Denied today, worst day of my life

[zakura02 0]

So the big lesson learned here is answer NO to any questions about drug use.. or maybe even psych or mental problems for it is also one of the reasons for visa ineligibility being danger to society as they say.. sometimes white lies aren't bad at all!

I think the biggest lesson here is to not do drugs and that you can be held accountable for your actions.

everybody knows already that its bad to do drugs, but if someone had used it just like in this case jen and she has her reasons, acceptable enough or not, it is not worth disclosing it and have all your american dreams fall apart, we are all on the same boat here and we know how hard it is being apart from our loved ones and we should do whatever it takes, even a little white lie just to make our dreams a reality..

[john_and_marlene 162]

So the big lesson learned here is answer NO to any questions about drug use.. or maybe even psych or mental problems for it is also one of the reasons for visa ineligibility being danger to society as they say.. sometimes white lies aren't bad at all!

I think the biggest lesson here is to not do drugs and that you can be held accountable for your actions.

everybody knows already that its bad to do drugs, but if someone had used it just like in this case jen and she has her reasons, acceptable enough or not, it is not worth disclosing it and have all your american dreams fall apart, we are all on the same boat here and we know how hard it is being apart from our loved ones and we should do whatever it takes, even a little white lie just to make our dreams a reality..

According to the TOS for this site:

you will not: ... Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.

Recommending that anyone lie to obtain the visa violates this term of service.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

This is your brain on drugs

You are so crazy... Hehehehe!!!

[sunandmoon 450]

this is one of those decisions in your life that only you can make...

[Logres 0]

everybody knows already that its bad to do drugs, but if someone had used it just like in this case jen and she has her reasons, acceptable enough or not, it is not worth disclosing it and have all your american dreams fall apart, we are all on the same boat here and we know how hard it is being apart from our loved ones and we should do whatever it takes, even a little white lie just to make our dreams a reality..

It's not just 'bad', it is also 'illegal'. Her reasons aren't really what's in question here.

I'm glad that the OP's fiancée has a better concept of honesty than you seem to.

[*JG* 2]

m just curious. what should have she told the doctor on her medical? is it better if she didnt admit that she used drugs before?

if she didnt admit it, would they not see it on her blood?

as what ive heard from the people i knew...they didnt admit their previous drugs experience specially when dealing with USEMbassy.

Trace of drugs depends on the degree of usage..though mostly i heard that after 2 years it can't be traced already..

2 years???????? Don't believe everything you hear.

[Sprailenes 47]

Wow thats really sad and I hope you find a solution to this soon.

I understand she was just trying to be honest, and in most cases honesty is the best policy, but in this case it's not. Even on job applications, one should answer no to drug usage. Unless you are using at the moment or an addict, then its really no ones business.

[john_and_marlene 162]

Wow thats really sad and I hope you find a solution to this soon.

I understand she was just trying to be honest, and in most cases honesty is the best policy, but in this case it's not. Even on job applications, one should answer no to drug usage. Unless you are using at the moment or an addict, then its really no ones business.

According to the TOS for this site:

you will not: ... Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.

Recommending that anyone lie to obtain the visa violates this term of service.

[Sprailenes 47]

Oh well I didnt mean it to sound the way you put it out. But I have read posts before mine that have people sayiing: "Just say no on your questionnaire"

Sorry.

[john_and_marlene 162]

Oh well I didnt mean it to sound the way you put it out. But I have read posts before mine that have people sayiing: "Just say no on your questionnaire"

Sorry.

... and they too were in violation of the TOS

[Sprailenes 47]

Oh well we can't all be perfect I guess.

Didn't mean to violate the TOS...was just stating how honesty sometimes can get people nowhere.

Edited September 5, 2007 by Sprailenes

[BJZags 17]

According to the TOS for this site:

you will not: ... Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.term of service.

I'm not sure "just saying NO" rises to the level of "condoning or instruction . . . others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities. . . " Especially in the context of this entire thead.

[john_and_marlene 162]

According to the TOS for this site:

you will not: ... Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.term of service.

I'm not sure "just saying NO" rises to the level of "condoning or instruction . . . others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities. . . " Especially in the context of this entire thead.

What do you consider suggesting material misrepresentation to rise to the level of?

[rebeccajo 14]

According to the TOS for this site:

you will not: ... Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.term of service.

I'm not sure "just saying NO" rises to the level of "condoning or instruction . . . others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities. . . " Especially in the context of this entire thead.

How else would you interpret what has become the content of this thread?

[john_and_marlene 162]

According to the TOS for this site:

you will not: ... Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.term of service.

I'm not sure "just saying NO" rises to the level of "condoning or instruction . . . others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities. . . " Especially in the context of this entire thead.

How else would you interpret what has become the content of this thread?

Exactly! Some have described it as a "white lie". I would consider a simple misrepresentation something close to a "white lie"--where the truth is not told, but the benefit would have been granted even had the truth been known. Material Misrepresentation is a severe matter. In the case of material misrepresentation, the benefit or service would not have been granted had the truth been known. There are severe penalties associated with it--even to the extent of revoking citizenship if it can be shown that there was any material misrepresentation at any point leading to that citizenship.