This is what's going on.

[Cassie 8]

:thumbs: rebeccajo!

[JanaknJanet 0]

HEY~YA Becca... Once again... well said..

[StillThePrettiest 3]

I'd love to see a truce. Tell me how we get there.

perhaps we could start by ALL speaking to others in a manner in which we'd like to be spoken to... impossible on an internet forum? perhaps difficult, but I belong to another forum where even mild flaming simply doesn't occur; we have all manner of complex discussions, and people feel strongly about things, but don't get nasty, or rude, or whatever

oh, and a ban on mentioning our waiting times might be a good idea as well

[mox 298]

perhaps we could start by ALL speaking to others in a manner in which we'd like to be spoken to

What are you, some kind of trouble maker?

oh, and a ban on mentioning our waiting times might be a good idea as well

But...but...but... Oh alright.

[Sinergy 3]

It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.

its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.

It's kind of been ####### for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

i certainly dont speak for EVERYONE else, just myself.

[virgillionaire 0]

It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.

its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.

It's kind of been ####### for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

i certainly dont speak for EVERYONE else, just myself.

I was referring to the general vet viewpoint, which like the newb viewpoint, has kind of been put out there ad nauseum.

Anyway, it seems one of your own family is in the newb camp HaHa, Your son is only 2

[Sinergy 3]

It also must be nice to have your significant other from one of the 27 countries on the VISA Waiver Program so your loved one can come here and visit for 90 days without a VISA. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Oh wait, I am sure the compasionate ones who are here to "help" us will say something like, "nobody told you to fall in love with someone from a country that is not on the list..."or something else real intelligent, helpful, and caring.

So here you go to all of you "I just try to help people...but they don't want to listen to me (us)" people. Fresh blood here...time for you to feast and tell each other how right you are and how the newer members are just whiners...or call in the reinforcements and close the thread, delete the post, etc. Sure wish those reinforcements would cancel accounts for those of you who have nothing better to do than come on this board and in more than half of your posts in a week just throw sarcasm and attempted superiority at those you disagree with. I can't wait to read the words of wisdom those of you write after this post because it is burning so bad in you that you just have to reply to feel better about yourself and show everyone how smart you are.

Yea must be nice that ppl have an SO from one of those countries, unfortunately the majority of us who have been HELPING, even tho you chose not to accept the help don't have an SO from one of those countries, and the ones who do, they don't have the SO here with them bc immigration is so expensive they'd rather use the money on the plane ticket to bring their SO here when the visa is handed to them

and to the second bolded area, dude you seriously need to get a grip. if you don't want our help or advice, there are other message boards. attacking us in that manner is just childish, and we come back here bc we do help other ppl going thru the process, and believe it or not, we are very appreciated for the help and advice we do give on a daily basis. just bc some of us are done for a few years, doesn't mean we cant come back just bc you don't like that we are done with the process, or close to being done.

its called a public IMMIGRATION forum for a reason.

And i didn't respond to show how "smart i am" i certainly don't have to respond to a childish post for you to get that sence of pleasure. i responded bc you seem to have it out for everyone who has either finished the process and gives advice and help or for those almost finished and who don't find your additude very positive towards anyone who didnt just start the process.

Let me say I'm in the noob camp:) although I did go through this before, unfortunately. Maybe I should have listened to RJ's advice.

But all this whining, if you will, about being attacked for not having it as hard as us is misplaced. That was raised because US Wendy's original thread about writing congress was virtually shouted down claiming it was whining.

One sage vet even said ' I love the sound of newbies whining in the morning.' So please don't come off like martyrs just trying to help someone.

It's kind of been ####### for tat since then. And I could really give a flying wallenda about someone's negative response to me. I don't know anyone here well enough to give it that kind of weight.

That said, I do appreciate the availability of people who have been through this and have knowledge to share. And this website is probably saving me a couple grand in legal fees, so I have to thank the organizers for that.

So maybe we should call a truce?, even though I admit it has been good theater

i certainly dont speak for EVERYONE else, just myself.

I was referring to the general vet viewpoint, which like the newb viewpoint, has kind of been put out there ad nauseum.

Anyway, it seems one of your own family is in the newb camp HaHa, Your son is only 2

hes 2 making him a vet