Islam: a Plan for World Domination?

[almaty 19]

Is there a Muslim plan to take over the world?

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... for the past 60 or so years the Muslim Brotherhood, increasingly backed by Saudi Arabia and many other Muslim countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc., has tried to turn Muslim countries into Islamic states governed by Sharia law.

The second phase of this plan, carried out concurrently to the first, is to Islamise Christians living in Muslim countries. This is happening wherever there are radical Muslims, in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Iraq . . . . We saw this happen in Iraq in the past year, where some neighbourhoods in Baghdad have become micro-caliphates in which Christians are told to convert to Islam or pay the Jizya (protection money), and accept second-class status.

The third phase is the conversion of Europe (and for Muslims Europe symbolises Christianity). This is carried out first and foremost by working with young, European-born Muslims through imams teaching radical ideologies in mosques, prisons, bookstores. The next step is propaganda through Tabligh, a method that evolved in Pakistan and has spread to Europe. It is a mystical, Sufi-like missionary movement that has converted tens of thousands of Europeans.

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... Muslims in Europe want to become European Muslims but for this to happen European society must recognise Muslims and give them the necessary space to express ourselves.

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... since Europe no longer has a soul but only technology, Islam is the only religion that can fill the void.

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Among Muslim scholars these issues are the subject of heated debates. Some argue that Europe must be converted and that the means are available. Since it has become pagan it must be fought and converted. In this context the de-Christianisation of the West is seen as the first step towards conversion to Islam.

Thanks to Saudi Arabia and its ideological and financial backing, the Wahhabi ideology and the Muslim Brotherhood are spreading everywhere, in newspapers, on TV, in the curriculum used in imam training schools; through funds to build mosques and Islamic centres.

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By Samir Khalid

Asia News

Samir Khalid Samir SJ is a priest and professor of Oriental Studies at St. Joseph's Seminary in Lebanon.

http://www.aina.org/news/20070907101313.htm

"elders iof Zion" was first..with the Jewish wanting to take over the world and now this sh!t..same stuff..bias..propaganda against a people and religion

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

This is a very serious problem for Europe. The basic problem is this: the US wisely restricts its immigration and because of its less generous welfare benefits the Muslims who move to the US tend to be hard working citizens who want to integrate into the American society. The Muslims who are moving to Europe move there because of Europe's generous welfare benefits and thus Europe gets the worst immigrants from the whole Middle East, i.e. criminals, troublemakers and bums. Because of our high minimum wage laws and strict working regulations the immigrants can't even integrate even if they would like too. They simply can't get a job. This means that they all end up in welfare and are pushed into these slums. In these slums without work, living as second class citizens, they become radicalized. They never learn the native languages of their respective countries, they never integrate and they end up causing trouble and crime. The situation is the worst in France and Sweden where there are de facto small city states (such as current Andorra, San Marino, Holy See or Monaco etc. are) within the country where Sharia law is practiced and where the police have no authority - they won't even step into these areas without armoured cars. The problems are getting rather large in Belgium, the Netherlands, the UK and Norway as well.

Our legal systems are incapable of dealing with this situation. For example, in the Finnish legal system the maximum penalty for any crime (including murder) is 14 years in jail. If you conduct the crime the first time (like murder) you can only get 5 years in jail. Many first time rapists just get a fine and are released under parole. This criminal law system seems very lax on American standards, but it works well for the general Finnish population. After all, we have one of the lowest crime rates in the whole world (and the second most guns after the Americans for that matter). These penalties how ever work poorly for crimes committed by immigrants. My example will make this clear. One year ago (in a famous court case) three Somali immigrants Michael Andrew Lofo, Gak Willyang Mogdam and Muawia Abuzaid Tutu Atiya got 4, 4 respectively 2 years in prison for a crime called "cruel rape". These three men had captured a drunken 30 year old woman, taken her into their apartment, raped her and then cut her perineum open with scissors. The court could at best give these men 5 years in jail but they chose to give less because these men defended their act saying that it's "part of the African culture". The following day the major of Oulu (the city where this crime took place) spoke that this crime shouldn't cause any hatred towards immigrants, since they are just "people who's ways are different from our own" (the major had all the right to be worried about hate crimes for that matter, since Finland has the most hate crimes per capita against immigrants in the western world even if Finland has the least amount of immigrants percentage vice in the whole western world). Often the Helsinki courts have refused to convict African immigrants to jail for beating their wives and children with e.g. baseball bats on the basis that this is "a part of the Africa culture". The problem is that the immigrants have learned to use this weakness as a seemingly excuse for any crime they commit and Finns fall for it. When they get these penalties with few years in prison they just laugh them off. I would laugh at this all too, if it wouldn’t be so extremely sad and such a worrisome development.

The general problem of Europe is that the birth rates for original Europeans are around one child per woman, while the rates of these immigrants tend to be four children per woman. This means that the European original population halves every generation while the immigration population doubles (at the same time more immigrants come in so it at least triples). This means that most parts of Europe have turned into de facto Islamic nations by around 2030. The only nations in Old Europe that will likely escaping this fate seem to be Finland, Ireland and Iceland, since these three countries have rather strict immigration laws and they are in outlying parts of the map in general. Before this point the European welfare states won't any longer be sustainable, meaning that welfare benefits will be reduced and millions of people will fall of a broken welfare system. The result is likely going to be very ugly and I suspect that we may see some old fashioned Hobbesian anarchy taking place, since in many countries there is a mixed up immigrant population without any commonly spoken langue.

nice post

[Saddle Bronc 124]

...Before this point the European welfare states won't any longer be sustainable, meaning that welfare benefits will be reduced and millions of people will fall of a broken welfare system....

A "welfare-state" by definition is broken and unsustainable--from day 0, not some future point.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Why do I even bother?

Every country has their extremists or "terrorists" however you want to define it even if it's more politically correct to say "fractions of the population". The USA has the KKK, the bloods, the crips, the christian coalitions all with their own "ahem" agendas/demands. Anyone seen the documentary "Jesus Camp"?

The same thing being said in this forum was not only said some thousand years ago but has been said about the jews and zionist propoganda in the early 1910's with the migration to Jeruselum in Palistine.

All Muslims don't belong to the Muslim Brotherhood, or Hamas, or the PLO. The majority of the muslims are peaceful and have said on occasion they don't recognize these "terrosits" as real muslims.

So what do we propose to the solution for these demands of world dominance vs. those that don't make their demands as public but rather manuver in the name of capitalism and business venture? Money talks bs walks.

Can we identify each one of them, catch them, and stop them? That would be like Bush going after gangs members, the KKK, or even Christians in America, ect... Like McCarthy went after communists. It ridiculous he is even trying to go after a sub-group without a country like chasing a gang with no borders. Instead of focusing on the corporate tyranny in our homeland. I'd like to see us go for the injustices being done to humanity by the corporations who fleece the nations.

But whatever. Persecution of religions is a nice distraction and has been going on for thousands of centuries so why stop now and live in world peace right?

Anyways... I hope you see the point.

Edited September 9, 2007 by OlivianWaleed

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Why do I even bother?

Every country has their extremists or "terrorists" however you want to define it even if it's more politically correct to say "fractions of the population". The USA has the KKK, the bloods, the crips, the christian coalitions all with their own "ahem" agendas/demands. Anyone seen the documentary "Jesus Camp"?

The same thing being said in this forum was not only said some thousand years ago but has been said about the jews and zionist propoganda in the early 1910's with the migration to Jeruselum in Palistine.

All Muslims don't belong to the Muslim Brotherhood, or Hamas, or the PLO. The majority of the muslims are peaceful and have said on occasion they don't recognize these "terrosits" as real muslims.

So what do we propose to the solution for these demands of world dominance vs. those that don't make their demands as public but rather manuver in the name of capitalism and business venture? Money talks bs walks.

Can we identify each one of them, catch them, and stop them? That would be like Bush going after gangs members, the KKK, or even Christians in America, ect... Like McCarthy went after communists. It ridiculous he is even trying to go after a sub-group without a country like chasing a gang with no borders. Instead of focusing on the corporate tyranny in our homeland. I'd like to see us go for the injustices being done to humanity by the corporations who fleece the nations.

But whatever. Persecution of religions is a nice distraction and has been going on for thousands of centuries so why stop now and live in world peace right?

Anyways... I hope you see the point.

But the Islamic terrorists kill more people is a day than the rest of the extremists you mentioned in a year.

Why do I bother?

[PlatyPius 5]

So, what is really the difference between Sharia Law and Xian Law? They both want to impose religious laws upon ALL citizens.....

*rolls eyes*

Is that the most intelligent response you could come up with? Heaven forbid I make an informed and valid comparison....

Do you disagree that certain Christian groups - just like certain Muslim groups - want to have laws that are based on/reflect their own religious views?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Why do I even bother?

Every country has their extremists or "terrorists" however you want to define it even if it's more politically correct to say "fractions of the population". The USA has the KKK, the bloods, the crips, the christian coalitions all with their own "ahem" agendas/demands. Anyone seen the documentary "Jesus Camp"?

The same thing being said in this forum was not only said some thousand years ago but has been said about the jews and zionist propoganda in the early 1910's with the migration to Jeruselum in Palistine.

All Muslims don't belong to the Muslim Brotherhood, or Hamas, or the PLO. The majority of the muslims are peaceful and have said on occasion they don't recognize these "terrosits" as real muslims.

So what do we propose to the solution for these demands of world dominance vs. those that don't make their demands as public but rather manuver in the name of capitalism and business venture? Money talks bs walks.

Can we identify each one of them, catch them, and stop them? That would be like Bush going after gangs members, the KKK, or even Christians in America, ect... Like McCarthy went after communists. It ridiculous he is even trying to go after a sub-group without a country like chasing a gang with no borders. Instead of focusing on the corporate tyranny in our homeland. I'd like to see us go for the injustices being done to humanity by the corporations who fleece the nations.

But whatever. Persecution of religions is a nice distraction and has been going on for thousands of centuries so why stop now and live in world peace right?

Anyways... I hope you see the point.

But the Islamic terrorists kill more people is a day than the rest of the extremists you mentioned in a year.

Why do I bother?

Cars accidents kill more people in a week then the terrorists killed on 9/11. So why not stop cars?

For that matter:

Cig. corprations kill more people then terrorists.

Alcohol kills more people then terrorists.

Is anyone stoping the corporate agenda? Corporations lobby to make laws that kill more people than all these religious organizations. The difference being?

Edited September 9, 2007 by OlivianWaleed

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The difference being?

People have a choice to smoke and/or drink. They are aware of the risks involved. No, I don't smoke. But I do like my beer, thank you very much. A nice whiskey on the rocks from time to time pleases me as well. It's not like anyone is holding a gun to my head or a sword to my throat making me consume the beer or whiskey. If that kills me, then I killed myself with it. By my own free choice. That's the essential difference.

You see, the people that died at hands of those fcukers on 9/11 didn't exactly choose to be killed that day.

Car accidents, on the other hand, are just that: accidents. 9/11 wasn't an accident, in case you haven't gotten the memo yet.

But sure, why bother?

Edited September 9, 2007 by Mr. Big Dog

[Jamie76 0]

Ahh, so we should stop fighting terrorist and focus on stopping those dangerous cars. That's pretty lame.

Will it be ok if we go back to trying to stop them after they get their hands on a nuke and they use it?

[mRx 16]

Why do I even bother?

Every country has their extremists or "terrorists" however you want to define it even if it's more politically correct to say "fractions of the population". The USA has the KKK, the bloods, the crips, the christian coalitions all with their own "ahem" agendas/demands. Anyone seen the documentary "Jesus Camp"?

The same thing being said in this forum was not only said some thousand years ago but has been said about the jews and zionist propoganda in the early 1910's with the migration to Jeruselum in Palistine.

All Muslims don't belong to the Muslim Brotherhood, or Hamas, or the PLO. The majority of the muslims are peaceful and have said on occasion they don't recognize these "terrosits" as real muslims.

So what do we propose to the solution for these demands of world dominance vs. those that don't make their demands as public but rather manuver in the name of capitalism and business venture? Money talks bs walks.

Can we identify each one of them, catch them, and stop them? That would be like Bush going after gangs members, the KKK, or even Christians in America, ect... Like McCarthy went after communists. It ridiculous he is even trying to go after a sub-group without a country like chasing a gang with no borders. Instead of focusing on the corporate tyranny in our homeland. I'd like to see us go for the injustices being done to humanity by the corporations who fleece the nations.

But whatever. Persecution of religions is a nice distraction and has been going on for thousands of centuries so why stop now and live in world peace right?

Anyways... I hope you see the point.

But the Islamic terrorists kill more people is a day than the rest of the extremists you mentioned in a year.

Why do I bother?

Cars accidents kill more people in a week then the terrorists killed on 9/11. So why not stop cars?

For that matter:

Cig. corprations kill more people then terrorists.

Alcohol kills more people then terrorists.

Is anyone stoping the corporate agenda? Corporations lobby to make laws that kill more people than all these religious organizations. The difference being?

If you saw a small Iraqi child struggling to breathe because shrapnel, (a steel door knob), is lodged in her rib cage due to a suicide car bombing..... then perhaps you would realize what the difference is.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

If they get their hands on a nuke and set it off in an American city by accident, will the resulting deaths be more along the lines of an auto accident or a terror attack?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

The difference being?

People have a choice to smoke and/or drink. They are aware of the risks involved. No, I don't smoke. But I do like my beer, thank you very much. A nice whiskey on the rocks from time to time pleases me as well. It's not like anyone is holding a gun to my head or a sword to my throat making me consume the beer or whiskey. If that kills me, then I killed myself with it. By my own free choice. That's the essential difference.

You see, the people that died at hands of those fcukers on 9/11 didn't exactly choose to be killed that day.

Car accidents, on the other hand, are just that: accidents. 9/11 wasn't an accident, in case you haven't gotten the memo yet.

But sure, why bother?

Do we have choices? When we're being unindated with commercial advertisments from what to wear, what to eat, who to date, who to be friends with, what sites to surf, WHAT CARS TO DRIVE, ec Are we not being programmed? Does someone with insurance have a choice when it comes to being denied for a medical procedure they truely need? Anyone seen the documentary "Sicko"? For that matter don't the people of say "europe" have the choice not to listen to the demands of this fraction. What war is really being waged? The real one being waged on the unaware American people is by the corporations. Just like in the book "Fast Food Nation" we're the cattle being lead to the slaughter and when someone tries to free us we don't know any better.

[Jamie76 0]

Im not sure how anyone can demean those that have died in a terrorist attack (any terrorist attack) by comparing their deaths to those that have died in accidents or from smoking.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Im not sure how anyone can demean those that have died in a terrorist attack (any terrorist attack) by comparing their deaths to those that have died in accidents or from smoking.

Completely out of context.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Do we have choices? When we're being unindated with commercial advertisments from what to wear, what to eat, who to date, who to be friends with, what sites to surf, WHAT CARS TO DRIVE, ec Are we not being programmed?

Yes, we have choices. Not all of us are sheep.