This is what's going on.

[Cassie 8]

Im curious to know , about a year ago, were there VJ members upset about the processing times??? Just curious to know if there has been that much of a drastic change?

there's always been someone upset with processing times -- some with good reason, and some not. We've had the TSC slowdown, "why is Vermont so much faster", IMBRA, and now the whole increase of fees/influx of "file before July 31" petitions......and those who would complain for no good reason......and that's been the past 3 years I have been on VJ in a nutshell. But the crazy thing is, like rebeccajo has stated time and time again, the process has gotten better over time....crazy, ain't it??

Edited September 26, 2007 by Cassie

[athena_ny 1]

I'd question the US government if the US government just let anyone and everyone in who said they were a fiance of a USC.

oh yeah, as i posted before...remind me again how many of the 911 hijackers and terrorists were here on a K1 or K3 visa

maybe they should spend all this time on student visas.

Chris

I didn't say anything about terrorism. How about all the VISA and MARRIAGE fraud that is rampant but we choose not to talk about?

I haven't been around for long, but long enough to already be heartily sick of the #######-for-tat of 'who waited longer' and 'who feels the separation the most'; I'm sure those who have seen it go round ten thousand times are ten thousand times more sick of it than I am

however, what I DON'T understand is why so many threads end up rehashing the same old argument?! I've attempted to steer clear of those sorts of points, and there's a post of mine back on the previous page that hasn't had a single response... ok, maybe no one had anything to say to my points, but in that case why would you rather say the same things you've said so many times before? I don't get it

Because I'm bored at work and this is my soapbox.

[Kass 0]

I could understand the asylee point completely, but like i said, the system needs revamping....why not separate it into visa type divisions!! Let be a steady pace for everybody !! Especially now that they raised the prices, and mind you , not by a little...there should be no excuse for the stop, because thats what it has become, not just a slow down but a stop

We could say this about every Government Office regardless of Country. There is the right way, the wrong way and the GOVERNMENT WAY! For some reason Government Offices work backwards, move as fast as cold mollasses and have workers with personalities that are completely and utterly non existent. We could get more empathy, sympathy and understanding out of R2 D2 and C3PO.... robots with no heart.

Would it be IDEAL for the process to be done in a logical sense, yes AMEN to that, but the odds are simply...just that .......odds.

Let's take for example NVC. This is where name checks are done. Well it is a proven fact that NVC processed over 7 million FALSE hits last year. This means 7 million applicants were falsely hit. This puts the applicant in the administration process from weeks to years. Now why use this process if the software being used is not accurate?

It is a Government Office the Right Way, the Wrong Way and the Government Way!

As for the high fee's, yes they are not acceptable. But how many can "hear, hear" to the fact that when you owe the Goverment BAM it's gone right out of your account, but when they owe you it is tied up in red tape for great lenghts of time. There is not rhyme and there is no reason.

If anything, we can blame ourselves for this as we are responsible to some extent as we put the politicians in place that vote on these things. Politicians that do not make the failings USCIS a priority, if it is not foot rubbing in a public bathroom it does not get noticed. However, the illegal immigrants get notice. They get notice because they took a stand (wrong or not).

We all complain on here, including me, yet when is the last time you asked your congressman for change? Change can happen. It may not help you at that moment, but it may help those that have to go through this process in the future.

But, right now at the end of the day WE are all in this process together. WE ALL WANT TO BE WITH OUR LOVED ONES. We have ALL been separated. I have been sept. from mine for over three years. But, if this is all we have then this is all we have. If this is the process that we have to go through to be together, then we have to do what we have to do.

We just chug along, become informed (VJ is a great source of ref)., and we go through the process...wrong or right. At the end of the day we will be together with those that we love and that is the material point!

[no name 1]

We all complain on here, including me, yet when is the last time you asked your congressman for change? Change can happen. It may not help you at that moment, but it may help those that have to go through this process in the future.

But, right now at the end of the day WE are all in this process together. WE ALL WANT TO BE WITH OUR LOVED ONES. We have ALL been separated. I have been sept. from mine for over three years. But, if this is all we have then this is all we have. If this is the process that we have to go through to be together, then we have to do what we have to do.

We just chug along, become informed (VJ is a great source of ref)., and we go through the process...wrong or right. At the end of the day we will be together with those that we love and that is the material point!

[athena_ny 1]

We all complain on here, including me, yet when is the last time you asked your congressman for change? Change can happen. It may not help you at that moment, but it may help those that have to go through this process in the future.

But, right now at the end of the day WE are all in this process together. WE ALL WANT TO BE WITH OUR LOVED ONES. We have ALL been separated. I have been sept. from mine for over three years. But, if this is all we have then this is all we have. If this is the process that we have to go through to be together, then we have to do what we have to do.

We just chug along, become informed (VJ is a great source of ref)., and we go through the process...wrong or right. At the end of the day we will be together with those that we love and that is the material point!

Seconded!

[Cassie 8]

I'd question the US government if the US government just let anyone and everyone in who said they were a fiance of a USC.

oh yeah, as i posted before...remind me again how many of the 911 hijackers and terrorists were here on a K1 or K3 visa

maybe they should spend all this time on student visas.

Chris

I didn't say anything about terrorism. How about all the VISA and MARRIAGE fraud that is rampant but we choose not to talk about?

So true -- I bring it up in various threads and not much of a peep in response.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1192842

[athena_ny 1]

I'd question the US government if the US government just let anyone and everyone in who said they were a fiance of a USC.

oh yeah, as i posted before...remind me again how many of the 911 hijackers and terrorists were here on a K1 or K3 visa

maybe they should spend all this time on student visas.

Chris

I didn't say anything about terrorism. How about all the VISA and MARRIAGE fraud that is rampant but we choose not to talk about?

So true -- I bring it up in various threads and not much of a peep in response.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1192842

That thread was such a mess, I missed your response the first time around.

There are people who will stop at NOTHING to get here. Do I think the 2 year name checks are ridiculous? Yes. Do I think that adjusting from tourist visas/VWP probably is a loophole that should be closed? If I hadn't married a tourist visa overstay, I would. But people who got defrauded in the past took it all the way up the chain of command and now it's a lot more difficult for the whole lot of us. In the end, I still think it's worth to so I can wake up and see my husband's eyes in the morning.

Edited September 26, 2007 by meow mix

[Sen and Neil 0]

If people really want to see an improvement in their cases, all they need do is contact their congressman for the state in which they live and they will take action...more action than you think! Here is the address to determine who your congressman is depending on what state you are from.

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

It will also tell you how to contact them by phone, email, and snail mail! So instead of just complaining here on Visa Journey, take action that will not only help your case, but the many thousands of others who are going through the same painful process!

The more complaints and requests they get the more that can be done, and the more that will get done!

Thanks,

Neil

I have a friend that works for the Department of Home Land Security. I have been trying and trying to make contact with him for the last three months. I finally got through. This is what was said to me about what is going on. This is a fact i would not say anything else in less i knew for sure. This news is some what relief but frustrating. I'm writing a letter now to my congress to put the pressure on the USCIS. The problem is I need more people to step up too?

USCIS was holding a gun at the head of Congress to get the fee hikes approved. Either pass the fee hikes or we'll sit on our duffs! So Congress approved the fee hike (under serious protest). The first attempt by USCIS failed.

In preparation for this, USCIS published document called "Transformation." This was a clever ploy to be able to pass out excuses for delays. And implementing, whatever they are doing, had caused the delays, not to mention, building their bureaucracy and power!

There are 5 regional service centers (or were). In the last six or so months, they've passed on the K and Relative visa case load from 4 of the service centers to California. Imagine the added work load and training that had to be done by the California Center. They've been running 6 months or so in just approving the petitions.

In shuffling the cases from Texas, Nebraska, then Missouri and eventually Vermont, to California, has caused longer and longer delays and even in simply getting to a case to cash the checks and send out receipts!!

Just recently, they assigned Vermont to take some of the backlog off California's back. More transition delays in cashing checks and sending out receipts! I have yet to see any improvement in processing time.

If you'll look at the USCIS reports, you'll notice they are ignoring the I-129F stats on the K3 visa. You'll also notice the I-130 reports indicate nothing since they include 2nd., and 3rd., preference cases filed by Permanent Residents (not U.S. Citizens). In other words, they are hiding their information!

These shuffled and reshuffled cases are eventually making it to an adjudicator's desk as we see. But it's scary meanwhile since no one is talking. But keep in mind, they are in fact, under the gun, and eventually they have to get to each case. They are in effect, shooting themselves in the foot while justifying a greater empire. The public is slooowly waking up and screaming! That's one thing the killed the Amnesty Bill.

[Krikit 1,164]

there's always been someone upset with processing times -- some with good reason, and some not. We've had the TSC slowdown, "why is Vermont so much faster", IMBRA, and now the whole increase of fees/influx of "file before July 31" petitions......and those who would complain for no good reason......and that's been the past 3 years I have been on VJ in a nutshell. But the crazy thing is, like rebeccajo has stated time and time again, the process has gotten better over time....crazy, ain't it??

So true. I'm wondering what next year's slowdown will be.

WRT waiting for processing while you're without your partner vs waiting for processing while you're with your partner.... there's always a trade-off. Once those who are waiting for their visas get here, there is a whole new waiting process to go through; with a whole new set of problems. Currently, your frustration is having to endure the LDR - and all that entails - as you wait. When you're here, you'll have to endure the frustration of namecheck and not working and having to go through the painful process of establishing a new identity and being away from your loved ones and not being allowed to travel home to see them and so on and so on and so on. The common factor is the waiting. Whether you wait on *this* end or whether you wait on *that* end makes no difference. It doesn't get "better" once you're with your loved one. It just gets different. We're all in this together.

[U.S. Wendy 0]

I haven't been around for long, but long enough to already be heartily sick of the #######-for-tat of 'who waited longer' and 'who feels the separation the most'; I'm sure those who have seen it go round ten thousand times are ten thousand times more sick of it than I am

however, what I DON'T understand is why so many threads end up rehashing the same old argument?! I've attempted to steer clear of those sorts of points, and there's a post of mine back on the previous page that hasn't had a single response... ok, maybe no one had anything to say to my points, but in that case why would you rather say the same things you've said so many times before? I don't get it

If you look at the threads you will see who the 'ring-leaders' are who start making attacks on this site. It's the same few people and they usually 'hang' together AND I bet are having quite a chuckle at getting everyone all 'riled-up'. I know who they are and I don't respond to them anymore. They can't goad me into some ridiculous battle.....whereby they 'think' they are displaying some superior intelligence or talking about something that is deeply relevant and introspective. Please!!! I believe what I believe and if you don't, OH WELL. I am not losing ANY sleep over it.

Rather than attack you, I just bring things to your attention. It doesn't help me feel better to tear you down.....but, some people really do get off on it.

Amen to that!!!!

If people really want to see an improvement in their cases, all they need do is contact their congressman for the state in which they live and they will take action...more action than you think! Here is the address to determine who your congressman is depending on what state you are from.

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

It will also tell you how to contact them by phone, email, and snail mail! So instead of just complaining here on Visa Journey, take action that will not only help your case, but the many thousands of others who are going through the same painful process!

The more complaints and requests they get the more that can be done, and the more that will get done!

Thanks,

Neil

I have a friend that works for the Department of Home Land Security. I have been trying and trying to make contact with him for the last three months. I finally got through. This is what was said to me about what is going on. This is a fact i would not say anything else in less i knew for sure. This news is some what relief but frustrating. I'm writing a letter now to my congress to put the pressure on the USCIS. The problem is I need more people to step up too?

USCIS was holding a gun at the head of Congress to get the fee hikes approved. Either pass the fee hikes or we'll sit on our duffs! So Congress approved the fee hike (under serious protest). The first attempt by USCIS failed.

In preparation for this, USCIS published document called "Transformation." This was a clever ploy to be able to pass out excuses for delays. And implementing, whatever they are doing, had caused the delays, not to mention, building their bureaucracy and power!

There are 5 regional service centers (or were). In the last six or so months, they've passed on the K and Relative visa case load from 4 of the service centers to California. Imagine the added work load and training that had to be done by the California Center. They've been running 6 months or so in just approving the petitions.

In shuffling the cases from Texas, Nebraska, then Missouri and eventually Vermont, to California, has caused longer and longer delays and even in simply getting to a case to cash the checks and send out receipts!!

Just recently, they assigned Vermont to take some of the backlog off California's back. More transition delays in cashing checks and sending out receipts! I have yet to see any improvement in processing time.

If you'll look at the USCIS reports, you'll notice they are ignoring the I-129F stats on the K3 visa. You'll also notice the I-130 reports indicate nothing since they include 2nd., and 3rd., preference cases filed by Permanent Residents (not U.S. Citizens). In other words, they are hiding their information!

These shuffled and reshuffled cases are eventually making it to an adjudicator's desk as we see. But it's scary meanwhile since no one is talking. But keep in mind, they are in fact, under the gun, and eventually they have to get to each case. They are in effect, shooting themselves in the foot while justifying a greater empire. The public is slooowly waking up and screaming! That's one thing the killed the Amnesty Bill.

[mox 298]

This notion that somebody's opinion doesn't count because they didn't go through exactly what someone else is going through is silly. VJ'ers who have been through the entire process are a fountain of information, and while their experiences may differ from our own, they've been through the same anxiety we're all going through, even if they didn't have that same anxiety for as many days as some other people have.

Also, when you attack another VJ'er, the terrorists win. :)

[Cassie 8]

Also, when you attack another VJ'er, the terrorists win. :)

hahahaha!!! :thumbs:

[StillThePrettiest 3]

no, you're right; discounting someone else's opinion or advice because their experience doesn't exactly match your own is silly, and becoming histrionic and acting as if you're the only one having a hard time is also unnecessary and doesn't get anyone anywhere

but trying to 'put people in their place' or educate them as if they're children is also unhelpful... when you've come out the other side of the whole thing, obviously you have a lot to share with others - but if this isn't done in a way that will make them receptive to that experience or advice, then I think it's counter-productive

so much comes down to the ways in which things are done... two people can tell me the exact same thing, but if one seems to be going out of their way to make me feel stupid, and the other seems to be going out of their way to be reassuring, I know which one I'll listen to

(the above are general comments and genuinely not aimed at anyone in particular; just things I've felt on a number of occasions when reading threads here)

[afterforever 0]

no, you're right; discounting someone else's opinion or advice because their experience doesn't exactly match your own is silly, and becoming histrionic and acting as if you're the only one having a hard time is also unnecessary and doesn't get anyone anywhere

but trying to 'put people in their place' or educate them as if they're children is also unhelpful... when you've come out the other side of the whole thing, obviously you have a lot to share with others - but if this isn't done in a way that will make them receptive to that experience or advice, then I think it's counter-productive

so much comes down to the ways in which things are done... two people can tell me the exact same thing, but if one seems to be going out of their way to make me feel stupid, and the other seems to be going out of their way to be reassuring, I know which one I'll listen to

(the above are general comments and genuinely not aimed at anyone in particular; just things I've felt on a number of occasions when reading threads here)

I agree with you 100%. I think some people only come on here to mess with peoples minds. They know those who are waiting for an approval are very stressed and vulnerable. They claim they are offering their expertise, help and empathy but in reality they just seem to want to cause conflict. Personally, I am getting very tired of people who were approved very quickly telling us who have not, that we are "whiners", or that "waiting never killed anyone". Somehow I do not see the empathy or sensitivity in a statement like that.

Those who went through the whole visa process in 150 days should understand that many people on here have waited 150 days and still do not have an NOA2. I am sure you guys who got approved quickly were still stressed during your waiting. Think about the people still waiting for approvals.

I am not saying that anyone has suffered any more or any less than anyone else but I do not think people should judge someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes.

Can't we all just get along

Edited September 26, 2007 by afterforever

[*julez* 124]

no, you're right; discounting someone else's opinion or advice because their experience doesn't exactly match your own is silly, and becoming histrionic and acting as if you're the only one having a hard time is also unnecessary and doesn't get anyone anywhere

but trying to 'put people in their place' or educate them as if they're children is also unhelpful... when you've come out the other side of the whole thing, obviously you have a lot to share with others - but if this isn't done in a way that will make them receptive to that experience or advice, then I think it's counter-productive

so much comes down to the ways in which things are done... two people can tell me the exact same thing, but if one seems to be going out of their way to make me feel stupid, and the other seems to be going out of their way to be reassuring, I know which one I'll listen to

(the above are general comments and genuinely not aimed at anyone in particular; just things I've felt on a number of occasions when reading threads here)

Well stated! I think you have very nicely illustrated both sides of the coin. Thanks!