The whole process is outrageous

[mox 298]

I think Alaskaone is just frustrated and blowing off some steam. I would just let it go.

[athena_ny 1]

Folks, we've all paid taxes... 31% off the top for most of us plus about another 20% in hidden taxes on goods and services. Why are we being milked again?

We want to marry someone. That's it. 9/11 was done by people approved by the feds to come to our country. Who has been punished? Nobody working for the Feds, that's for certain.

We're trying to get married and live happy ever after, that's all. USCIS is using it as an excuse to extract revenue from us.

All that can be reasonably asked of us is the following; a tax return (have ya got a job to support your new wife/husband with?) and a criminal background check on the fiance'. That's it. No more.

This wringer INS wants to smash us all through is just plain cruel and pointless.

Well, that's now how it is, and it's not going to change (and INS is no longer a department that exists), so either put up or shut up.

[Raspect 0]

I agree with you AlaskaOne

I do not think that immigration is fair at all

but also the reason I think it is unfair stems alot deeper than just 9/11

it has to due with the borders, which in turn equals the political system we use, well just alot alot of things

but I do agree with what you say Alaskaone

[alaskaone 0]

Folks, we've all paid taxes... 31% off the top for most of us plus about another 20% in hidden taxes on goods and services. Why are we being milked again?

We want to marry someone. That's it. 9/11 was done by people approved by the feds to come to our country. Who has been punished? Nobody working for the Feds, that's for certain.

We're trying to get married and live happy ever after, that's all. USCIS is using it as an excuse to extract revenue from us.

All that can be reasonably asked of us is the following; a tax return (have ya got a job to support your new wife/husband with?) and a criminal background check on the fiance'. That's it. No more.

This wringer INS wants to smash us all through is just plain cruel and pointless.

Well, that's now how it is, and it's not going to change (and INS is no longer a department that exists), so either put up or shut up.

"That's how it is and it's not going to change."

Says you. What a cowardly attitude. Put up or shut up? Do you want photos of the building, sweetie? Photos of the people inside the building, darling? It's the same building and the same people. I went through this whole damnable process ten years ago and in the decade past it's only gotten worse and ten times the cost in money and bloody pointless paperwork.

You want to bend over and lube up, fine. I've got to do the same thing but the difference between us appears to be that you like it and I don't. It's precisely your sort of attitude that has allowed the feds to spiral so far out of control.

They work for us. We do not work for them. How dare you forget that.

[athena_ny 1]

Folks, we've all paid taxes... 31% off the top for most of us plus about another 20% in hidden taxes on goods and services. Why are we being milked again?

We want to marry someone. That's it. 9/11 was done by people approved by the feds to come to our country. Who has been punished? Nobody working for the Feds, that's for certain.

We're trying to get married and live happy ever after, that's all. USCIS is using it as an excuse to extract revenue from us.

All that can be reasonably asked of us is the following; a tax return (have ya got a job to support your new wife/husband with?) and a criminal background check on the fiance'. That's it. No more.

This wringer INS wants to smash us all through is just plain cruel and pointless.

Well, that's now how it is, and it's not going to change (and INS is no longer a department that exists), so either put up or shut up.

"That's how it is and it's not going to change."

Says you. What a cowardly attitude. Put up or shut up? Do you want photos of the building, sweetie? Photos of the people inside the building, darling? It's the same building and the same people. I went through this whole damnable process ten years ago and in the decade past it's only gotten worse and ten times the cost in money and bloody pointless paperwork.

You want to bend over and lube up, fine. I've got to do the same thing but the difference between us appears to be that you like it and I don't. It's precisely your sort of attitude that has allowed the feds to spiral so far out of control.

They work for us. We do not work for them. How dare you forget that.

I like what? We got our AOS approval in 7 weeks, so I have no complaints. I feel bad for people like RJ and LAL who had to wait through name checks and did so graciously. If I had a problem, I would do something about it - you won't even write to your congress(wo)man. Nothing gets done whining away on an internet message board, but that's all you see fit to do. Wonder who the real coward is then?

If you want things to change do something productive regarding your wants and desires. This is not productive.

And a tip: politicians and government don't take well to crazy people screaming and shouting. Maybe that's why your results have been so shockingly nonexistant, if this ####### here is any hint to your behavior.

[alaskaone 0]

*March 2002 - He enters USA on tourist visa.

*August 2005 - We meet at a party when he's on vacation

*October 2005 - He finds me on myspace

*January 2006 - Officially enter into long-distance relationship (NY to FL)

*March 2006 - I visit FL

*May 2006 - I visit FL again

*July 2006 - I move to FL

*September 30, 2006 - Officially engaged

*January 5th, 2007 - MARRIED!

*Feburary 26, 2007 - Send in AOS/EAD application with I-130. The wait begins...

*March 02, 2007 - Package delivered @ 1.39 pm in Chicago (Day 1)

*March 08, 2007 - Package received at MSC (Day 6)

*March 12, 2007 - Received NOA for I-130, I-485, and I-765 from MSC (Day 10)

*March 14, 2007 - EAD *touched* (Day 12)

*March 16, 2007 - Received biometrics appt letter (Day 14)

*March 21, 2007 - I-485 and I-130 *touched* (Day 19)

*March 30, 2007 - Received interview notice (Day 28)

*April 10, 2007 - Biometrics appt (Day 39)

*April 11, 2007 - AOS/EAD/I-130 *touched* (Day 40)

*April 26, 2007 - Interview appt in Tampa (Day 55) - APPROVED!

*April 27, 2007 - Notice mailed welcoming new permanent resident

*May 01, 2007 - Green card production ordered!

*May 04, 2007 - I-485 approval notice sent

*May 08, 2007 - I-485 touched

*May 10, 2007- GREEN CARD RECEIVED!

*May 16, 2007 - EAD touched...what!?

*January 26, 2009 - File I-751 to remove conditions

Just look at that! This poor couple, they began in March, 2002 and won't be done for another couple of years!

Does that seem anything close to reasonable? Does it seem anything near to just? What is the point in all those wasted years, all those endless fees, reams of duplicate paperwork, anxiety, fear and uncertainty?

We're not criminals. We're not dangerous. We didn't bomb anyone, we didn't hijack any aircraft, we aren't plotting anything.

We're just trying to get married.

[*JG* 2]

*March 2002 - He enters USA on tourist visa.

*August 2005 - We meet at a party when he's on vacation

*October 2005 - He finds me on myspace

*January 2006 - Officially enter into long-distance relationship (NY to FL)

*March 2006 - I visit FL

*May 2006 - I visit FL again

*July 2006 - I move to FL

*September 30, 2006 - Officially engaged

*January 5th, 2007 - MARRIED!

*Feburary 26, 2007 - Send in AOS/EAD application with I-130. The wait begins...

*March 02, 2007 - Package delivered @ 1.39 pm in Chicago (Day 1)

*March 08, 2007 - Package received at MSC (Day 6)

*March 12, 2007 - Received NOA for I-130, I-485, and I-765 from MSC (Day 10)

*March 14, 2007 - EAD *touched* (Day 12)

*March 16, 2007 - Received biometrics appt letter (Day 14)

*March 21, 2007 - I-485 and I-130 *touched* (Day 19)

*March 30, 2007 - Received interview notice (Day 28)

*April 10, 2007 - Biometrics appt (Day 39)

*April 11, 2007 - AOS/EAD/I-130 *touched* (Day 40)

*April 26, 2007 - Interview appt in Tampa (Day 55) - APPROVED!

*April 27, 2007 - Notice mailed welcoming new permanent resident

*May 01, 2007 - Green card production ordered!

*May 04, 2007 - I-485 approval notice sent

*May 08, 2007 - I-485 touched

*May 10, 2007- GREEN CARD RECEIVED!

*May 16, 2007 - EAD touched...what!?

*January 26, 2009 - File I-751 to remove conditions

Just look at that! This poor couple, they began in March, 2002 and won't be done for another couple of years!

Does that seem anything close to reasonable? Does it seem anything near to just? What is the point in all those wasted years, all those endless fees, reams of duplicate paperwork, anxiety, fear and uncertainty?

We're not criminals. We're not dangerous. We didn't bomb anyone, we didn't hijack any aircraft, we aren't plotting anything.

We're just trying to get married.

You wrote: *January 2006 - Officially enter into long-distance relationship (NY to FL)

What country are we really talking about here. I'm sorry....I'm confused.

[featherB 1]

*March 2002 - He enters USA on tourist visa.

*August 2005 - We meet at a party when he's on vacation

*October 2005 - He finds me on myspace

*January 2006 - Officially enter into long-distance relationship (NY to FL)

*March 2006 - I visit FL

*May 2006 - I visit FL again

*July 2006 - I move to FL

*September 30, 2006 - Officially engaged

*January 5th, 2007 - MARRIED!

*Feburary 26, 2007 - Send in AOS/EAD application with I-130. The wait begins...

*March 02, 2007 - Package delivered @ 1.39 pm in Chicago (Day 1)

*March 08, 2007 - Package received at MSC (Day 6)

*March 12, 2007 - Received NOA for I-130, I-485, and I-765 from MSC (Day 10)

*March 14, 2007 - EAD *touched* (Day 12)

*March 16, 2007 - Received biometrics appt letter (Day 14)

*March 21, 2007 - I-485 and I-130 *touched* (Day 19)

*March 30, 2007 - Received interview notice (Day 28)

*April 10, 2007 - Biometrics appt (Day 39)

*April 11, 2007 - AOS/EAD/I-130 *touched* (Day 40)

*April 26, 2007 - Interview appt in Tampa (Day 55) - APPROVED!

*April 27, 2007 - Notice mailed welcoming new permanent resident

*May 01, 2007 - Green card production ordered!

*May 04, 2007 - I-485 approval notice sent

*May 08, 2007 - I-485 touched

*May 10, 2007- GREEN CARD RECEIVED!

*May 16, 2007 - EAD touched...what!?

*January 26, 2009 - File I-751 to remove conditions

Just look at that! This poor couple, they began in March, 2002 and won't be done for another couple of years!

Does that seem anything close to reasonable? Does it seem anything near to just? What is the point in all those wasted years, all those endless fees, reams of duplicate paperwork, anxiety, fear and uncertainty?

We're not criminals. We're not dangerous. We didn't bomb anyone, we didn't hijack any aircraft, we aren't plotting anything.

We're just trying to get married.

What are you on about? It's irrelevant when they met, they filed their AOS package (doesn't look like they went the K-1 route) at the end of February THIS YEAR and had the green card in hand on May 10th. How outrageous, a wait of less than three months. Damn those 'feds'.

And sure, they won't be 'done' for another couple of years - but what particular horrendousness do you think the 'feds' are forcing them to endure before the time comes to lift conditions?

You appear to be a bit of a drama queen, Alaskaone.

[maya62 7]

Their first interaction with this cumbersome bureaucracy you're railing against was when they mailed the AOS app at the end of Feb 2007. They had the greencard by May 10. Three months. I see nothing to complain about.

M

[athena_ny 1]

*March 2002 - He enters USA on tourist visa.

*August 2005 - We meet at a party when he's on vacation

*October 2005 - He finds me on myspace

*January 2006 - Officially enter into long-distance relationship (NY to FL)

*March 2006 - I visit FL

*May 2006 - I visit FL again

*July 2006 - I move to FL

*September 30, 2006 - Officially engaged

*January 5th, 2007 - MARRIED!

*Feburary 26, 2007 - Send in AOS/EAD application with I-130. The wait begins...

*March 02, 2007 - Package delivered @ 1.39 pm in Chicago (Day 1)

*March 08, 2007 - Package received at MSC (Day 6)

*March 12, 2007 - Received NOA for I-130, I-485, and I-765 from MSC (Day 10)

*March 14, 2007 - EAD *touched* (Day 12)

*March 16, 2007 - Received biometrics appt letter (Day 14)

*March 21, 2007 - I-485 and I-130 *touched* (Day 19)

*March 30, 2007 - Received interview notice (Day 28)

*April 10, 2007 - Biometrics appt (Day 39)

*April 11, 2007 - AOS/EAD/I-130 *touched* (Day 40)

*April 26, 2007 - Interview appt in Tampa (Day 55) - APPROVED!

*April 27, 2007 - Notice mailed welcoming new permanent resident

*May 01, 2007 - Green card production ordered!

*May 04, 2007 - I-485 approval notice sent

*May 08, 2007 - I-485 touched

*May 10, 2007- GREEN CARD RECEIVED!

*May 16, 2007 - EAD touched...what!?

*January 26, 2009 - File I-751 to remove conditions

Just look at that! This poor couple, they began in March, 2002 and won't be done for another couple of years!

Does that seem anything close to reasonable? Does it seem anything near to just? What is the point in all those wasted years, all those endless fees, reams of duplicate paperwork, anxiety, fear and uncertainty?

We're not criminals. We're not dangerous. We didn't bomb anyone, we didn't hijack any aircraft, we aren't plotting anything.

We're just trying to get married.

You wrote: *January 2006 - Officially enter into long-distance relationship (NY to FL)

What country are we really talking about here. I'm sorry....I'm confused.

My husband is from Peru. Was already in the states. I didn't do K1, which is irrelevant to alaskaone being a total crazy drama queen.

[alaskaone 0]

If I had a problem, I would do something about it - you won't even write to your congress(wo)man. Nothing gets done whining away on an internet message board, but that's all you see fit to do. Wonder who the real coward is then?

You're laboring under a false assumption. Stevens, Murkowski & Young have all heard from me the last time I went through this wretched process. INS lied to us (my ex-wife & I) which ended up costing us over $8 grand and 6 months... and they ignored my representatives attempts at intervention on my behalf.

I've worked with Stevens, Murkowski & Young trying to reign in the EPA's ban on modern diesel engines... the EPA ignored them.

The lesson there is the bureaucracies are not under the control of congress. INS or whatever those fiends are calling themselves these days, are a bureaucracy... as vicious and dastardly as any other.

I'm glad you're all happy happy joy joy at your mistreatment. Good for you. Perhaps you don't care how bad things are going to get for the next group coming through a couple years down the line. Today adjustment of status is just a thousand dollars. Ten years from now it'll be $10,000 but so what?

I'm looking for a way to fight. If you've got no ideas other than submission then I'd appreciate it if you would keep your love of bureaucratic authoritarianism to yourself.

[athena_ny 1]

Their first interaction with this cumbersome bureaucracy you're railing against was when they mailed the AOS app at the end of Feb 2007. They had the greencard by May 10. Three months. I see nothing to complain about.

M

Our approval was extraordinarily quick, and I understand the frustration but just not the craziness as witnessed here and the total laziness to do anything productive, as the OP feels that he has to FIGHT and CHANGE THINGS! (and I've seen some members here try like hell to do the same with little or no results, so that's neither here nor there)

While having to pay more fees and fill out more forms isn't necessarily pleasing, it's worth my husband being here and not abandoning his status. Apparently that makes me a coward

[athena_ny 1]

If I had a problem, I would do something about it - you won't even write to your congress(wo)man. Nothing gets done whining away on an internet message board, but that's all you see fit to do. Wonder who the real coward is then?

You're laboring under a false assumption. Stevens, Murkowski & Young have all heard from me the last time I went through this wretched process. INS lied to us (my ex-wife & I) which ended up costing us over $8 grand and 6 months... and they ignored my representatives attempts at intervention on my behalf.

I've worked with Stevens, Murkowski & Young trying to reign in the EPA's ban on modern diesel engines... the EPA ignored them.

The lesson there is the bureaucracies are not under the control of congress. INS or whatever those fiends are calling themselves these days, are a bureaucracy... as vicious and dastardly as any other.

I'm glad you're all happy happy joy joy at your mistreatment. Good for you. Perhaps you don't care how bad things are going to get for the next group coming through a couple years down the line. Today adjustment of status is just a thousand dollars. Ten years from now it'll be $10,000 but so what?

I'm looking for a way to fight. If you've got no ideas other than submission then I'd appreciate it if you would keep your love of bureaucratic authoritarianism to yourself.

I'm not preaching submission, just not being a crazy person. I recommend you take RJ's suggestion and see a therapist to get some Xanax.

[pushbrk 12,898]

If I had a problem, I would do something about it - you won't even write to your congress(wo)man. Nothing gets done whining away on an internet message board, but that's all you see fit to do. Wonder who the real coward is then?

You're laboring under a false assumption. Stevens, Murkowski & Young have all heard from me the last time I went through this wretched process. INS lied to us (my ex-wife & I) which ended up costing us over $8 grand and 6 months... and they ignored my representatives attempts at intervention on my behalf.

I've worked with Stevens, Murkowski & Young trying to reign in the EPA's ban on modern diesel engines... the EPA ignored them.

The lesson there is the bureaucracies are not under the control of congress. INS or whatever those fiends are calling themselves these days, are a bureaucracy... as vicious and dastardly as any other.

I'm glad you're all happy happy joy joy at your mistreatment. Good for you. Perhaps you don't care how bad things are going to get for the next group coming through a couple years down the line. Today adjustment of status is just a thousand dollars. Ten years from now it'll be $10,000 but so what?

I'm looking for a way to fight. If you've got no ideas other than submission then I'd appreciate it if you would keep your love of bureaucratic authoritarianism to yourself.

Perhaps you would be happier in Finland. Go for it. Please.

[alaskaone 0]

I think Alaskaone is just frustrated and blowing off some steam. I would just let it go.

Yes, that's spot on because in a few hours I have to go into the pit of hell and ask them questions. Prior to entering the pit of hell, I'll have to pass through a pointless "security" where the metal detector will go off on my zipper and two old, unarmed security guards will wave the magic wand over my crotch until they figure out it's a zipper and not a nuclear weapon.

Then I'll have to go in and attempt to speak with a lazy, arrogant and sanctimonious piece of ####### who will tell me, again, that most foreigners just marry americans to get money.

I'm going to have to smile and be polite while talking to this creep through bullet proof glass and the positve air pressure inside will blow her foul breath out all over me.

So, yes... I'm letting off steam because if I don't then maybe I'll get snarky and the ###### will throw my file in the shredder. I'd even take some of those zanex or whatever the hell you stalinites are trying to drug me with just to ease this ordeal. If I drank, I'd have a couple of beers or whatever is good for numbing me down enough to stay calm.

The ####### they're putting us through is so utterly, utterly pointless.

Is that the America you folk want? A police state? A government so damned intrusive and pointless that they have to hide behind bullet proof glass and old men with metal detectors?