Denied entry VWP

[athena_ny 1]

Wow. I'm surprised he got in as much as he did! Sucks he flew all the way from NZ tho to get turned away. That is one long a$$ flight!

Good luck on your journey.

Thank you. He actually was trying to come back to me from Dublin when he was turned away and then had to fly on to NZ instead.

They almost beg you to get married 'illegally' and then file the K3, don't they?

It looks as though our only hope is to wait. New Zealand is not only "one long a$$ flight" but it's pretty hard on the pocketbook too!

Getting married while here is not illegal. Coming here to get married and STAY, however, is illegal.

[no name 1]

Wow. I'm surprised he got in as much as he did! Sucks he flew all the way from NZ tho to get turned away. That is one long a$$ flight!

Good luck on your journey.

Thank you. He actually was trying to come back to me from Dublin when he was turned away and then had to fly on to NZ instead.

They almost beg you to get married 'illegally' and then file the K3, don't they?

It looks as though our only hope is to wait. New Zealand is not only "one long a$$ flight" but it's pretty hard on the pocketbook too!

Well, TBH, you admitted you knew he was likely to get turned away at any time.

It's not hard to get married legally. You just need to educate yourself. I thought you were waiting on divorce papers anyhow? So neither the K1 or K3 is an option now anyhow.

Edited September 27, 2007 by devilette

[*julez* 124]

They almost beg you to get married 'illegally' and then file the K3, don't they?

The K3 takes even longer than the K1. Do you mean to get married while in the US on the VWP and try to adjust status from that?

[KimandRuss 0]

Getting married while here is not illegal. Coming here to get married and STAY, however, is illegal.

Yes, I understand that. My point is that in order to actually stay together for this difficult and lengthy process it's much easier to get married while your significant other is in the country with you.

Devilette, I realize neither visa is an option for me right now as I am still awaiting my divorce. This is why we did not get married. Also, of course we knew he could be turned away at any point but the time we got together was worth the risk. My remark was in general. 6-9 months of separation before an intended marriage does not seem a healthy way to begin a lifelong relationship.

Julezabelle, why do we need to meet in a '3rd party country'? I have only travelled to New Zealand once in the past. As far as I know I should have no problems travelling there on the visa waiver.

One more question... is the K3 process any less strenuous? If I can get to NZ after my divorce is finalized and marry him there does it still take as long or am I better off applying for and waiting for the K1?

Thank you all again for your input. I have a feeling we will be here alot in the coming months.

[Madzia+James 0]

We had a very similar situation. I was in US on few working visas and then on a student visa. I have never overstayed or done anything illegal. I am also educated as your fiance is. We decided to go for my brother's wedding to Poland, but I had to apply for another student visa (I was going to school at that time). And I didn't get it for no reason. James was getting divorce and when it was final we applied for K1. It took over 3 months. Our lawyer advised us to wait for K1 and not to try to apply for any other kind of visas. He said we could apply, but I would have to be very careful what I said in the embassy. He said it's always better to say the truth and not get tourist visa and then apply for K1 when it's possible, than lie and rune the chances for K1. We waited and started our K1 process last Monday. It is hard to be apart, but it makes our relationship much stronger. Many of us are doing it now. Be strong. Better days are coming

Hello, this is my first post with you all but i've been coming here for a long time and have a very strong feeling that you all are about to become like family to us.

A bit about us... I am a U.S. citizen. Russ and I met online about 10 years ago, while I was married. His first visit here was in 2003. Two years ago my husband and I split and Russell and I became a couple. I have travelled to and from NZ and he has been here in the U.S. on the VWP on and off while I am awaiting my divorce to be final. On Monday, he was denied entry back into the U.S. while on the VWP and was sent back to NZ.

My divorce should be final within a couple of months and then we can start the K1 process. But the thought of not being together for up to 9 months or more is just disheartning. I will be visiting NZ at Christmas but can only stay a couple of weeks because I have children here that need me. So my question is this, can he apply for a different kind of visa to at least come to visit as we await this whole process? Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated as I am broken hearted without my love at my side.

On a side note... I live in a place where it is almost the norm for people to live here illegally and even work. Yet, here is a man with a masters degree who try's to follow the law and is sent 'home'.

never in my life did I imagine that falling in love with someone from a different country and wanting to be with that person would be so difficult. Even if I was divored and could file for the K1 today the process is daunting and painful. You all are to be commended for your time and committment to your loved ones and you give me hope that with time, everything will be ok. Thank you for that.

[KimandRuss 0]

thank you jules... I guess that answers that!

[nivesito 0]

Well, I must say it was a piece of cake for me to get a B2 tourist visa ( I called the embassy, got the interview few days later and 10 minutes with the CO was enough) because I was studying and I had a reason to come back. I was also traveling with my back then boyfriend and now fiancé. They asked me if we are planning to marry, I said no.

My visa is still valid, but since I'm done with studying and just stuck in doing nothing because it doesn’t make sense to start working because I don't won't to say in 1 month sorry I quit for Immigration officer there I don't have any reason to come back. Sure, I can try but what are the chances...So, VWP country or B2 visa once you get there they decide if they are going to let you in or you're flaying back home. You just need to convince them that you have a good reason to come back especially during the K1 process.

[payxibka 10,045]

One more question... is the K3 process any less strenuous? If I can get to NZ after my divorce is finalized and marry him there does it still take as long or am I better off applying for and waiting for the K1?

Other than processing time differences, I think most would say they both are equally strenuous...

Edited September 27, 2007 by fwaguy

[rebeccajo 14]

DCF?

[TracyTN 237]

Getting married while here is not illegal. Coming here to get married and STAY, however, is illegal.

Yes, I understand that. My point is that in order to actually stay together for this difficult and lengthy process it's much easier to get married while your significant other is in the country with you.

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6-9 months of separation before an intended marriage does not seem a healthy way to begin a lifelong relationship.

Yes it is! But it really just depends on where the couple would prefer to get married. Some would rather do it in the states, some in the foreign fiance/e's country - some prefer a 'destination' wedding in another country altogether. There are no right or wrongs when it comes to that - except as you know, if you marry in the states, you have to be mindful of potential immigration issues (unless the foreign fiance/e intends to return home shortly after the wedding).

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You're right - it doesn't. But MANY of us here have had to do exactly that.

[KimandRuss 0]

Madzia, thank you so much for your reply. I wish you and your fiance all the best and a speedy process!

At this point I would much rather be safe than sorry so perhaps applying for a visitor visa is not in our best interest. As I stated we have known each other now for about 10 years and after living together for about a year and a half now it's going to be very difficult to be apart for up to 9 months, i'm sure. Time to get another job and plan my travel to NZ accordingly I suppose.

Thanks again to you all.

My best.

[no name 1]

Yes, I understand that. My point is that in order to actually stay together for this difficult and lengthy process it's much easier to get married while your significant other is in the country with you.

Which - if there is no intent - is legal. But obvs you now have intent. It is not an option for you anymore.

One more question... is the K3 process any less strenuous? If I can get to NZ after my divorce is finalized and marry him there does it still take as long or am I better off applying for and waiting for the K1?

No. It is a personal choice.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=compare

Check the timelines for an average timeline for NZ/your service center as well.

[payxibka 10,045]

DCF?

I think the residency issue will be problematic due to previously mentioned parental requirements here in the USA

[no name 1]

6-9 months of separation before an intended marriage does not seem a healthy way to begin a lifelong relationship.

No, but we chose to marry a foreigner & bring them to live in the USA, legally. That is a priviledge, not a right & we have to wait it out.

[rebeccajo 14]

DCF?

I think the residency issue will be problematic due to previously mentioned parental requirements here in the USA

Residency issue?