Are you fed up with USCIS yet?

[*julez* 124]

I don't think ANYONE's sure it's effective; I think people just want to take some action, beyond having a whinge on an internet forum... I work in international campaigning at the moment, and I've lost count of the times people have told me something we're doing is just not going to be effective... sometimes they're right; sometimes they're spectacularly wrong, and in any case, I'd rather be part of the solution than part of the problem in that regard

and perhaps I'm glad I wasn't here then... I always find it interesting how these sorts of things get put down to people's 'personalities'; strange how these personalities never seem to include natural politeness, or even some self-restraint...

I agree with this post. Yes we all know it takes a long time for the K1 process, yes we all know it stinks, yes we all know that others have gone before us - some with quick processing, some with painfully slow processing. But isn't that the point? There is no consistency with USCIS.

And I never saw it asserted in this thread that the so-called noobs don't trust or respect your information - what I have seen asserted is that there is a group of people who collectively wish to do something about the status quo. Thats not an old vs. new member battle. If you don't think it will work, you're entitled to your opinion. There are those who would like to at least TRY. What's so wrong with that?

All I ever see around here lately is putdowns to noobs. Sure there are dumb questions. I've poked a bit of fun here regarding that myself. But to try to quash those that want to try to make a positive difference in the immigration process seems mean-spirited to me. Maybe the letter campaign will work, maybe it won't. but it certainly won't harm anything in trying. The longest journeys all begin with the first step.

Sure we can read, research and learn till the cows come home. Lord knows I have waiting to begin my K1 journey. I understand the larger issues, but I still think that USCIS can and should do better.

[athena_ny 1]

And so the newbie entitlement issue continues.

Only now the value of a VJer's response is solely based on how quickly they got your NOA2. :lol:

I didn't do K1, I guess that makes my opinion worthless!

It's everyday lately "REVOLT, REBEL, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAAAAKE IT!"

Letters can easily be thrown away, I believe there are much more effective ways of protest.

[ramos96 1]

Fine, if we are all going to be demanding things.

I demand more little blue blocks under my name.

Will I get them, no. Me earning my little blue blocks is the same thing like writing letters, its a nice thing to try and do, but at the end of the day I dont think I will get free blocks.

Ramos

[Sinergy 3]

And so the newbie entitlement issue continues.

Only now the value of a VJer's response is solely based on how quickly they got your NOA2. :lol:

oh yes woman, it no longer depends on if youve gone thru the process or not, it depends on who you are now.

becca, ignore the comments we all know you are valuable

[StillThePrettiest 3]

See? This is what I mean.

Go on. Have a go at me. At least I didn't do that to you.

And that's MY personality talking.

!!!!!!!!

you mentioned a guy called Tom something, who you said was far worse; THAT'S who I was talking about; I said I was glad I wasn't here then, when personalities were given free rein or whatever it was you said

do NOT accuse me of rudeness, because I have gone out of my way not to be

trying reading ME for meaning, if you don't mind

[ramos96 1]

I'd like to know where is TimsDaisy? 7 pages and no comment from her.

We might as well make this a party and get everyone's opinion.

<3

Ramos

[Sinergy 3]

oh my goodness where is LAL and mags

[deadbird 2]

I still say mass suicide might be more effective.

Now that's sarcasm for you. Or cynicism. Or realism.

[athena_ny 1]

I'd like to know where is TimsDaisy? 7 pages and no comment from her.

We might as well make this a party and get everyone's opinion.

<3

Ramos

I haven't seen her in a LOOONG time.

[no name 1]

This is not a re-invention of the wheel....

Last year with the IMBRA RFE, many of us had no answers for weeks/months. We talked about protesting, we wrote letters, we contacted our congresspeople.

One VJer had a quite a big story (about the wait times for immigration) write up by AP that got picked up for national use. Didn't make a difference either way though.

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Edited September 19, 2007 by devilette

[ramos96 1]

Thread Killer!

devilette: flawless victory!!

[rebeccajo 14]

See? This is what I mean.

Go on. Have a go at me. At least I didn't do that to you.

And that's MY personality talking.

!!!!!!!!

you mentioned a guy called Tom something, who you said was far worse; THAT'S who I was talking about; I said I was glad I wasn't here then, when personalities were given free rein or whatever it was you said

do NOT accuse me of rudeness, because I have gone out of my way not to be

trying reading ME for meaning, if you don't mind

My apologies - apparently I misunderstood.

[*julez* 124]

Well, then I suppose that we should just roll over and play dead.

Sorry, devilette, but I don't like that quitter attitude! Maybe it didn't make a diffence last time, maybe it won't this time BUT that doesn't mean people should give up trying. Imagine if so many before us had just accepted the status quo, instead of keeping up the fight for worthy causes - as women, you and I wouldn't have the right to vote, there would still be segregation, etc. Maybe this isn't quite as noble a cause, but it is still worth people fighting for it if they are so inclined.

Just remember its because people over the years have fought for what they believed in that we finally have a woman running for president! She might not get elected, but then again she might. But people have to try, regardless of the possibility of failure. Don't accept the status quo.

[no name 1]

Sorry, devilette, but I don't like that quitter attitude! Maybe it didn't make a diffence last time, maybe it won't this time BUT that doesn't mean people should give up trying. Imagine if so many before us had just accepted the status quo, instead of keeping up the fight for worthy causes - as women, you and I wouldn't have the right to vote, there would still be segregation, etc. Maybe this isn't quite as noble a cause, but it is still worth people fighting for it if they are so inclined.

Excuse me? When did I have a 'quitter attitude'????

All I'm saying is this thread started all high & mighty & we won't stand for USCIS treating us badly! Older members opinion's were shut down because they got quick NOA2s - which is beyond ridiculous.

Anyhow, I simply pointed out we(older VJers) are well versed in protest with USCIS. Had any 'newbies' (who so callously dismissed older members advice) cared to delve deeper, they would see it has been done before, and I'm confident there will be protests again.

RJ offered some very good points about how to affect change, BESIDES writing letters to USCIS. You think USCIS honestly wants more paper when they have 2 SEMI TRUCKS FULL OF APPLICATIONS in their parking lot????

Edited September 19, 2007 by devilette

[*julez* 124]

This is not a re-invention of the wheel....

Last year with the IMBRA RFE, many of us had no answers for weeks/months. We talked about protesting, we wrote letters, we contacted our congresspeople.

One VJer had a quite a big story (about the wait times for immigration) write up by AP that got picked up for national use. Didn't make a difference either way though.

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Thats why.