Islam: a Plan for World Domination?

[Dan J 277]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

[mRx 16]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Well, its a stupid question.

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

is that really the best you can come back with?

[Scott & Lai 12]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Would you do your job for free? No? Mercenary!!

[Dan J 277]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Would you do your job for free? No? Mercenary!!

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

Dan, what would be your definition of a true soldier vs. a mercenary?

Edited September 11, 2007 by Mister Fancypants

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Would you do your job for free? No? Mercenary!!

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

perhaps you missed my earlier post, and matt's, about the low pay

[Jamie76 0]

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Would you do your job for free? No? Mercenary!!

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

Last time I checked, many soldiers do not join the military for the pay. I also don't think they can quit any time they want for a better paying job. Fire you? Well maybe in the rare instance they will court marshall you but probably doesn't happen all too often. Might get knocked down a rank, but you aren't getting fired.

[Dan J 277]

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

Dan, what would be your definition of a true soldier vs. a mercenary?

A lot of people go into the armed forces less to serve the country, and more for personal financial gain of some kind. While the job itself may not pay much, there are a lot of benefits that do come with being part of the armed forces. If you asked someone why they joined the army, you will more likely here I wanted a way to pay for collage or some wanted some of the benefits that come with serving.

In my opinion, a soldier is someone who would serve regardless of the benefits. A Mercenary is someone who serves solely for the benefits.

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soliders in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic espeically in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim alligence to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Would you do your job for free? No? Mercenary!!

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

Last time I checked, many soldiers do not join the military for the pay. I also don't think they can quit any time they want for a better paying job. Fire you? Well maybe in the rare instance they will court marshall you but probably doesn't happen all too often. Might get knocked down a rank, but you aren't getting fired.

Some do, but there are many that also do it for the benefits, like getting collage paid for.

[GaryC 7]

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

Dan, what would be your definition of a true soldier vs. a mercenary?

A lot of people go into the armed forces less to serve the country, and more for personal financial gain of some kind. While the job itself may not pay much, there are a lot of benefits that do come with being part of the armed forces. If you asked someone why they joined the army, you will more likely here I wanted a way to pay for collage or some wanted some of the benefits that come with serving.

In my opinion, a soldier is someone who would serve regardless of the benefits. A Mercenary is someone who serves solely for the benefits.

While I really don't like to argue against Matt, since he is after all in a place where I wouldn't dare to go even if forced by a gun, I would still like to point out the other side of the coin. First of all, all soldiers in the US army are currently mercenaries. They get paid a load of tax free money to kill. While I'm a complete wuss myself, I would consider such a job unethical. If those soldiers wouldn't go there for free, they would go there because they would be drafted to go there. Draft is temporary slavery. Talk is cheap yes, but all those who try to engage in it are silenced and ridiculed as being anti-American or unpatriotic especially in the US.

having been there and done that, i can assure you that no one in the military is getting rich. there are better ways to make money than be, as you call it "a mercenary.'"

tax free money to kill? no, that's a bonus for being there and working 16+ hour days. also note that mercenaries don't claim allegiance to any particular country, so your word usage might be refined a bit.

The question is, would you do it for free?

Would you do your job for free? No? Mercenary!!

I think you trying to use Mercenary as some kind of comeback. But most people are Mercenaries with their jobs. There is no such thing as job loyalty in the free market. There used to be to some extent, but generally you work for the company that will pay you the most. And a company can fire you for just about any reason.

Last time I checked, many soldiers do not join the military for the pay. I also don't think they can quit any time they want for a better paying job. Fire you? Well maybe in the rare instance they will court Marshall you but probably doesn't happen all too often. Might get knocked down a rank, but you aren't getting fired.

Some do, but there are many that also do it for the benefits, like getting collage paid for.

Your going to have more than one vet disagree with you there. Myself included.

[Dan J 277]

Maybe this DOD report will change your mind: http://www.dod.mil/execsec/adr2000/appf.html

Regardless of their propensity for military service, YATS respondents are asked to provide, in their own words, reasons for joining and not joining the military. The most frequently mentioned reasons for joining are money for college, job training and/or experience, duty to country, pay, travel, and self-discipline.

Most young men and women see postsecondary education as the key to prosperity and job security in America. The percent of youth going to college is increasing, and YATS results show that young people are aware that the military offers money for a college education. Educational funding is the most frequently cited reason for enlisting. In 1999, 33 percent of men and 39 percent of women identified money for college as a reason for joining; comparable 1991 figures were 24 percent of men and 31 percent of women. Many young people have the will and the talent for college, but lack the funds. The Montgomery GI Bill, the Army/Navy/ Marine Corps College Funds, the Service academies, and Reserve Officer Training Corps scholarship programs provide the Services with an effective means of attracting talented young men and women to the military and provide these youth the means to gain a college education.

For many non-college bound youth, military service offers an opportunity for job experience and specialized training. In 1999, job training and experience were listed as the second most frequent reason for joining the military-behind money for college. Twenty-four percent of men and 17 percent of women mentioned job training and experience as a reason for entering service. Other reasons for joining were mentioned much less frequently. Pay was mentioned by 13 percent of men and 11 percent of women; duty to country was mentioned by 12 percent of men and 9 percent of women; travel by 9 percent of men and 8 percent of women; and discipline by 6 percent of men and 4 percent of women. The percentages of men and women mentioning job training, pay, duty to country, travel, and discipline as reasons for joining have not changed significantly in the past few years.

[almaty 19]

bullshit...to risk your life..is to do it for your friends...fellow soldier..marines..airman or sailor and country not for $$..i see you have no clue...and have never been in the service...or had a family member in harm's way...

[Dan J 277]

bullshit...to risk your life..is to do it for your friends...fellow soldier..marines..airman or sailor and country not for $$..i see you have no clue...and have never been in the service...or had a family member in harm's way...

Your assuming everyone has the same motivation as you. But thats simply not the case. I have a brother in the service, but he didn't join out of duty for the country. He wanted money for collage.

Everyone has a price, where they would be willing to risk their life to get it. Commercial fishing is one of the most dangerous jobs but yet people still do it.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The Latin Kings actively encourage their "soldiers" to join up to be real soldiers so they can learn combat skills in Iraq and bring some of those "skills" back to the streets of LA, Chicago and the Bronx.

You're right, there are as many different motivations as there are people.

[almaty 19]

true, but there are many motives in life for anything...the majority is what i write about.///