Islam: a Plan for World Domination?

[Nessa 23]

Anymuslim: Gee, Evilmuslim, what do you want to do tonight?

Evilmuslim: The same thing we do every night, anymuslim, try to take over the world!

[smoke20 0]

Take South Korea for example. The US 'liberated' that country decades ago - and still maintains strong political ties with it. Nevertheless there is a notable degree of resentment towards the US among its citizenry.

Perhaps we should pull all of our troops out of there, and leave them to fend for themselves when North Korea decides to take over

I found that it was mostly the younger generation of ignorant Korean college kids that resents the US. The old timers that experienced the Korean War have a much better opinion of the US than the new generation does.

Hence why the US needs to stop wasting their time, money and lives on other nations. To be honest ###### them. No one appreciates the US anymore. Almost like knowing someone who has no respect for you. No matter what you do for them or give them; they will still criticize you and abuse your generosity. Time the US realizes that.

I wonder why that is...

Something to do with the political climate between 2000 and the present.

i think it goes back quite a bit further than 2000

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Take South Korea for example. The US 'liberated' that country decades ago - and still maintains strong political ties with it. Nevertheless there is a notable degree of resentment towards the US among its citizenry.

Perhaps we should pull all of our troops out of there, and leave them to fend for themselves when North Korea decides to take over

I found that it was mostly the younger generation of ignorant Korean college kids that resents the US. The old timers that experienced the Korean War have a much better opinion of the US than the new generation does.

Hence why the US needs to stop wasting their time, money and lives on other nations. To be honest ###### them. No one appreciates the US anymore. Almost like knowing someone who has no respect for you. No matter what you do for them or give them; they will still criticize you and abuse your generosity. Time the US realizes that.

I wonder why that is...

Something to do with the political climate between 2000 and the present.

still brother infidel post rings true..we need to stay out of other countries and other countries business

I agree as far as unilateral military engagements go.

i think it goes back quite a bit further than 2000

It does. But 2000 IMO marks the year that things took a turn for the worse.

[Heracles 417]

Take South Korea for example. The US 'liberated' that country decades ago - and still maintains strong political ties with it. Nevertheless there is a notable degree of resentment towards the US among its citizenry.

Perhaps we should pull all of our troops out of there, and leave them to fend for themselves when North Korea decides to take over

I found that it was mostly the younger generation of ignorant Korean college kids that resents the US. The old timers that experienced the Korean War have a much better opinion of the US than the new generation does.

Hence why the US needs to stop wasting their time, money and lives on other nations. To be honest ###### them. No one appreciates the US anymore. Almost like knowing someone who has no respect for you. No matter what you do for them or give them; they will still criticize you and abuse your generosity. Time the US realizes that.

I wonder why that is...

Something to do with the political climate between 2000 and the present.

i think it goes back quite a bit further than 2000

Exactly.

There are so many movies out there that paint a negative image against the US government, CIA, US corporations etc. The movies and TV shows are all some have to form an opinion on the US. Therefore many overseas simply see this nation as a haven for corrupt, violent individuals and gangsters. Even prior to 2000, I found that the many overseas, in a number of countries, had a deep dislike of America.

Take Fahrenheit 9/11 for example. While some here view this is a lefty taking a jab at GWB, many overseas saw it as more proof of America's corruption. I remember leaving a movie theater down under to see people cheer at points where Michael Moore basically criticized America. They did not see it as the left vs the right; which was the movies intention. Many actually said out loud after the movie, "###### Americans are dumb c###s". My wife who was in AUS for the first time was shocked to hear it first hand. While I agree GWB has not helped the situation at all; the negative feelings towards the US have been here for a while.

Which is why I say the US should start saying ###### off to a number of countries and people out there..

Edited September 10, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Take South Korea for example. The US 'liberated' that country decades ago - and still maintains strong political ties with it. Nevertheless there is a notable degree of resentment towards the US among its citizenry.

Perhaps we should pull all of our troops out of there, and leave them to fend for themselves when North Korea decides to take over

I found that it was mostly the younger generation of ignorant Korean college kids that resents the US. The old timers that experienced the Korean War have a much better opinion of the US than the new generation does.

Hence why the US needs to stop wasting their time, money and lives on other nations. To be honest ###### them. No one appreciates the US anymore. Almost like knowing someone who has no respect for you. No matter what you do for them or give them; they will still criticize you and abuse your generosity. Time the US realizes that.

I wonder why that is...

Something to do with the political climate between 2000 and the present.

i think it goes back quite a bit further than 2000

Exactly.

There are so many movies out there that paint a negative image against the US government, CIA, US corporations etc. The movies and TV shows are all some have to form an opinion on the US. Therefore many overseas simply see this nation as a haven for corrupt, violent individuals and gangsters. Even prior to 2000, I found that the many overseas, in a number of countries, had a deep dislike of America.

Take Fahrenheit 9/11 for example. While some here view this is a lefty taking a jab at GWB, many overseas saw it as more proof of America's corruption. I remember leaving a movie theater down under to see people cheer at points where Michael Moore basically criticized America. They did not see it as the left vs the right; which was the movies intention. Many actually said out loud after the movie, "###### Americans are dumb c###s". My wife who was in AUS for the first time was shocked to hear it first hand. While I agree GWB has not helped the situation at all; the negative feelings towards the US have been here for a while.

Which is why I say the US should start saying ###### off to a number of countries and people out there..

Fahrenheit 9/11 was post 2000.

I think he mean't 'before'. Like Vietnam...

[Caladan 19]

I suspect that dislike of America has more to do with our foreign policy than our films and music (which are generally pretty popular.)

[Heracles 417]

I suspect that dislike of America has more to do with our foreign policy than our films and music (which are generally pretty popular.)

There are a lot of people who watch these films overseas who form an opinion of America based on these films.

The best foreign policy is the one many nations, like Canada, take. Basically live under the radar so someone else takes the flak. Then you look like the good peaceful guy.

[Logres 0]

The best foreign policy is the one many nations, like Canada, take. Basically live under the radar so someone else takes the flak. Then you look like the good peaceful guy.

Agreed.

One of my countrymen said famously something along those lines too:

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Winston Churchill

Edited September 10, 2007 by Logres

[mawilson 2,133]

The best foreign policy is the one many nations, like Canada, take. Basically live under the radar so someone else takes the flak. Then you look like the good peaceful guy.

Agreed.

One of my countrymen said famously something along those lines too:

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Winston Churchill

How can you agree with something and then cite a quote to the contrary?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I suspect that dislike of America has more to do with our foreign policy than our films and music (which are generally pretty popular.)

There are a lot of people who watch these films overseas who form an opinion of America based on these films.

Some do no doubt, but I think a lot of it is merely a reaction to the President rather than America in general. Of course - noone said that there aren't ignorant people the world over. That said - those films, like Fahrenheit 9/11 play off of feelings that people in the US are having too. In that regard I don't see how you can point the finger at Michael Moore for this. Seems to me the finger of blame should be on the Govt for what they've done, rather than on a film director for how he has presented it.

[Logres 0]

The best foreign policy is the one many nations, like Canada, take. Basically live under the radar so someone else takes the flak. Then you look like the good peaceful guy.

Agreed.

One of my countrymen said famously something along those lines too:

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Winston Churchill

How can you agree with something and then cite a quote to the contrary?

I am not sure I did, but I'm sure that my point could have been more explicit. I don't think that when Boo-Yah says 'best foreign policy' he means the one he desires the US to take - I think the implication is that other countries tend to wait in the wings while the US makes itself unpopular by acting as Devil's advocate.

[Heracles 417]

The best foreign policy is the one many nations, like Canada, take. Basically live under the radar so someone else takes the flak. Then you look like the good peaceful guy.

Agreed.

One of my countrymen said famously something along those lines too:

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Winston Churchill

How can you agree with something and then cite a quote to the contrary?

I am not sure I did, but I'm sure that my point could have been more explicit. I don't think that when Boo-Yah says 'best foreign policy' he means the one he desires the US to take - I think the implication is that other countries tend to wait in the wings while the US makes itself unpopular by acting as Devil's advocate.

yes exactly. The US is now the scapegoat of the world's problems. Rather than continuing to be so, the US government should stand up and say enough is enough.

[smoke20 0]

IMO - much of the resentment towards the US & UK is driven by envy. we have the most (better living standards, money, chance of a better future, etc.) is human nature for those w/o to be resentful & envious. many countries seem to have a "what have you done for us latley" attitude towards us. we are the first to get the blame for everything, but when they need help......who do they hold their hands out towards? so i'm w/ Boo-Yah....###### em. & as much as we may not like or agree w/ our foreign policies...they are designed & in place to protect us & our way of life.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Is the resentment really that hard to understand though? We’re not really talking about the 3rd world either – public opinion even in the developed world has turned against this Govt specifically since 9/11 and their response to it. I wouldn’t say that’s about envying people’s living standards as it is about fundamentally disagreeing with how the US conducts its business overseas.

As to ‘protecting our interests and way of life’ – does anyone really believe that anymore, given the types of people we consistently elect to high office? They might be out for their interests, which sometimes coincide with ours - but that isn't really the same.

Edited September 10, 2007 by Number 6

[joelunchbox 0]

Is the resentment really that hard to understand though? We’re not really talking about the 3rd world either – public opinion even in the developed world has turned against this Govt specifically since 9/11 and their response to it. I wouldn’t say that’s about envying people’s living standards as it is about fundamentally disagreeing with how the US conducts its business overseas.

As to ‘protecting our interests and way of life’ – does anyone really believe that anymore, given the types of people we consistently elect to high office? They might be out for their interests, which sometimes coincide with ours - but that isn't really the same.

Does the term "UNILATERAL" ring a bell with anyone? It means we don't give a **** what you think, how it affects you, as long as it makes someone rich over here, we are going to do it.

Guess who is getting rich in the US?