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Is there a Muslim plan to take over the world?

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... for the past 60 or so years the Muslim Brotherhood, increasingly backed by Saudi Arabia and many other Muslim countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc., has tried to turn Muslim countries into Islamic states governed by Sharia law.

The second phase of this plan, carried out concurrently to the first, is to Islamise Christians living in Muslim countries. This is happening wherever there are radical Muslims, in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Iraq . . . . We saw this happen in Iraq in the past year, where some neighbourhoods in Baghdad have become micro-caliphates in which Christians are told to convert to Islam or pay the Jizya (protection money), and accept second-class status.

The third phase is the conversion of Europe (and for Muslims Europe symbolises Christianity). This is carried out first and foremost by working with young, European-born Muslims through imams teaching radical ideologies in mosques, prisons, bookstores. The next step is propaganda through Tabligh, a method that evolved in Pakistan and has spread to Europe. It is a mystical, Sufi-like missionary movement that has converted tens of thousands of Europeans.

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... Muslims in Europe want to become European Muslims but for this to happen European society must recognise Muslims and give them the necessary space to express ourselves.

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... since Europe no longer has a soul but only technology, Islam is the only religion that can fill the void.

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Among Muslim scholars these issues are the subject of heated debates. Some argue that Europe must be converted and that the means are available. Since it has become pagan it must be fought and converted. In this context the de-Christianisation of the West is seen as the first step towards conversion to Islam.

Thanks to Saudi Arabia and its ideological and financial backing, the Wahhabi ideology and the Muslim Brotherhood are spreading everywhere, in newspapers, on TV, in the curriculum used in imam training schools; through funds to build mosques and Islamic centres.

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By Samir Khalid

Asia News

Samir Khalid Samir SJ is a priest and professor of Oriental Studies at St. Joseph's Seminary in Lebanon.

http://www.aina.org/news/20070907101313.htm

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Ah, the joys of organised religion. Faith isn't dangerous but religion can be. I don't care what hat you wear (read what organised religion you belong to) manipulating vast groups of people is wrong and very sinister.

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Ah, the joys of organised religion. Faith isn't dangerous but religion can be. I don't care what hat you wear (read what organised religion you belong to) manipulating vast groups of people is wrong and very sinister.

Not religion per se...just Fundamentalism and the belief in absolutes (no one else is allowed to believe differently)...it's sort of reactionary to Relativism.

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The Muslim Brotherhood and Islamic law in Europe

By Lorenzo Vidino

Over the last few days various contributors to the CT Blog have debated the real aims of the Muslim Brotherhood, especially in the West. Another indication of what the Ikhwan really want came just a few days ago from Sweden, where the country’s largest Muslim organization, the Brotherhood-linked Sveriges Muslimska Förbund (SMF), published a serious of demands addressed to all Swedish political parties (note the text-in Swedish only- “we demand,” not “we ask” or “we suggest”). Among its many demands, SMF stated Swedish Muslims should be given time off work for Friday prayers and Islamic holidays and that imams should approve all divorces between Muslim couples. Basically, SMF is asking for a partial introduction of sharia law in Sweden and the creation of a separate legal system for Swedish Muslim, something politicians from all sides of the Swedish political spectrum and moderate Muslim organizations have immediately condemned as completely unacceptable.

The Swedish case is hardly unique, but mirrors the demand of Brotherhood-linked organizations throughout Europe. For example, in Germany, the Islamische Gemeinschaft Deutschland (IGD), the country’s largest Muslim organization, has stated in its official publication Al Islam (here, page 48): “In the long run, Muslims cannot be satisfied with the acceptance of German family, estate, and trial law. … Muslims should aim at an agreement between the Muslims and the German state with the goal of a separate jurisdiction for Muslims.” In Great Britain, the UK Islamic Mission, has the stated goal of conducting a “continuous campaign for the establishment of Muslim family laws,” and to “establish Islamic social order in the United Kingdom in order to seek the pleasure of Allah.”

The Ikhwan organizations of Europe follow the teachings of Sheik Yusuf al Qaradawi, who outlined the methods that these organizations should follow in order to achieve their goal of establishing sharia in Europe in his book Priorities of the Islamic Movement in the Coming Phase. In spite of the European Brothers’ pro-integration public declarations, Qaradawi urges them: “Try to have your small society within the larger society…Try to have your own ‘Muslim ghetto.’” Qaradawi clearly sees the role that the Ikhwan organizations would play in creating these separated Muslim communities, running the mosques, schools, and civic organizations that will shape the daily life of the desired “Non-territorial Islamic States in Europe,” as Reuven Paz calls them. Qaradawi also suggests that sharia law should govern the relations among inhabitants of these Muslim islands, affirming that Muslim minorities “should also have amongst them their own ulema and men of religion to answer their questions when they ask them, guide them when they lose the way and reconcile them when they differ among themselves.”

Unlike the Salafis, the Brothers use a cunning double-talk when dealing with Western elites, advocating integration and dialogue. Yet the plans of the two movements, two different faces of the same coin, are eerily similar. Abu Qatada, al Qaeda’s “ambassador” to Europe was clear about the mujaheddins’ goal: “Muslims’ target is the West. We will split Rome open. The destruction must be carried out by sword. Those who will destroy Rome are already preparing the swords. Rome will not be conquered with the word but with the force of arms.” This is how Qaradawi sees the same issue: “Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and victor, after being expelled from it twice…I maintain that the conquest this time will not be by the sword but by preaching and ideology.” Different methods, but same goal. Are we sure the U.S. government should use the Brothers as partners in the dialogue with the Muslim world?

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2006/04/th...ood_and_isl.php

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To He11 with that sh|t! :ranting:

It's Europe they're after. Europe sucks anyway.

With the stronger Christian base we have in the USA do you think they could make the same inroads here?

Who says you need Xtians to thwart wahabbist/salafist Islam? Do you think the non-religious Europeans are just going to roll over and convert?

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Not religion per se...just Fundamentalism and the belief in absolutes (no one else is allowed to believe differently)...it's sort of reactionary to Relativism.

On this one, I beg to differ. Organised religion is stuffed with dangerous dogma and leaders who are far more interested in power and money than creed. I know I am making a sweeping generalisation, but this is my view.

Faith, belief in a higher power, whatever you want to call it, carry on.

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Not religion per se...just Fundamentalism and the belief in absolutes (no one else is allowed to believe differently)...it's sort of reactionary to Relativism.

On this one, I beg to differ. Organised religion is stuffed with dangerous dogma and leaders who are far more interested in power and money than creed. I know I am making a sweeping generalisation, but this is my view.

Faith, belief in a higher power, whatever you want to call it, carry on.

Anyone who believes that there is only one way to salvation, nirvana, heaven, whatever, is dangerous. So yes, dogmatism is a threat, but dogma in of itself isn't necessarily dangerous. For example, believing the murder is wrong could be considered a moral truth, but even with such an obvious truth, there are circumstances when it is the lesser of two evils.

 

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