to proove income?

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I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

Single taxpayers. If you expect to file a single return, the IRS requires you to file a return for 2006 if your gross income for the year is at least:

$8,450 if you are under age 65. $9,700 if you are at least age 65.

That part of MEOW MIX's post is correct. The rest is not quite.

First, you do not "file" an I-134 for a K1 visa. You send it to your fiance(e) who then hands it over to a Consular officer, when asked. For AOS, you do "file" an I-864 with at least one tax return with the AOS application. If your income was below the minimum filing requirement, in either case, you may substitute a signed statement from you stating you were not required to file a tax return because your income was X and the minimum was Y.

For the I-134, no tax return is actually required but it is adviseable. So, either the return or statement is a good idea.

For the I-874 at AOS, you will get an RFE for the tax return, if you don't provided it or the statement.

Just to make sure you understand, income is the key, not steady work.

[athena_ny 1]

I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf shows the minimum filing amount.

Single with no dependents is $8450.

I am not super familiar with the I-134 so you may be able to get through that without a tax return - but the I-864 wants it, unless you have enough assets (which if you don't have a steady income, I highly doubt you do). I-864 is part of adjusting status so your fiancee can get her green card, so no tax returns, no green card.

[athena_ny 1]

I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

Single taxpayers. If you expect to file a single return, the IRS requires you to file a return for 2006 if your gross income for the year is at least:

$8,450 if you are under age 65. $9,700 if you are at least age 65.

That part of MEOW MIX's post is correct. The rest is not quite.

First, you do not "file" an I-134 for a K1 visa. You send it to your fiance(e) who then hands it over to a Consular officer, when asked. For AOS, you do "file" an I-864 with at least one tax return with the AOS application. If your income was below the minimum filing requirement, in either case, you may substitute a signed statement from you stating you were not required to file a tax return because your income was X and the minimum was Y.

For the I-134, no tax return is actually required but it is adviseable. So, either the return or statement is a good idea.

For the I-874 at AOS, you will get an RFE for the tax return, if you don't provided it or the statement.

Just to make sure you understand, income is the key, not steady work.

Yeah, I realized the second wasn't totally right. Oops. But either way, the I-864 requires the tax return, and as far as I'm concerned, the green card is really the most important thing...getting here is only half the battle. Thanks for catching me

[Just Cool 0]

I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

Single taxpayers. If you expect to file a single return, the IRS requires you to file a return for 2006 if your gross income for the year is at least:

$8,450 if you are under age 65. $9,700 if you are at least age 65.

That part of MEOW MIX's post is correct. The rest is not quite.

First, you do not "file" an I-134 for a K1 visa. You send it to your fiance(e) who then hands it over to a Consular officer, when asked. For AOS, you do "file" an I-864 with at least one tax return with the AOS application. If your income was below the minimum filing requirement, in either case, you may substitute a signed statement from you stating you were not required to file a tax return because your income was X and the minimum was Y.

For the I-134, no tax return is actually required but it is adviseable. So, either the return or statement is a good idea.

For the I-874 at AOS, you will get an RFE for the tax return, if you don't provided it or the statement.

Just to make sure you understand, income is the key, not steady work.

Yeah, I realized the second wasn't totally right. Oops. But either way, the I-864 requires the tax return, and as far as I'm concerned, the green card is really the most important thing...getting here is only half the battle. Thanks for catching me

Ok, im clear on that with k1 visa its possible without this return,. but you make a point about the green card aos. Has anyone done this before, file except from filing taxes from making under the limit, then had a cosponsor and was able to succesfully get a greencard?

[Just Cool 0]

I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

Also, where on the i134 would i make note of not meeting the income requirement, and do they verify this against banking info?

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

Single taxpayers. If you expect to file a single return, the IRS requires you to file a return for 2006 if your gross income for the year is at least:

$8,450 if you are under age 65. $9,700 if you are at least age 65.

That part of MEOW MIX's post is correct. The rest is not quite.

First, you do not "file" an I-134 for a K1 visa. You send it to your fiance(e) who then hands it over to a Consular officer, when asked. For AOS, you do "file" an I-864 with at least one tax return with the AOS application. If your income was below the minimum filing requirement, in either case, you may substitute a signed statement from you stating you were not required to file a tax return because your income was X and the minimum was Y.

For the I-134, no tax return is actually required but it is adviseable. So, either the return or statement is a good idea.

For the I-874 at AOS, you will get an RFE for the tax return, if you don't provided it or the statement.

Just to make sure you understand, income is the key, not steady work.

Yeah, I realized the second wasn't totally right. Oops. But either way, the I-864 requires the tax return, and as far as I'm concerned, the green card is really the most important thing...getting here is only half the battle. Thanks for catching me

but you make a point about the green card aos. Has anyone done this before, file except from filing taxes from making under the limit, then had a cosponsor and was able to succesfully get a greencard?

I still wish i could know 100% what will happnen if i submit my baking info with nothing else for this k1 visa

Edited October 9, 2007 by Just Cool

[athena_ny 1]

I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

Also, where on the i134 would i make note of not meeting the income requirement, and do they verify this against banking info?

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

Single taxpayers. If you expect to file a single return, the IRS requires you to file a return for 2006 if your gross income for the year is at least:

$8,450 if you are under age 65. $9,700 if you are at least age 65.

That part of MEOW MIX's post is correct. The rest is not quite.

First, you do not "file" an I-134 for a K1 visa. You send it to your fiance(e) who then hands it over to a Consular officer, when asked. For AOS, you do "file" an I-864 with at least one tax return with the AOS application. If your income was below the minimum filing requirement, in either case, you may substitute a signed statement from you stating you were not required to file a tax return because your income was X and the minimum was Y.

For the I-134, no tax return is actually required but it is adviseable. So, either the return or statement is a good idea.

For the I-874 at AOS, you will get an RFE for the tax return, if you don't provided it or the statement.

Just to make sure you understand, income is the key, not steady work.

Yeah, I realized the second wasn't totally right. Oops. But either way, the I-864 requires the tax return, and as far as I'm concerned, the green card is really the most important thing...getting here is only half the battle. Thanks for catching me

but you make a point about the green card aos. Has anyone done this before, file except from filing taxes from making under the limit, then had a cosponsor and was able to succesfully get a greencard?

I still wish i could know 100% what will happnen if i submit my baking info with nothing else for this k1 visa

The I-864 says multiple times that you MUST submit a tax return with the I-864, unless you can cite the tax code where it says you are exempt from filing (most common being making under the filing requirement). Not doing so would result in an RFE, and I personally have not seen anyone who hasn't submitted taxes not get RFE'd for them. It also says "all" sponsors must submit this, and not just the co-sponsor. The taxes are of the utmost importance with the I-864,even though it isn't with the I-134.

[pushbrk 12,910]

I used my mom as a cosponsor, and while I had 3 years of tax returns (which was listed on my interview letter even though the IO didn't look at it), it does say that if you didn't file, you need to cite the tax code concerning why you didn't. So if you weren't working, and you're asked for 2 more years' worth for the interview, find the tax code saying why you didn't have to file.

No one is saying you have to wait 3 years to get married. I made under the amount last tax year and while I could have proven I made more, my job was not stable so I used my mother - they didn't even want all three years for her, the IO just wanted last year's since she made more than enough to sponsor my husband.

If you're getting paid cash, you can still pay your taxes - in the end, they are YOUR taxes. Figure out how to be responsible for it. Go see a tax professional.

But if you have a co-sponsor, I do fail to see what the problem is.

Maybe it will work if there is a tax code - 'didnt file because didnt earn steady income from jobs.'

But is it possible for me to just not even send any tax info, just banking info and file with a cosponsor who provides the tax info. Thats the only way i can see it working.

Also, where on the i134 would i make note of not meeting the income requirement, and do they verify this against banking info?

SO can anyone reply to my last comment...

Steady income has nothing to do with it - you can only not file if you made below the required amount. If you made more than the amount required for you to not file, whether it be from 20 jobs or 1 job, you have to submit a tax return with the immigration forms. If you don't, you'll be RFE'd for them. There is no way around it.

Ok great, this is useful information.

Pretty much now all i need to know is...whats the amount cutoff that requires a tax return to be filed.

Plus, can anyone else comfirm what MEOX MIX has just said to be true, that if i make over the limit and dont file, they will RFE me.

Single taxpayers. If you expect to file a single return, the IRS requires you to file a return for 2006 if your gross income for the year is at least:

$8,450 if you are under age 65. $9,700 if you are at least age 65.

That part of MEOW MIX's post is correct. The rest is not quite.

First, you do not "file" an I-134 for a K1 visa. You send it to your fiance(e) who then hands it over to a Consular officer, when asked. For AOS, you do "file" an I-864 with at least one tax return with the AOS application. If your income was below the minimum filing requirement, in either case, you may substitute a signed statement from you stating you were not required to file a tax return because your income was X and the minimum was Y.

For the I-134, no tax return is actually required but it is adviseable. So, either the return or statement is a good idea.

For the I-874 at AOS, you will get an RFE for the tax return, if you don't provided it or the statement.

Just to make sure you understand, income is the key, not steady work.

Yeah, I realized the second wasn't totally right. Oops. But either way, the I-864 requires the tax return, and as far as I'm concerned, the green card is really the most important thing...getting here is only half the battle. Thanks for catching me

but you make a point about the green card aos. Has anyone done this before, file except from filing taxes from making under the limit, then had a cosponsor and was able to succesfully get a greencard?

I still wish i could know 100% what will happnen if i submit my baking info with nothing else for this k1 visa

The I-864 says multiple times that you MUST submit a tax return with the I-864, unless you can cite the tax code where it says you are exempt from filing (most common being making under the filing requirement). Not doing so would result in an RFE, and I personally have not seen anyone who hasn't submitted taxes not get RFE'd for them. It also says "all" sponsors must submit this, and not just the co-sponsor. The taxes are of the utmost importance with the I-864,even though it isn't with the I-134.

The bottom line is that if you cannot honestly state your reason for not filing was your income was below $8450, you're going to need to file a tax return and supply it with the I-864 when AOS is filed.

I suggest you get cracking on dealing with this. The rules do apply to you.