Secret US air force team to perfect plan for Iran strike

[Mrs.J06 4]

i agree...we got enough problems already and no need to get into another front...

So your OK with Iran having nuclear weapons?

Who decides about which countries have the right to have them? The US?

What about India and Pakistan? A little late to be World Police on Nukes, isn't it?

If you like us, you're welcome to have them, if you don't, we'll bomb you back into stone age?

It's not quite that easy, hate to tell you, and isn't that what people in the US where made to believe before the Iraq mess started? We'll just bomb them and then all our problems will be solved... yeah right!

[Jasman0717 9]

Wonder if it will work better than the last time

[LondonGooner 0]

No-one has mentioned where Russia stands in all of this afterall, they have been upgrading Iran's defence capabilities for years. Iran are not the weak push-overs that the Iraqis were before 2003. Iran would put up a heck of a fight against a foreign aggressor and it is perfectly conceivable that Russia would act to protect its interests in the region.

Some people have said that it is unthinkable to have a radical regime in command of a nuclear arsenal however, that radicalism doesn't begin and end with the government; it also resides with the people. Do you honestly think 70 million Iranians would sit back and watch their country destroyed by a foreign power which is hated and despised more than any other? The instant the first cruise missle strikes Iranian territory millions of young Iranians will flock to the defence of their government and country.

[mawilson 2,133]

No-one has mentioned where Russia stands in all of this afterall, they have been upgrading Iran's defence capabilities for years. Iran are not the weak push-overs that the Iraqis were before 2003. Iran would put up a heck of a fight against a foreign aggressor and it is perfectly conceivable that Russia would act to protect its interests in the region.

Some people have said that it is unthinkable to have a radical regime in command of a nuclear arsenal however, that radicalism doesn't begin and end with the government; it also resides with the people. Do you honestly think 70 million Iranians would sit back and watch their country destroyed by a foreign power which is hated and despised more than any other? The instant the first cruise missle strikes Iranian territory millions of young Iranians will flock to the defence of their government and country.

I doubt it. Young Iranians despise their government as much as they despise the U.S.

As for Russia joining the fight - not bloody likely.

[radsr2002 0]

i wonder, how many of these arm chair generals ..will run and volunteer for the miltary if we get into another war....i doubt any...

I don't think we'll have to find out. Once Israel becomes convinced Iran has a viable nuclear attack capability, they will launch a strike. Maybe this time it will be another country's war and we can all just sit back and watch it unfold on CNN.

Touche

[radsr2002 0]

If you throw out legititmate dialog as a viable strategy - then you don't really have much left IMO. I'd sooner believe that Iran, like the US is home to some liberal minded people who don't believe that murder and depravity is a way forward. Its already been pointed out what happened the last time the US embroiled itself in (franklly unjustified) regime change during the 1950's.

Unfortunately what we have seen in recent years is a movement away from rational dialogue towards rising nationalism and xenophobic attitudes (which incidentally - post-9/11 is exactly what has happened in the US).

Of course if you can't at least see a different point of view - then there is really nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Agree to disagree perhaps - though something tells me that you won't.

legitimate dialog as a viable strategy- we have already offered to help the w/ nuculear energy if they stop their program......"nothing & noone will stop us" was the reply.

& as soon as their liberal minded people take control of the gov't & military their national stance & opinion will matter. as of now the liberal minded minority is powerless & basically voiceless inside a country ruled by islamic law and run by a dumbf**k that keeps giving sound bites like..." the holocost is a myth" & "whipe isreal off the map"

yes we will have to agree to disagree on how to deal w/ terrorist & states that sponsor terrorist.

Errr we are talking about a Goverment that hung a 16 year old girl for holding hands with a man...

ReaD!!!!!

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...-name_page.html :crying:

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

If you throw out legititmate dialog as a viable strategy - then you don't really have much left IMO. I'd sooner believe that Iran, like the US is home to some liberal minded people who don't believe that murder and depravity is a way forward. Its already been pointed out what happened the last time the US embroiled itself in (franklly unjustified) regime change during the 1950's.

Unfortunately what we have seen in recent years is a movement away from rational dialogue towards rising nationalism and xenophobic attitudes (which incidentally - post-9/11 is exactly what has happened in the US).

Of course if you can't at least see a different point of view - then there is really nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Agree to disagree perhaps - though something tells me that you won't.

legitimate dialog as a viable strategy- we have already offered to help the w/ nuculear energy if they stop their program......"nothing & noone will stop us" was the reply.

& as soon as their liberal minded people take control of the gov't & military their national stance & opinion will matter. as of now the liberal minded minority is powerless & basically voiceless inside a country ruled by islamic law and run by a dumbf**k that keeps giving sound bites like..." the holocost is a myth" & "whipe isreal off the map"

yes we will have to agree to disagree on how to deal w/ terrorist & states that sponsor terrorist.

Errr we are talking about a Goverment that hung a 16 year old girl for holding hands with a man...

ReaD!!!!!

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...-name_page.html :crying:

link no workee

[mRx 16]

As it stands now, I don't think Iran poses a real threat to the United States. However, they do pose a threat in Iraq by supplying arms to anti-US militias.

I imagine it is difficult to negotiate diplomatically with them when they deny the allegations, even though it is blatantly obvious and the evidence is undeniable.

[Dan J 277]

As it stands now, I don't think Iran poses a real threat to the United States. However, they do pose a threat in Iraq by supplying arms to anti-US militias.

I imagine it is difficult to negotiate diplomatically with them when they deny the allegations, even though it is blatantly obvious and the evidence is undeniable.

Sounds like they are borrowing a tactic from the US, how often do we admit our interference in the politics of other nations?

[mRx 16]

As it stands now, I don't think Iran poses a real threat to the United States. However, they do pose a threat in Iraq by supplying arms to anti-US militias.

I imagine it is difficult to negotiate diplomatically with them when they deny the allegations, even though it is blatantly obvious and the evidence is undeniable.

Sounds like they are borrowing a tactic from the US, how often do we admit our interference in the politics of other nations?

How often are our intentions solely to disintegrate the development of peace?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As it stands now, I don't think Iran poses a real threat to the United States. However, they do pose a threat in Iraq by supplying arms to anti-US militias.

I imagine it is difficult to negotiate diplomatically with them when they deny the allegations, even though it is blatantly obvious and the evidence is undeniable.

Sounds like they are borrowing a tactic from the US, how often do we admit our interference in the politics of other nations?

How often are our intentions solely to disintegrate the development of peace?

Unfortunately - more often than you'd think. The whole Iran mess is the result of it - 1953 coup set democracy in Iran back decades.

[pedroh 21]

As it stands now, I don't think Iran poses a real threat to the United States. However, they do pose a threat in Iraq by supplying arms to anti-US militias.

I imagine it is difficult to negotiate diplomatically with them when they deny the allegations, even though it is blatantly obvious and the evidence is undeniable.

Sounds like they are borrowing a tactic from the US, how often do we admit our interference in the politics of other nations?

How often are our intentions solely to disintegrate the development of peace?

Unfortunately - more often than you'd think. The whole Iran mess is the result of it - 1953 coup set democracy in Iran back decades.

yeap, it happened in central and southamerica for a while, now the middle east is the next target..

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

As it stands now, I don't think Iran poses a real threat to the United States. However, they do pose a threat in Iraq by supplying arms to anti-US militias.

I imagine it is difficult to negotiate diplomatically with them when they deny the allegations, even though it is blatantly obvious and the evidence is undeniable.

really? no threat to the us? how about when they were launching missiles at oil tankers in the straits? that most certainly affected our economy and everyone's wallet that had a car.

[Caladan 19]

No-one has mentioned where Russia stands in all of this afterall, they have been upgrading Iran's defence capabilities for years. Iran are not the weak push-overs that the Iraqis were before 2003. Iran would put up a heck of a fight against a foreign aggressor and it is perfectly conceivable that Russia would act to protect its interests in the region.

Some people have said that it is unthinkable to have a radical regime in command of a nuclear arsenal however, that radicalism doesn't begin and end with the government; it also resides with the people. Do you honestly think 70 million Iranians would sit back and watch their country destroyed by a foreign power which is hated and despised more than any other? The instant the first cruise missle strikes Iranian territory millions of young Iranians will flock to the defence of their government and country.

I doubt it. Young Iranians despise their government as much as they despise the U.S.

As for Russia joining the fight - not bloody likely.

Young Iranians may despise their government, but if you have to bet, you bet on people rallying around the leadership when attacked by an outside regime, or at least, people rallying around someone who isn't the invaders.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No-one has mentioned where Russia stands in all of this afterall, they have been upgrading Iran's defence capabilities for years. Iran are not the weak push-overs that the Iraqis were before 2003. Iran would put up a heck of a fight against a foreign aggressor and it is perfectly conceivable that Russia would act to protect its interests in the region.

Some people have said that it is unthinkable to have a radical regime in command of a nuclear arsenal however, that radicalism doesn't begin and end with the government; it also resides with the people. Do you honestly think 70 million Iranians would sit back and watch their country destroyed by a foreign power which is hated and despised more than any other? The instant the first cruise missle strikes Iranian territory millions of young Iranians will flock to the defence of their government and country.

I doubt it. Young Iranians despise their government as much as they despise the U.S.

As for Russia joining the fight - not bloody likely.

Young Iranians may despise their government, but if you have to bet, you bet on people rallying around the leadership when attacked by an outside regime, or at least, people rallying around someone who isn't the invaders.

Agreed - That tends to be what happens. I mean - look at what happened after Pearl Harbour and 9/11.