Attention Fiance fraud

[ayesha4akram 0]

Hi ladies i am a member here but not that active on VJ. I am here today because a few of my dear friends found something very disturbing here and i am grateful they did. I found out that my fiancé had another woman as his fiancé at same time as me. Apparently he used or shall i say used myself for $$, relationship and gifts as well as using her for same. This is a very hard thing for me to do but feel she needs to know as i do. i was with him for over 2 years and i had no clue until recently what he is capable of. I caution ALL ladies to visit many times as you can to really know what you are facing. Listen to your friends i should have listened closer but i did listen before it was tooo late. This man can become abusive as i came to find out my last trip to Marco. Please be careful. He hurt my kids and my self. He has lied and used. I really loved him despite the craziness of our ages (which i found out a yr later he lied about) for he never acted his age at all he acted a lot older than my self but i will NEVER do that again. Much valued and learned experience. I could HATE him for having me to love him and his family but i do not. I have tooo much love in my heart to have my hatred for him tear me up. I know now he wanted easy entry into the USA and that is all, no matter the consequences. Be careful means do not file for your guy till you have visited him a few times first and ALWAYS FOLLOW YOUR instincts. If you know the woman in this pic on my page, plz let her know. Inchalla he has not hurt anyone else. Thank you for listening.

The former Wigena Koukouch

I have emailed you in private after i got the call from my friend that asked me to go see what ya had to tell those people...im back here when i have decided before not to coz i got nothing to do here but wishing all the couples a good luck.....IM NOT SURPRISED OR SHOCKED WHEN SOMEONE FROM HERE SENDS ME A SWEET MESAGE OR POST A SWEET COMMENT....BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE MY PICTURE IN FRONT OF PEOPLE DARKER...AND MOST OF THEM ARE AMERICANS BELONG TO THE SAME CULTURE SO OF COURSE THEY WILL TAKE YOUR SIDE ....BUT I REALLY BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT YOU DONT TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS...HOW IT STARTED THE RELATIONSHIP AND HOW IT WAS AND HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO END .

SHAME ON YOU TO SAY IM USING MY WIFE (10 Sept got married in Kenitra)....SORRY TO TELL YA THAT BUT I CANT COMPARE YOU TO HER ?NO WAY THAT WOULD WORK I SWEAR NO WAY ..SHE HAS SOMETHING BE NATUE I COULD NOT PROVIDE YA WITH ...TO CUT IT SHORT SHE OWNS MY HEART AND BODY AND SOUL....YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT OR DONT THATS YOUR OWN PROBLEM NOW...

YOU MADE YOURSELF LOOK AN ANGEL AND IM THE BIGGEST ####### IN THE WORLD...WHATEVER YA THINK I DONT CARE NOW .....BUT HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT ME I HAVE NEVER SAID I LOVE YOU TO YA AND I WAS FRANK WITH YA I WAS TELLING YA I DONT LOVE YA ....HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT I ASKED YA TO STAY IN YOUR HOME AND DONT COME HERE TO MOROCCO......HAVE YOIU EVER SAID TO THOSE PEOPLE HERE THAT I WAS TYING TO RUN AWAY AND NEVER EVEN WANTE DTO SHARE BED WITH YA .....HAVE YA EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE GIVING ME HEADACHE DOWN THE STREETS BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANT SOMEONE TO BE WITH US AND DID NOT WANT TO BE WITH YA ALONE .....HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT I USED TO SHARE ROOM WITH MY UNCLE AND YA SLEEP ALONE CRYING BECAUSE YA KNEW I DID NOT WANT IT....HAVE YA EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE PROMPTING ME AND EVEN HAD TO ASK ME TO HOLD HANDS OUTSIDE AND I WAS MAKING EXCUSES....HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THEM THAT I HAVE BEEN THREATENED ON THE PHONE THAT I WILL GET SHOT IF I GET THERE AND YA KNOW WHO DID THAT....

YOU ARE SAYING ILLUSIONS TO THOSE PEOPLE AND GIVING THEM A WRONG IDEA .....THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT YA WERE LEADING A RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONE..A RELATIONSHIP THAT I DID NOT WANT TO BE IN...I WAS GETTING MYSELF OUT OF IT SLOWLY AND EASILY AND CAREFULLY.....FOLKS IF SHE HAS BEEN POSTING GOOD MEMORIES AND GOOD STUFF HERE WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT CAN I DO ....IM JUST WONDERING WHERE IS MY GOOD MEMORIES I GOT NONE ...WE ARGUE ..WE FOUGHT...WE STOP TALKING TO EACH OTHER FOR HOURS..WE CAUSED EACH OTHE HEADACHE THATS ALL I FELT ...AND SHE KNEW ABOUT MY FRIEND WHEN UNFORTUNATELY AND UNLUCKY FOR ME SHE WAS (fiance)...I EVEN TALKED TO HER AND HER MOM IN FRONT OF HER FROM A HOTEL (that we fought in again one day before she leaves)...SHE KNEW ABOUT HER AND I NEVER HAVE BEEN IN 2 RELATIONSHIPS THAT ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE ....I WAS IN LOVE WHEN I REALIZED THAT WE WILL NEVER MAKE IT TOGTHER AND THAT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION FOR BOTH OF US AND WANTED TO STAY FREINDS..COZ SHE ALREADY A LOVED FRIEND OF FAMILY HERE..

AHH AND ANOTHER THING IM NOT DENYING SHE USED TO HELP FINANCIALLY YEAH THATS TRUE ..BUT ME 20 OLD NOT HAVING BUNCHES OF $$ HOW CAN I AFFORD TO HOST HER HERE ...ESPECIALLY MY FATHER NEVER WANTED HER IN THE HOUSE ..AND NEVE WANTED TO EVEN MEET WITH HER ...SHE GOT TO MEET MOM AND SIBLINGS JUST SINGLE TRIP ...AND YEAH I GOT SOME VERY VERY HUMBLE GIFTS LIKE POSTCARDS ...4 UNDERWEARS THAT I GAVE TO MY BRO ...2PENS...ADAPTER...LIL SMALL CARS FOR MY BRO....AND 3 SWEATERS I GAVE TO MY BRO BECAUSE I DONT WEAR WHAT SHE BROUGHT....THE ONLY THING I TOUCH SOMETIMES IS A PUMA SHOES...WELL IM JUST STATTING THE FACTS WHAT GIFTS I GOT HERE ......

NOW AND BEFORE I GET DONE ..SHE TALKED ABOUT ME LOOKING FOR AN EASY ENTRY TO USA ...OK MISS WIGENA I THINK YA OFFERED ME THIS AND YA WANTED ME THERE AND YA PROVIDED ME WITH AN EASY ENTRY TO USA AS YA SAID RIGHT ????????????????OK AND HOW IT WAS MY REACTION YA NEED TO BE HONEST WITH THOSE PEOPLE....IT WAS ME WHO REJECTED IT ...BECAUSE EVEN IF YA WOULD PROVIDE ME WITH AN EASY ENTRY TO SOMETHING MORE PRECIOUS THAN US I WOULD ACT THE SAME WAY ...SORRY IT WAS ME WHO DID NOT WANT THE STATES SINCE STATES MEANS LIVING WITH SOMEONE I DONT LOVE AND I CANT LOVE AS A WOMAN ..I JUST SAID NO ...AND I HAD NO ONE IN MY LIFE AT THAT TIME....

SHAME ON YOU IF YA DARE TO COMPARE YOUSELF TO MY CURRENT WOMAN ..FAR FAR FAR AWAY ..THE WAY I FEEL TOWARDS HER I NEVER FELT IT TOWARDS ANYONE BEFORE ...THATS THE TRUTH I FEEL INSIDE BELIEVE IT OR NOT THATS U OWN PROBLEM ...

I REALLY TOUGHT YA CAN BE MORE UNDERSTANDING AND WISER ENOUGH...MY BROTHE TOLD YA ON THE PHONE HE IS HAPPY FOR ME AND THAT YA SHOULD BE HAPPY FOR ANYONE FOUND HAPPINESS..HE WAS WRONG TO SAY THIS BUT IM NOT ASKING YA TO BE HAPPY FOR ME ...I STILL DONT HATE YA AND I STILL RESPECT YA AND WISH YA THE BEST ...

NAWAL MY AUNT AND ABIRE SAID THEY WILL SHOP SOMETHING FOR YA TO SEND OFF BY CHRISTMAS TIME..I HOPE THEY WOULD NOT CHNAGE THEIR MINDS AFTER THEY SEE THIS....IF YA WANNA TALK TO MY WIFE TO WARN HER AS YA SAID JUST WRITE US PRIVATELY AND WE WILL GIVE YA THE NUMBER AND I DONT GARANTEE TO YA SHE WOULD BE NICE ANYWAYS...WE TRULY LOVE EACH OTHER BEYOND ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AND STOP HUMILIATING MY PICTURE AND MOROCANS WITH ILLUSIONS ...THOSE POPLE THAT COME HERE READ..THEIR JUDGEMENTS ARE BASED ON WHAT THEY READ ....IM POSITIVE THEY WOULD HAVE CHNAGED THEIR IDEA IF THEY WERE AN EYEWITNESSES OF WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS UNFORTUNATELY WE BEEN IN....YOU ARE SORE NOW AND FEELING BAD BECAUSE HONESTY HURTS AND I NEVER LIED TO YA ABOUT MY FEELINGS...I NEVER SAID I LOVE YA SORRY BUT I COULD NOT LIE AND SAID I LOVE YA WHEN I WAS NOT .

okkkkk, let me say my 2 cents and that'll be it , i never post to things like this, but my blood is boiling and i really need to get this out.

Ummm in the comment you made (i put in bold first), i'm sorry to say this, but it isn't her that's making you look like what you just said, it's what you posted that makes you look like one...

I'm wondering what if you were ever taught being a gentleman. Real men don't do what you just did. (now keep in mind, that i know nothing about you, but your post really describes you).

ok, the second thing i put in bold about the easy entry, i wanted to ask, if you rejected it so much and you were clear about not loving her, why did you accept the gifts? huh? i mean if i have nothing to do with someone, the normal reaction would be to return them immediately.

on to the last point about you saying "shame on you"... i really thing YOU should be the one ashamed of yourself, for venting all this filth here, which by the way makes you less of a 'man'!

ohhhhhh how i miss my habiby . People like you make me appreciate and love him each day more!

And one more thing, only God and the people involved know the real truth, you can lie till you're blue in the face, and that might fool humans, but never God, so be careful.

edit... the last bold.. you said you never said you loved her, but i'm wondering how she became your fiance? you had to have said something for that to happen, ughhh

Edited September 17, 2007 by ayesha4akram

[~Jackie~ 30]

Oh my. Yet another disgruntled man trying to defend his actions. To quote Bon Jovi---'You give love a bad name....'

Girl, hold your head up, you are strong and don't ever let this excuse for a man affect you. To come on here and type such personal things about gifts and family reaction. Shame. Haram.

Jackie

[chaishai 1]

I hope wigena reports him to the INS - we do not need another freaking idiot like this in the country. I hope that his fiance figures this out. Scum of the earth.

[ya falaha! 0]

I was thinking that, too. I wonder what his chances are of getting here easily if she reports him plus he's got that other cancelled petition against him, too. Either way I pray he doesn't step foot in this country. Like you said, we don't need another a-hole in this country...we have enough already.

I hope wigena reports him to the INS - we do not need another freaking idiot like this in the country. I hope that his fiance figures this out. Scum of the earth.

[amal 4]

wow, just wow

[bakofoil 27]

It doesn't take the thread starter to make this man look shameful.

Airing his dirty laundry has made the grease spots all the more glaringly obvious. There are so many inconsistencies in his posts (he quotes various dates for the marriage or intention to marry this unfortunate girl he's with now) that he himself has made it perfectly obvious why he was engaged to this poor woman.

He says he never loved her - makes it difficult then to genuinely submit the I-129F package, parts of which he would have had to sign to state his intention to marry a woman he does not love. Oh, and don't even think about telling us that she submitted without your consent. Biographic info can only come from a consenting individual.

He's made himself look foolish AND dishonest. Tell the US embassy, USCIS, whomever relevant. No wonder the visa process takes so long.

Edited September 17, 2007 by babblesgirl

[~~~water~~~ 0]

can she let the morocaan embassy know about him? That way they will see him coming. He is such a loser ... what an ### hes response just maks that all the more clear

Edited September 17, 2007 by water is wide

[mybackpages 0]

His version doesn't quite match the happy couple pics that the OP has posted on her profile either.

I'm still waiting for the answer to my question in PM. How does a good Moroccan man explain allowing this woman to come to Morocco and file a fiance visa on his behalf if everythign he says is true?

[caybee 21]

Hi ladies i am a member here but not that active on VJ. I am here today because a few of my dear friends found something very disturbing here and i am grateful they did. I found out that my fiancé had another woman as his fiancé at same time as me. Apparently he used or shall i say used myself for $$, relationship and gifts as well as using her for same. This is a very hard thing for me to do but feel she needs to know as i do. i was with him for over 2 years and i had no clue until recently what he is capable of. I caution ALL ladies to visit many times as you can to really know what you are facing. Listen to your friends i should have listened closer but i did listen before it was tooo late. This man can become abusive as i came to find out my last trip to Marco. Please be careful. He hurt my kids and my self. He has lied and used. I really loved him despite the craziness of our ages (which i found out a yr later he lied about) for he never acted his age at all he acted a lot older than my self but i will NEVER do that again. Much valued and learned experience. I could HATE him for having me to love him and his family but i do not. I have tooo much love in my heart to have my hatred for him tear me up. I know now he wanted easy entry into the USA and that is all, no matter the consequences. Be careful means do not file for your guy till you have visited him a few times first and ALWAYS FOLLOW YOUR instincts. If you know the woman in this pic on my page, plz let her know. Inchalla he has not hurt anyone else. Thank you for listening.

The former Wigena Koukouch

I have emailed you in private after i got the call from my friend that asked me to go see what ya had to tell those people...im back here when i have decided before not to coz i got nothing to do here but wishing all the couples a good luck.....IM NOT SURPRISED OR SHOCKED WHEN SOMEONE FROM HERE SENDS ME A SWEET MESAGE OR POST A SWEET COMMENT....BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE MY PICTURE IN FRONT OF PEOPLE DARKER...AND MOST OF THEM ARE AMERICANS BELONG TO THE SAME CULTURE SO OF COURSE THEY WILL TAKE YOUR SIDE ....BUT I REALLY BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT YOU DONT TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS...HOW IT STARTED THE RELATIONSHIP AND HOW IT WAS AND HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO END .

SHAME ON YOU TO SAY IM USING MY WIFE (10 Sept got married in Kenitra)....SORRY TO TELL YA THAT BUT I CANT COMPARE YOU TO HER ?NO WAY THAT WOULD WORK I SWEAR NO WAY ..SHE HAS SOMETHING BE NATUE I COULD NOT PROVIDE YA WITH ...TO CUT IT SHORT SHE OWNS MY HEART AND BODY AND SOUL....YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT OR DONT THATS YOUR OWN PROBLEM NOW...

YOU MADE YOURSELF LOOK AN ANGEL AND IM THE BIGGEST ####### IN THE WORLD...WHATEVER YA THINK I DONT CARE NOW .....BUT HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT ME I HAVE NEVER SAID I LOVE YOU TO YA AND I WAS FRANK WITH YA I WAS TELLING YA I DONT LOVE YA ....HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT I ASKED YA TO STAY IN YOUR HOME AND DONT COME HERE TO MOROCCO......HAVE YOIU EVER SAID TO THOSE PEOPLE HERE THAT I WAS TYING TO RUN AWAY AND NEVER EVEN WANTE DTO SHARE BED WITH YA .....HAVE YA EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE GIVING ME HEADACHE DOWN THE STREETS BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANT SOMEONE TO BE WITH US AND DID NOT WANT TO BE WITH YA ALONE .....HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT I USED TO SHARE ROOM WITH MY UNCLE AND YA SLEEP ALONE CRYING BECAUSE YA KNEW I DID NOT WANT IT....HAVE YA EVER TOLD THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE PROMPTING ME AND EVEN HAD TO ASK ME TO HOLD HANDS OUTSIDE AND I WAS MAKING EXCUSES....HAVE YOU EVER TOLD THEM THAT I HAVE BEEN THREATENED ON THE PHONE THAT I WILL GET SHOT IF I GET THERE AND YA KNOW WHO DID THAT....

YOU ARE SAYING ILLUSIONS TO THOSE PEOPLE AND GIVING THEM A WRONG IDEA .....THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT YA WERE LEADING A RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONE..A RELATIONSHIP THAT I DID NOT WANT TO BE IN...I WAS GETTING MYSELF OUT OF IT SLOWLY AND EASILY AND CAREFULLY.....FOLKS IF SHE HAS BEEN POSTING GOOD MEMORIES AND GOOD STUFF HERE WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT CAN I DO ....IM JUST WONDERING WHERE IS MY GOOD MEMORIES I GOT NONE ...WE ARGUE ..WE FOUGHT...WE STOP TALKING TO EACH OTHER FOR HOURS..WE CAUSED EACH OTHE HEADACHE THATS ALL I FELT ...AND SHE KNEW ABOUT MY FRIEND WHEN UNFORTUNATELY AND UNLUCKY FOR ME SHE WAS (fiance)...I EVEN TALKED TO HER AND HER MOM IN FRONT OF HER FROM A HOTEL (that we fought in again one day before she leaves)...SHE KNEW ABOUT HER AND I NEVER HAVE BEEN IN 2 RELATIONSHIPS THAT ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE ....I WAS IN LOVE WHEN I REALIZED THAT WE WILL NEVER MAKE IT TOGTHER AND THAT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION FOR BOTH OF US AND WANTED TO STAY FREINDS..COZ SHE ALREADY A LOVED FRIEND OF FAMILY HERE..

AHH AND ANOTHER THING IM NOT DENYING SHE USED TO HELP FINANCIALLY YEAH THATS TRUE ..BUT ME 20 OLD NOT HAVING BUNCHES OF $$ HOW CAN I AFFORD TO HOST HER HERE ...ESPECIALLY MY FATHER NEVER WANTED HER IN THE HOUSE ..AND NEVE WANTED TO EVEN MEET WITH HER ...SHE GOT TO MEET MOM AND SIBLINGS JUST SINGLE TRIP ...AND YEAH I GOT SOME VERY VERY HUMBLE GIFTS LIKE POSTCARDS ...4 UNDERWEARS THAT I GAVE TO MY BRO ...2PENS...ADAPTER...LIL SMALL CARS FOR MY BRO....AND 3 SWEATERS I GAVE TO MY BRO BECAUSE I DONT WEAR WHAT SHE BROUGHT....THE ONLY THING I TOUCH SOMETIMES IS A PUMA SHOES...WELL IM JUST STATTING THE FACTS WHAT GIFTS I GOT HERE ......

NOW AND BEFORE I GET DONE ..SHE TALKED ABOUT ME LOOKING FOR AN EASY ENTRY TO USA ...OK MISS WIGENA I THINK YA OFFERED ME THIS AND YA WANTED ME THERE AND YA PROVIDED ME WITH AN EASY ENTRY TO USA AS YA SAID RIGHT ????????????????OK AND HOW IT WAS MY REACTION YA NEED TO BE HONEST WITH THOSE PEOPLE....IT WAS ME WHO REJECTED IT ...BECAUSE EVEN IF YA WOULD PROVIDE ME WITH AN EASY ENTRY TO SOMETHING MORE PRECIOUS THAN US I WOULD ACT THE SAME WAY ...SORRY IT WAS ME WHO DID NOT WANT THE STATES SINCE STATES MEANS LIVING WITH SOMEONE I DONT LOVE AND I CANT LOVE AS A WOMAN ..I JUST SAID NO ...AND I HAD NO ONE IN MY LIFE AT THAT TIME....

SHAME ON YOU IF YA DARE TO COMPARE YOUSELF TO MY CURRENT WOMAN ..FAR FAR FAR AWAY ..THE WAY I FEEL TOWARDS HER I NEVER FELT IT TOWARDS ANYONE BEFORE ...THATS THE TRUTH I FEEL INSIDE BELIEVE IT OR NOT THATS U OWN PROBLEM ...

I REALLY TOUGHT YA CAN BE MORE UNDERSTANDING AND WISER ENOUGH...MY BROTHE TOLD YA ON THE PHONE HE IS HAPPY FOR ME AND THAT YA SHOULD BE HAPPY FOR ANYONE FOUND HAPPINESS..HE WAS WRONG TO SAY THIS BUT IM NOT ASKING YA TO BE HAPPY FOR ME ...I STILL DONT HATE YA AND I STILL RESPECT YA AND WISH YA THE BEST ...

NAWAL MY AUNT AND ABIRE SAID THEY WILL SHOP SOMETHING FOR YA TO SEND OFF BY CHRISTMAS TIME..I HOPE THEY WOULD NOT CHNAGE THEIR MINDS AFTER THEY SEE THIS....IF YA WANNA TALK TO MY WIFE TO WARN HER AS YA SAID JUST WRITE US PRIVATELY AND WE WILL GIVE YA THE NUMBER AND I DONT GARANTEE TO YA SHE WOULD BE NICE ANYWAYS...WE TRULY LOVE EACH OTHER BEYOND ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AND STOP HUMILIATING MY PICTURE AND MOROCANS WITH ILLUSIONS ...THOSE POPLE THAT COME HERE READ..THEIR JUDGEMENTS ARE BASED ON WHAT THEY READ ....IM POSITIVE THEY WOULD HAVE CHNAGED THEIR IDEA IF THEY WERE AN EYEWITNESSES OF WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS UNFORTUNATELY WE BEEN IN....YOU ARE SORE NOW AND FEELING BAD BECAUSE HONESTY HURTS AND I NEVER LIED TO YA ABOUT MY FEELINGS...I NEVER SAID I LOVE YA SORRY BUT I COULD NOT LIE AND SAID I LOVE YA WHEN I WAS NOT .

If you were so bent on getting away from Wigena, why did you travel from Taza to Casa in March/April to meet her again when things had just gotten serious with the woman behind Door Number Two? Insurance maybe? You didn't have to see her again. You chose to.

Did you not complete and sign the G325-A?

Did you not sign a letter of intent to marry Wigena?

Did you not lie to Wigena about your age?

Did you not threaten Wigena's life?

Did your brother not contact Wigena asking for money because you were "seriously ill" in the hospital? Oh, but he was just a kid, and as you wrote above, you are only 20 yourself. You need someone to give you money and stuff, even though the gifts she got you and your family weren't good enough in your eyes (well, the Pumas were aight). Rich as she is, she was just throwing money around anyway, so why shouldn't you hold out your hand and ensure a good return with the hospital story? That death's door thing is always a great motivator. She's only got kids at home, housing bills, utility bills, grocery bills, insurance... and there's that money tree in her backyard.

You said before that you intended to marry your new fiancée on October 15. Your story first unraveled here on September 1, and you bumped up the wedding date and married your fiancée on September 12. Two weeks to run around and get the paperwork together -- sounds about right. Convenient that she now finds herself legally bound to you. Wonder how much she really does know. But you're right, she'd never believe it now anyway. Nobody wants to believe they've just been bamboozled, and once the papers are all signed, she's way more likely to plug those ears. For now anyway.

You certainly have every right to back out of an engagement, but I have followed this story the whole time your relationship with Wigena was going on, as have others, and I truly believe you've been on a fishing expedition from the start. The first (?) lady you reached out for turned out to be more than you bargained for. She believed in you, gave you every chance. But alas, money for plane tickets and gifts really does slip through the fingers rather quickly, even for a rich American lady. No prob -- there's more where that came from. Just cut your losses (not that you lost anything) and move on to the next one. You played her, period. But as you say, you are only 20. Maybe you'll grow out of this, baby on the way and all. There is one big difference between the two ladies. One is still in the dark, and one is not.

Edited September 17, 2007 by mona_jamie

[chaishai 1]

they should make everyone trying to get a green card pass an intelligence test! this guy would fail hands down regardless if the test was administered in english or arabic. hes a snake and a user but he isnt even good at it! sorry i dont usually throw out the insults if someone bothers me on an internet forum in debates etc - but this situation is beyond that. its got me so annoyed and it puts so many stereotypes in my head, i just see people sitting around in cafes ready to pounce on innocent women. ugh!

[^KK^ 3]

Sorry to hear this....

[doodlebug 3]

does anyone know how to contact the new girl who is pregnant? She really should at least read this. Dispicable.

[*JG* 2]

Happens a LOT both ways in this day of hitech. Guys scamming woman and woman scamming guys to get to the US.

You can't blame some of them living in third world countries trying to better their families and their lives.

You just have to be aware it's happening more and more and proceed with caution.

Quote WC Fields!

"Sucker born every minute"

That was a long time ago and it's probably up to 20 suckers a minute by now!

I've seen it over and over again. Regardless of their motives, it is wrong to use people like that. Shame on them.

[PetraPerson101 0]

Oh my. Yet another disgruntled man trying to defend his actions. To quote Bon Jovi---'You give love a bad name....'

Girl, hold your head up, you are strong and don't ever let this excuse for a man affect you. To come on here and type such personal things about gifts and family reaction. Shame. Haram.

Jackie

Guys get burned sometimes too.

( me! me! )

I posted my support, and what - I'm Arab-American - most of my culture comes from my roots.

I experienced similar things, and I know for a fact. As an Arab - a man who asks his fiancee/wife for money and gifts - is garbage - is not a man.

A woman expecting gifts from her fiancee/husband I can see, but even then - there are normal cases, and abnormal cases. There are cultural norms that I well understand ~ and that's partly what I base my conclusions on.

Edited September 17, 2007 by KyanWan

[deemabrouk 0]

i read the post in the K1 section too.. its nuts.. i think Love story was writing.. posing as the Financee.. you could tell cause of the ya