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You call it whatever you want-but Javier's not a criminal. He has no criminal mind or mindset. When I talk to him he always tells me you never think of it as illegal what you're doing when you come over. It's not like, oh I'm going to go out and break the law today.

MissLiss,

That just means that the law has been so debased by our own government and American employers that no one takes it seriously anymore.

It doesn't mean it's not illegal. It also doesn't mean that the people doing it are not breaking the law (and are therefore criminals). It just means our government and the people of our nation encourage the "crime" so why shouldn't the illegal immigrants mind breaking it?

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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You call it whatever you want-but Javier's not a criminal. He has no criminal mind or mindset. When I talk to him he always tells me you never think of it as illegal what you're doing when you come over. It's not like, oh I'm going to go out and break the law today.

Melissa, I've said this before and I believe it...you are too close for comfort to this issue.

That said, no, I don't think Javier is a criminal, but he paid (and continues to pay) for the act he DID commit. The definition of criminal is very clear...it doesn't say anything about mindset.

Main Entry: criminal

Function: noun

1 : one who has committed a crime

2 : a person who has been convicted of a crime

I don't understand your last two sentences...why would YOU be breaking the law?

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Hysterical in every sense of the word.

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Alright then I'm engaged to a criminal. Better not have any kids, because when I think of criminal I certainly don't think of suitable father. And I guess I shouldn't rely on him to support the family when he gets here because after all he's a criminal who can't stop committing criminal acts-he may end up in jail or deadbeat. LUDICROUS.

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Who wants cake and eat it too?

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"what shall we say, shall we call it by a name? As well as count the angels dancin' on a pin?" -Let it Grow by the Grateful Dead

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Alright then I'm engaged to a criminal. Better not have any kids, because when I think of criminal I certainly don't think of suitable father. And I guess I shouldn't rely on him to support the family when he gets here because after all he's a criminal who can't stop committing criminal acts-he may end up in jail or deadbeat. LUDICROUS.

oh for f%cksake! :rolleyes:

Who wants cake and eat it too?

I'd like some cake please...lemon with buttercream icing... :yes:

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Yes, well, I think I've had just about enough of this for one day. So I'm going to take my criminal-loving self right out of this conversation. Have fun going on about how ridiculous it is that I don't like my fiance being called a criminal.

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Who wants cake and eat it too?

Ok why would I want cake if I couldn't eat it?

Cake or death.... Sorry, we're outa cake.

heheheheee... :thumbs::yes:

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Sorry meester, only haf peecture of cake. No such theeng as reel cake.

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"Of COURSE there's no God... there's nothing BUT God!"

"what shall we say, shall we call it by a name? As well as count the angels dancin' on a pin?" -Let it Grow by the Grateful Dead

"Inspiration, move me brightly. Light the song with sense and color--hold away despair... more than this I will not ask, faced with myst'ries dark and vast... statements just seem vain at last... ... ... ... ..."

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Who wants cake and eat it too?

Ok why would I want cake if I couldn't eat it?

Cake or death.... Sorry, we're outa cake.

Hey I signed up for cake! Give me cake or give me dea.... nevermind. Give me cake or I sue.

Oh all right.... here's your cake :P

Who wants cake and eat it too?

Ok why would I want cake if I couldn't eat it?

Cake or death.... Sorry, we're outa cake.

heheheheee... :thumbs::yes:

yep. still good.... want some coffee?? :P

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lawbreakers=evildoers?

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fnord!

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"what shall we say, shall we call it by a name? As well as count the angels dancin' on a pin?" -Let it Grow by the Grateful Dead

"Inspiration, move me brightly. Light the song with sense and color--hold away despair... more than this I will not ask, faced with myst'ries dark and vast... statements just seem vain at last... ... ... ... ..."

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We f*cking RULE!!! All other K1'rs pale in comparison to our mighty relationship. We will usher in a new era of rock-osity to this faded world. Prepare yourselves for the party. Hope you like tofu and karaoke.

-mike and ize

 

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