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[one...two...tree 2,762]

The Fred Vs. Hillary stuff is getting a little childish IMO. There's what... a year to go before the election...?

Ah, let them have at it. Even before Fred and Hillary, people here would take certain subjects into ad infinitum. It's not like anyone's forcing us to be hanging out in OT here on VJ anyway and most of us, I'd venture to say, probably have other more pressing matters...but when it comes to wasting time, it's sure damn fun to hang out here.

[Cassie 8]

The Fred Vs. Hillary stuff is getting a little childish IMO. There's what... a year to go before the election...?

Ah, let them have at it. Even before Fred and Hillary, people here would take certain subjects into ad infinitum. It's not like anyone's forcing us to be hanging out in OT here on VJ anyway and most of us, I'd venture to say, probably have other more pressing matters...but when it comes to wasting time, it's sure damn fun to hang out here.

I hear ya, just having fun with the topic. I just find the whole "let's talk about this starting 2 years before the actual election" idea crazy.

[trailmix 77]

I hear ya, just having fun with the topic. I just find the whole "let's talk about this starting 2 years before the actual election" idea crazy.

Could it be that two people - are not really supporters of who they purport to be supporting (yes purport and support - nice combo - but anyway)

That in fact they perpetually contribute to threads about Fred and Hillary so that by the time the election rolls around we will be so sick of hearing about them that in fact we won't vote for either.

I like Hillary - I find I am getting tired of seeing her name - it's working.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I just want to commend Gary for the banners on his sig that link Hillary with the Soviet Union's hammer and sickle symbol. The man who was outraged for a video that someone submitted to MoveOn.org which depicted Bush as Hitler-like. I don't care what candidate you support or don't support, they are both either done with tongue-in-cheek or they're both outrageous...can't be selective about it.

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The Republican National Committee seems to be feeling a bit threatened by Moveon.org's Bush in 30 Seconds contest, and demands that the organization apologize for submissions to their contest comparing Bush to Hitler. I saw the ad in question in the preliminary voting and gave it a low rating, but not because the comparison is inappropriate. Rather, I ranked it low because I thought the ad was heavy-handed and that it would not convince anyone who might be considering voting for Bush.

Comparing a politician you disagree with to Hitler is a cliche of letter-to-the-editor writing, not some totally beyond-the-pale bit of hate speech which the RNC would like us to see it as. As I remarked above, the main problem with such comparisons is that they are so common as to be unconvincing. This issue has come up before. The last time objections to Bush-Hitler comparisons impinged on my consciousness, I did some thinking about the matter and made some comparisons of my own. It seems to me that the right's determination to kill this meme arises from insecurity. It would be helpful to their cause if the Bush administration would stop reusing Nazi operation names. The RNC would be less outraged if there were no comparisons to be made.

But OK, I guess the RNC wants contrasts between Bush and Hitler, not comparisons. So lets oblige them: Hitler probably had syphilis, whereas Bush probably doesn't. Hitler killed millions. Bush hasn't. (Shall we insert a Bushian yet?) Hitler was a much better public speaker. Shall we continue?

http://www.kathryncramer.com/wblog/archives/000407.html

Edited September 10, 2007 by Mister Fancypants

[chri'stina 190]

Steven, I think you now owe Cassie like $100 for posting an article about politics in this thread! j/k

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

I like Hillary - I find I am getting tired of seeing her name - it's working.

it's a republican plot

[no name 1]

I just want to commend Gary for the banners on his sig that link Hillary with the Soviet Union's hammer and sickle symbol. The man who was outraged for a video that someone submitted to MoveOn.org which depicted Bush as Hitler-like. I don't care what candidate you support or don't support, they are both either done with tongue-in-cheek or they're both outrageous...can't be selective about it.

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The Republican National Committee seems to be feeling a bit threatened by Moveon.org's Bush in 30 Seconds contest, and demands that the organization apologize for submissions to their contest comparing Bush to Hitler. I saw the ad in question in the preliminary voting and gave it a low rating, but not because the comparison is inappropriate. Rather, I ranked it low because I thought the ad was heavy-handed and that it would not convince anyone who might be considering voting for Bush.

Comparing a politician you disagree with to Hitler is a cliche of letter-to-the-editor writing, not some totally beyond-the-pale bit of hate speech which the RNC would like us to see it as. As I remarked above, the main problem with such comparisons is that they are so common as to be unconvincing. This issue has come up before. The last time objections to Bush-Hitler comparisons impinged on my consciousness, I did some thinking about the matter and made some comparisons of my own. It seems to me that the right's determination to kill this meme arises from insecurity. It would be helpful to their cause if the Bush administration would stop reusing Nazi operation names. The RNC would be less outraged if there were no comparisons to be made.

But OK, I guess the RNC wants contrasts between Bush and Hitler, not comparisons. So lets oblige them: Hitler probably had syphilis, whereas Bush probably doesn't. Hitler killed millions. Bush hasn't. (Shall we insert a Bushian yet?) Hitler was a much better public speaker. Shall we continue?

http://www.kathryncramer.com/wblog/archives/000407.html

Amen Steven. Pot, kettle, all that.

[Cassie 8]

Steven, I think you now owe Cassie like $100 for posting an article about politics in this thread! j/k

:whistle:

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Steven, I think you now owe Cassie like $100 for posting an article about politics in this thread! j/k

:whistle:

Cassie, do you accept coupons?

[almaty 19]

how about food stamps?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

how about food stamps?

Welfare queen.

[Cassie 8]

Cash, baby, cold hard cash!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Cash, baby, cold hard cash!

How about indentured servant?

[chri'stina 190]

Cash, baby, cold hard cash!

How about indentured servant?

Can someone with fancy pants lower themselves to be a servant?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Cash, baby, cold hard cash!

How about indentured servant?

Can someone with fancy pants lower themselves to be a servant?

It would be the ultimate act of humility, sister.