Student Tasered after questioning Kerry at forum

[Nessa 23]

still, it was fun

[Ban Hammer 13,678]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

[Ban Hammer 13,678]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

[pedroh 21]

LAWL

actually that cop got fired and joker sued the city.. cops can't beat you for telling them to ###### off

Edited October 25, 2007 by pedroh

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

The thing about the dog seemed ridiculous too - not so much to do with rights as heavy-handedness on the part of the police - of which there seems to be no shortage of examples.

[Drew and Tik 0]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Couldn't agree more. Let me just say that if someone is compliant and cool, I am a really awesome guy to get arrested by. Almost never have problems with people I've arrested, some of them have even described me as "such a nice guy" and once even "my best friend."

However, the second you resist in even the slightest way, presenting any sort of risk of me or another officer being physically injured (as this clown was obviously doing, if you don't think so you have never tried to put someone under custody), you are getting it. Not excessive force, but enough that you will stop and I will do whatever it takes until you're in handcuffs if you don't stop. This includes yelling orders, grabbing/hitting, pepper spray, baton, and, in a case where the individual has a lethal weapon, shooting the person.

Unfortunately we don't have tasers in my department, except for bosses and [sWAT] units. I got tasered in academy training and I would much rather be tasered than hit with a metal baton or even pepper sprayed really. If you get pepper sprayed you will be in pain for well over an hour usually. If you get tasered it will hurt for under a minute and then you won't even feel it.

No offense at all, but some people need to hold their opinions until they experience a situation for themselves, or at the very least consider the reasoning behind certain actions someone in a particular profession undertakes.

Being a cop is a lot like being a professional athlete (with a lot less pay and glorification)...everyone sees what you do and thinks they can do it better. Well, you're welcomed to try, I know we're hiring here

[Ban Hammer 13,678]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

The thing about the dog seemed ridiculous too - not so much to do with rights as heavy-handedness on the part of the police - of which there seems to be no shortage of examples.

would it have been better to let that clown continue annoying the dog until it chomped on him?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

The thing about the dog seemed ridiculous too - not so much to do with rights as heavy-handedness on the part of the police - of which there seems to be no shortage of examples.

would it have been better to let that clown continue annoying the dog until it chomped on him?

As I read it - the guy was charged with shouting at the dog after it startled him by barking at him from the patrol car when he walked by. Arresting a guy for that seems rather frivolous.

[Ban Hammer 13,678]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

The thing about the dog seemed ridiculous too - not so much to do with rights as heavy-handedness on the part of the police - of which there seems to be no shortage of examples.

would it have been better to let that clown continue annoying the dog until it chomped on him?

As I read it - the guy was charged with shouting at the dog after it startled him by barking at him from the patrol car when he walked by. Arresting a guy for that seems rather frivolous.

you didn't answer me.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think that in either example that any degree of "excessive force" was justified.

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

The thing about the dog seemed ridiculous too - not so much to do with rights as heavy-handedness on the part of the police - of which there seems to be no shortage of examples.

would it have been better to let that clown continue annoying the dog until it chomped on him?

As I read it - the guy was charged with shouting at the dog after it startled him by barking at him from the patrol car when he walked by. Arresting a guy for that seems rather frivolous.

you didn't answer me.

Answer what exactly? The only annoyance the guy caused was shouting "shut up" after the dog startled him. Its not like it was tied to a post and he was flicking its hind parts with a wet towel

Ever had a barking dog make you jump when you're walking down a street? I have... Guess what? I told the dog to shut up.

[Ban Hammer 13,678]

I don't think they used "excessive force" with that a-hole in Florida.

He resisted to prison forcefully. They tased him. The end. He is ok and still the same douche.

The british case is unexcusable, because they killed a guy before being sure he was who they were looking for.

You could kinda understand where they were coming from, but they are murderers and should be treated as such.

Whether the guy deserved it or not, in your opinion, doesn't justify the use of force. It looks OTT to me - but that's just my opinion. I don't dispute that the guy was loud and obnoxious. That's one thing. Being a danger to yourself and others is quite another. As far as that goes - these days you need only sneeze on an officer's sleeve, or use a colorful word and its classed as resisting - netting you pretty much the same charge as if you resisted with real violence.

maybe the guy that got zapped should learn to follow the instructions of the police.

and he should learn to stfu too

Perhaps so should the guy who got arrested for telling the police dog to shut up?

Whether the guy deserved it is quite apart from whether the actions taken were appropriate. I simply don't think they were.

antagonizing the police dog isn't a right and the guy doing so got what he deserved.

and we'll just have to disagree about the chopf### student getting tazed.

The thing about the dog seemed ridiculous too - not so much to do with rights as heavy-handedness on the part of the police - of which there seems to be no shortage of examples.

would it have been better to let that clown continue annoying the dog until it chomped on him?

As I read it - the guy was charged with shouting at the dog after it startled him by barking at him from the patrol car when he walked by. Arresting a guy for that seems rather frivolous.

you didn't answer me.

Answer what exactly? The only annoyance the guy caused was shouting "shut up" after the dog startled him. Its not like it was tied to a post and he was flicking its hind parts with a wet towel

Ever had a barking dog make you jump when you're walking down a street? I have... Guess what? I told the dog to shut up.

the question has been bolded for the eyesight impaired. it does have a question mark at the end of the sentence, denoting a question

as far as telling a dog to shut up, perhaps it's never dawned on you that unless the dog knows you, you're wasting your breath?

"if you think you're important, try bossing someone else's dog around."

[Drew and Tik 0]

Number 6, you have no idea what you're talking about.

They did those people a favor by tasering them, if they actually had to put their hands on them the perpetrator and officers could have been injured. That doesn't sound good for anyone to me.

Also you need to learn what the term serious physical injury means. Being tasered would barely even fall under the definition of physical injury, let alone serious physical injury.

[Drew and Tik 0]

PS- No hard feelings either mate, I didn't intend to demean your intelligence, I'm sure you're a smart guy, just that in this case you don't really understand the full schematics of these situations. Liberal or conservative, try to see it from the point of view of safe, effective law enforcement. If an individual needed to be arrested and wouldn't do it voluntarily, what would you do if you were the police officer that needed to arrest them?

Anyway, I'm not one to start drama so I wanted to put that edit in there. Just want you to think about it, I'm actually pretty open-minded, but I also like to take a rational approach to my job and the best way to do it

[Fandango 1,440]

Hey Mr. Fancypants:

Here's the continuation to the story you posted some time ago. I thought you might be interested in the follow up. Unfortunately we could not taser the dude (excuse me, bro) again (but we're working on it).

http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/2007...50322/1002/NEWS

Seems like the guy had planned the whole thing.

Planned to get tasered for being annoying?