Has he been banned?

[no name 1]

Sister dev..my respect for you and all you did ..doing 9/11.. i did allot of cisd (critical incident stress debriefing) and managed calls from people who lost their total staff.. the red cross was a hero during this sadness to allot of people...dean

note. i could not add this as the thread was locked

Thanks. I didn't post that for props tho. It started out as a remembrance thread. I posted it so others could see how we NYers did have hope, and did get thru it, healing slowly. And we still are, 6 years later.

I wish it was all deleted now tho. Getting mocked for one of the worst periods of my life really freaking hurts.

Edited September 11, 2007 by devilette

[rebeccajo 14]

Its the typical VJ way - let someone run ramshod and be as insulting as they want to be, but they must violate TOS to get a ban?

Well, yes. Probably. Is that not the way it should be?

[TracyTN 237]

You have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of, Dev.

[Sister Fracas 5]

Dev, you don't seem to be enjoying VJ very much... maybe a break is a good thing. Maybe especially on a day like today when your emotions are running sky high. Just a thought.

Its the typical VJ way - let someone run ramshod and be as insulting as they want to be, but they must violate TOS to get a ban?

how else do you get a ban?

[TracyTN 237]

Its the typical VJ way - let someone run ramshod and be as insulting as they want to be, but they must violate TOS to get a ban?

Well, yes. Probably. Is that not the way it should be?

I agree that you must have some measuring stick. But when a thread about remembering 9/11 victims turns into one man's tyrade, at some point, common sense and decency should step in - whether or not a written down rule has been violated.

But that is not VJs style, so I don't even know why I bother to bring it up - except that I've seen other boards do it without hesitation so its puzzling why this place is different.

I'm quite sure people here have been given 'cool down' bans before. So now those were wrong (because they were not direct TOS violations)?

Edited September 11, 2007 by TracyTN

[rebeccajo 14]

Its the typical VJ way - let someone run ramshod and be as insulting as they want to be, but they must violate TOS to get a ban?

Well, yes. Probably. Is that not the way it should be?

I agree that you must have some measuring stick. But when a thread about remembering 9/11 victims turns into one man's tyrade, at some point, common sense and decency should step in - whether or not a written down rule has been violated.

But that is not VJs style, so I don't even know why I bother to bring it up - except that I've seen other boards do it without hesitation so its puzzling why this place is different.

Well - lol - if we are looking for a measuring stick for incidents like what we saw last night - I think we need a '$hit-stick' meter.

You know, like how deep is it?

Hmmm.....6 inches of $hit gets you a 24 hour ban. 12 inches - 48.

Some people would need entire barns.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

I havent even read the post in question but i do remember back some months with this same person being very rude and attacking it was questioned then maybe if the bottle wasnt doing the talking.....then they were gone for long time to return recently maybe the same reason for the talk now? it wasnt right then for attacks and not now either.

[Sister Fracas 5]

But that is not VJs style, so I don't even know why I bother to bring it up - except that I've seen other boards do it without hesitation so its puzzling why this place is different.

I'm quite sure people here have been given 'cool down' bans before. So now those were wrong (because they were not direct TOS violations)?

You know... there is never going to be a time that EVERYONE is satisfied. People complain threads are closed too quickly, moved, deleted, are too closely moderated and then others say they aren't closed quick enough, aren't moderated well enough, some get special treatment while others don't. All I can say is I'd NEVER want to be a moderator here OR the Capt, because they can't win.

Edited September 11, 2007 by Frances

[chri'stina 190]

Its the typical VJ way - let someone run ramshod and be as insulting as they want to be, but they must violate TOS to get a ban?

Well, yes. Probably. Is that not the way it should be?

I agree that you must have some measuring stick. But when a thread about remembering 9/11 victims turns into one man's tyrade, at some point, common sense and decency should step in - whether or not a written down rule has been violated.

But that is not VJs style, so I don't even know why I bother to bring it up - except that I've seen other boards do it without hesitation so its puzzling why this place is different.

The thread was locked, wasn't it? And within an hour when Ewok was probably the only Mod awake since he's in another country(I don't believe Mags is in PST and I know LAL is not). And we don't know whether Marc was banned yet because you can't tell by looking at someone's profile.

I disagree with the last part. Many of us at VJ will not stand for that and will report it, not just let it slip when someone is attacking another person especially in a touchy subject. VJ is not as bad as you think it is IMO.

[Jasman0717 9]

What did I miss and when does the next show start

[Jenn! 918]

And we don't know whether Marc was banned yet because you can't tell by looking at someone's profile.

I guess he might have been suspended, but he definitely hasn't gotten a lifetime ban, which I think is deserved. If he had, his member group would be "Disabled".

[Sister Fracas 5]

Many of us at VJ will not stand for that and will report it, not just let it slip when someone is attacking another person especially in a touchy subject. VJ is not as bad as you think it is IMO.

oh yeah, thanks Stina, that was my other point I forgot...folks say you are silly to report threads that we should all be adults, and yet others report....again...the mods and VJ can't win.

[john_and_marlene 162]

Does calling someone a piece of sh!t violate the TOS???????

I'd like to refer all namecallers to my introspection thread.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1182211

[TracyTN 237]

Well - lol - if we are looking for a measuring stick for incidents like what we saw last night - I think we need a '$hit-stick' meter.

You know, like how deep is it?

Hmmm.....6 inches of $hit gets you a 24 hour ban. 12 inches - 48.

Some people would need entire barns.

LOL well yeah, I guess that's what I mean. If there is never going to be any kind of repercussions for just flat out ####### behavior, then what's the point of even having admins or mods?

If we can't have some other 'decency barometer', then let's just term it exactly what it is - a free for all - and call it a day.

[Jenn! 918]

Does calling someone a piece of sh!t violate the TOS???????

I'd like to refer all namecallers to my introspection thread.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1182211

I really don't care. That's what I think he is, and it is warranted.

And you can take your introspection thread and...