6-year old Australian boy ran "sex club" involving Grade 1 students

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

STDs are a serious problem - no disagreement there, but the last paragraph of the article speaks volumes about the author's intent.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, it is God's design. God has said that our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence of disobedience. We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

In other words - "if you have sex outside of marriage, you deserve what you get".

Still - not sure what this really has to do with the OP article.

[Peikko 1,575]

From that same article

Our teenagers must be given the correct information to help them realize that saving themselves sexually until marriage is the only way to stay healthy....It is normal and healthy not to have sex until marriage. Sexually transmitted diseases are so common that it is not an exaggeration to say that most people who regularly have sex outside of marriage will contract a sexually transmitted disease. Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, it is God's design. God has said that our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence of disobedience. We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I certainly don't agree with these conclusions, but then that isn't really very suprising.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The information I am about to share is from data gathered by the Medical Institute for Sexual Health out of Austin, Texas.(1) All of these statistics are readily available from reputable medical and scientific journals.

He uses factual medical data.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence . We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I have edited out the words god. The message is what should be taught to the kids.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The information I am about to share is from data gathered by the Medical Institute for Sexual Health out of Austin, Texas.(1) All of these statistics are readily available from reputable medical and scientific journals.

He uses factual medical data.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence . We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I have edited out the words god. The message is what should be taught to the kids.

He may be using factual medical data, but he's certainly not using it to put forth a factual opinion.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The information I am about to share is from data gathered by the Medical Institute for Sexual Health out of Austin, Texas.(1) All of these statistics are readily available from reputable medical and scientific journals.

He uses factual medical data.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence . We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I have edited out the words god. The message is what should be taught to the kids.

He may be using factual medical data, but he's certainly not using it to put forth a factual opinion.

I didnt know an opinion could ever be a fact? 2+2=4 there is no opinion and never could be. Getting back to the subject everyone has an opinion of what to do about the fact that the rates in which std are spreading, something needs to be done. I certainly dont have the answer.

Edited September 20, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The information I am about to share is from data gathered by the Medical Institute for Sexual Health out of Austin, Texas.(1) All of these statistics are readily available from reputable medical and scientific journals.

He uses factual medical data.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence . We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I have edited out the words god. The message is what should be taught to the kids.

He may be using factual medical data, but he's certainly not using it to put forth a factual opinion.

I didnt know an opinion could ever be a fact? 2+2=4 there is no opinion and never could be. Getting back to the subject everyone has an opinion of what to do about the fact that the rates in which std are spreading something needs to be done. I certainly dont have the answer.

Given the lack of specific info as to what went on in this "sex club", what exactly is served by pointing out the dangers of STDs to 6-year olds?

[Heracles 417]

Please feel free to report any and all my posts to whomsoever you like. If there is something to answer to, I will answer to it, if not, please refrain from making these back handed insults.

oh what a bad ### you are LMAO

[Jasman0717 9]

I'm a Johnny-come-lately been missing a lot

[Heracles 417]

The information I am about to share is from data gathered by the Medical Institute for Sexual Health out of Austin, Texas.(1) All of these statistics are readily available from reputable medical and scientific journals.

He uses factual medical data.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence . We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I have edited out the words god. The message is what should be taught to the kids.

He may be using factual medical data, but he's certainly not using it to put forth a factual opinion.

I didnt know an opinion could ever be a fact? 2+2=4 there is no opinion and never could be. Getting back to the subject everyone has an opinion of what to do about the fact that the rates in which std are spreading something needs to be done. I certainly dont have the answer.

Given the lack of specific info as to what went on in this "sex club", what exactly is served by pointing out the dangers of STDs to 6-year olds?

So if there are no specific details why are you acting as if you know that nothing went on between these kids..

[Peikko 1,575]

Link

I think this is ok as an assessment of the risks of std's and the values of sexual relationships.

As the Sexual Health and Relationship Educator at Vaden Health Center, I am passionate about helping Stanford students to develop healthy attitudes about their sexuality. I have spent the last 12 years creating nuanced messages regarding the complex topic of human sexual behavior and health. Those messages were not accurately conveyed in The Daily article, "Stanford is not STD-free zone" (April 27). In some cases my messages were embarrassingly misconstrued. Instead of addressing each specific quote and inaccuracy, I will simply send the messages as I had intended in the interview:

- This article focused on the biological risks of sexual behavior. We at Health Promotion Services (HPS) firmly believe that sexual health also includes emotional, physical and social health.

- Condoms (male and female) are the only forms of contraception that also help protect people from most sexually transmitted diseases (they only protect those parts of the body that they cover).

- The three "Safe Sex Strategies" that drastically reduce the chances of a person getting infected with STD's are: 1) choosing not to have sex, 2) using condoms correctly and consistently and 3) being in a sexually monogamous relationship in which both partners have been tested for STDs (monogamy without testing or testing without monogamy does not provide protection from STDs).

- For most people, getting tested regularly is not necessary. A person needs to be tested for STDs if they have had unprotected (includes condom breakage or other failure) ####### or vaginal intercourse. [unprotected oral sex is considered low risk for HIV but can readily transmit herpes and some bacterial infections.] For general health, females should receive yearly pelvic exams which may include STD testing. Many couples choose to get tested as they are entering into a "serious" relationship. We believe that this is a good practice and provides benefits to the couple beyond the biological ones.

- In a sexual interaction, there is a difference between biological safety and emotional safety. At HPS we promote and value both, but we find that people get the two confused. For example, if I know and like/love someone, I may feel very comfortable having sex with them but that does not guarantee that I will be safe from STDs if we have unprotected sex. Likewise, I may be having a "random hook-up" with someone, but if we use protection properly and there is no failure of the device, then I am as biologically safe as I would be having protected sex with someone with whom I am more comfortable. The way that we most commonly see the consequences of this confusion is that a couple will use condoms when the relationship is new, but a few months later when they feel more comfortable with each other, they stop using condoms without first getting tested for STDs. We acknowledge that comfort with your partner does influence (but not guarantee) one's ability to talk about and initiate safe sex practices.

Donnovan Somera Yisrael is Community Health Specialist at Vaden Health Center. You can reach him at donnovan@stanford.edu.

[Heracles 417]

I didnt know an opinion could ever be a fact? 2+2=4 there is no opinion and never could be. Getting back to the subject everyone has an opinion of what to do about the fact that the rates in which std are spreading, something needs to be done. I certainly dont have the answer.

Apparently opinions are stupid. Funnily enough the same people who always say prove it never do so for their own opinions.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The information I am about to share is from data gathered by the Medical Institute for Sexual Health out of Austin, Texas.(1) All of these statistics are readily available from reputable medical and scientific journals.

He uses factual medical data.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence . We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

I have edited out the words god. The message is what should be taught to the kids.

He may be using factual medical data, but he's certainly not using it to put forth a factual opinion.

I didnt know an opinion could ever be a fact? 2+2=4 there is no opinion and never could be. Getting back to the subject everyone has an opinion of what to do about the fact that the rates in which std are spreading something needs to be done. I certainly dont have the answer.

Given the lack of specific info as to what went on in this "sex club", what exactly is served by pointing out the dangers of STDs to 6-year olds?

So if there are no specific details why are you acting as if you know that nothing went on between these kids..

I'm not - all I'm saying is "I don't know". That's the difference. You said on the basis of the phrase "sex act" that it justifies an investigation of a kids family life.

[Jasman0717 9]

Is there a full moon

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

STDs are a serious problem - no disagreement there, but the last paragraph of the article speaks volumes about the author's intent.

Not only is saving sex for marriage the only real hope for sexual health, it is God's design. God has said that our sexuality is to blossom within the confines of a mutually faithful monogamous relationship. What we are seeing today is the natural consequence of disobedience. We need to reeducate our kids not just in what is best, but in what is right.

In other words - "if you have sex outside of marriage, you deserve what you get".

Still - not sure what this really has to do with the OP article.

You and B.Y. were debating the facts of a sexual revolution in the late 50 early 60 time period. There was one beleive me.

[Heracles 417]

I'm not - all I'm saying is "I don't know". That's the difference. You said on the basis of the phrase "sex act" that it justifies an investigation of a kids family life.

So what would be the big deal of an investigation by child services. If all checks out okay, they can move on.

Edited September 20, 2007 by Boo-Yah!